rt1092 Posted September 6, 2018 #251 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 point inside cabin.2 points window cabin. 3 points balcony cabin. 4 points JS. 5 points GS and above. This would be a fair way to judge both loyalty and cash spent on cabins. That would be interesting because I always get a balcony cheaper than an OV and usually cheaper or equal to an inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted September 6, 2018 #252 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Correct but someone had anticipated them changing the signage from DL to CL and CL to SL. That's not how it works. If a ship is going to change from having a Concierge Lounge to having a Suite Lounge, there is still a Diamond Lounge. The Concierge Lounge just goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rt1092 Posted September 6, 2018 #253 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Would be nice to find the DL on Harmony not crowded, but not holding my breath...would have to be called "blue girl". ;):eek: Try cruising the big ships out of Ft Lauderdale in the summer. This July there were only 5 pinnacles, 18 D+ and 60 D's. There was never more than 20 people in the diamond lounge at any time and usually only 8 or 9. This was our first cruise as pinnacles and we were in the top 3 cruisers on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 6, 2018 #254 Share Posted September 6, 2018 That's not how it works. If a ship is going to change from having a Concierge Lounge to having a Suite Lounge, there is still a Diamond Lounge. The Concierge Lounge just goes away. For now. [emoji6] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #255 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I think they would also increase the points required to gain status levels. Typically, a GS seems to be 2/3 more then a balcony. So maybe a full Suite higher than 5? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Possibly 6 points for GS.Current D,D+, Pinnacle members keep status but points to increase status to next level and for new members to reach these status would have to be reassessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodgem Posted September 6, 2018 #256 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 point inside cabin.2 points window cabin. 3 points balcony cabin. 4 points JS. 5 points GS and above. This would be a fair way to judge both loyalty and cash spent on cabins. Does the accessible JS cost more?It doesn't over here. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk No accessible JS do not cost more than a normal JS but passengers confined to a wheelchair, sailing out of Southampton cannot have a GS or above. Thus no way to earn the 5 points. Therefore as there are only 2 accessible JS maybe they should have the same points as GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #257 Share Posted September 6, 2018 No accessible JS do not cost more than a normal JS but passengers confined to a wheelchair, sailing out of Southampton cannot have a GS or above. Thus no way to earn the 5 points. Therefore as there are only 2 accessible JS maybe they should have the same points as GSSounds reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HicksRA Posted September 6, 2018 #258 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Maybe off topic, but I personally am glad they’re changing from CL to SL for suite guests effectively eliminating D+’s from the lounge. On A recent cruise, the CL was totally commandeered and interrupted by a group of about a dozen buddy buddy D+’s nightly. While most suite guests were trying to enjoy a calm evening, all was disrupted by a bunch of Jameson swilling loudmouths cackling the whole period. I realize this isn’t always the case but pax paying suite fares should be afforded a little more exclusivity. Not trying to be snobbish, Just my opinion. Yours may differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rt1092 Posted September 6, 2018 #259 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Maybe off topic, but I personally am glad they’re changing from CL to SL for suite guests effectively eliminating D+’s from the lounge. On my last cruise on the Vision, the CL was totally commandeered and interrupted by a group of about a dozen buddy buddy D+’s nightly. While most suite guests were trying to enjoy a calm evening, all was disrupted by a bunch of Jameson swilling loudmouths cackling the whole period. I realize this isn’t always the case but pax paying suite fares should be afforded a little more exclusivity. Not trying to be snobbish, Just my opinion. Yours may differ. I wouldn't be to happy it might be sooner than you think that a dozen or more buddy buddy pinnacles drinking Jameson, are there to join you in the SL. Royal seems to be making 15 to 20 pinnacles a month fleetwide. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 6, 2018 #260 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Maybe off topic, but I personally am glad they’re changing from CL to SL for suite guests effectively eliminating D+’s from the lounge. On my last cruise on the Vision, the CL was totally commandeered and interrupted by a group of about a dozen buddy buddy D+’s nightly. While most suite guests were trying to enjoy a calm evening, all was disrupted by a bunch of Jameson swilling loudmouths cackling the whole period. I realize this isn’t always the case but pax paying suite fares should be afforded a little more exclusivity. Not trying to be snobbish, Just my opinion. Yours may differ. Have witnessed same types of behavior as a Suite Guest in CL. Worst case was Enchantment and somewhat on Serenade. It was D+ I witnessed as well in the loud Department. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #261 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Have witnessed same types of behavior as a Suite Guest in CL. Worst case was Enchantment and somewhat on Serenade. It was D+ I witnessed as well in the loud Department. Sent from my iPhone using Forums There is no place for bad behaviour anywhere.I have read posts on here of unruly Suite guests and their children in the CL. Personally I prefer the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eel Posted September 6, 2018 #262 Share Posted September 6, 2018 You do not think the fact that most high tier members seem not to spend too many dollars onboard is a concern to Royal? That would be a concern if they think high tier members are squeezing out high paying guests. But I suspect the loyalty program helps them fill the ships. If it ever was to the point that demand was so great that they didn't need brand loyal frequent cruisers, then I guess your point is well taken. I don't think we are there yet! And as the inventory of cabins continues to expand, I don't know if we will ever get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #263 Share Posted September 6, 2018 That would be a concern if they think high tier members are squeezing out high paying guests. But I suspect the loyalty program helps them fill the ships. If it ever was to the point that demand was so great that they didn't need brand loyal frequent cruisers, then I guess your point is well taken. I don't think we are there yet! And as the inventory of cabins continues to expand, I don't know if we will ever get there.With all the new ships there are an ever increasing number of cabins to fill so a guaranteed loyalty following is good to have and vital to keep on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHADEN Posted September 6, 2018 #264 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Royal Caribbean is a business, not Santa Claus, and I do not think anything that Royal Caribbean provides is "free". The cost of loyalty perks is just a small part of the cost of all the cruises one sails on in order to earn them. While C&A points are not fungible like some airline miles are, they do have a real cost to Royal for the complimentary drinks that are provided to people with 80 points or more and for the more expensive meals in Coastal Kitchen that are provided in certain ships for people with 700 points or more. OF COURSE there is a cost to RCI:rolleyes: duh... I was pointing out that the Loyalty Perks are free to the passenger, whereas the Suite Perks are paid for (by the higher price of the Suite) by the passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 6, 2018 #265 Share Posted September 6, 2018 No accessible JS do not cost more than a normal JS but passengers confined to a wheelchair, sailing out of Southampton cannot have a GS or above. Thus no way to earn the 5 points. Therefore as there are only 2 accessible JS maybe they should have the same points as GSExtremely flawed logic, sorry Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #266 Share Posted September 6, 2018 OF COURSE there is a cost to RCI:rolleyes: duh... I was pointing out that the Loyalty Perks are free to the passenger, whereas the Suite Perks are paid for (by the higher price of the Suite) by the passenger. You have to book and pay for the cruise before you can take advantage of the loyalty perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 6, 2018 #267 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Sounds reasonable to me.No it doesn't [emoji848] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodgem Posted September 6, 2018 #268 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Extremely flawed logic, sorry Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #269 Share Posted September 6, 2018 No it doesn't [emoji848] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk If it is only 2 JS accessible cabins and they aren't allowed to book GS a little discretion could be allowed.Several years ago on Brilliance we took Pauline's mam and her mams wheelchair with us in a GS but she didn't need accessibility facilities just Pauline's help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted September 6, 2018 #270 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Try cruising the big ships out of Ft Lauderdale in the summer. This July there were only 5 pinnacles, 18 D+ and 60 D's. There was never more than 20 people in the diamond lounge at any time and usually only 8 or 9. This was our first cruise as pinnacles and we were in the top 3 cruisers on the ship. Times change though there is exceptions. Do lot of longer cruises on Radiance Class each yr and almost always open the overflow for DL. Wasn't long ago Diamond's were peak, no such thing as Diamond Plus or Pinnacle. Then at most would have 6-8 of us Diamonds, this on the New ships during peak sailings. Could use the CL then, was first off the ship. And my favorite, meeting for drinks with Capt, Doctor, Chief Eng, Hotel Head and Cruise Director. Was almost a one-on-one gathering then. 30yrs ago very few cruised, too expensive when I started, $3800 for Deck 2 tiny Port Hole cabin. No families, no kids on board. Royal was older crowd, Carnival a younger adult cruise line . So those that did cruise were called the Newlywed's and Nearly Dead. Was at one end, just Married then, now am closer to other end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #271 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Times change though there is exceptions. Do lot of longer cruises on Radiance Class each yr and almost always open the overflow for DL. Wasn't long ago Diamond's were peak, no such thing as Diamond Plus or Pinnacle. Then at most would have 6-8 of us Diamonds, this on the New ships during peak sailings. Could use the CL then, was first off the ship. And my favorite, meeting for drinks with Capt, Doctor, Chief Eng, Hotel Head and Cruise Director. Was almost a one-on-one gathering then. 30yrs ago very few cruised, too expensive when I started, $3800 for Deck 2 tiny Port Hole cabin. No families, no kids on board. Royal was older crowd, Carnival a younger adult cruise line . So those that did cruise were called the Newlywed's and Nearly Dead. Was at one end, just Married then, now am closer to other end...Only 15 years cruising for us but have seen lots of changes in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 6, 2018 #272 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Why?Because the accessible JS and the std JS cost the same, thus not deserving any additional credit. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 6, 2018 #273 Share Posted September 6, 2018 If it is only 2 JS accessible cabins and they aren't allowed to book GS a little discretion could be allowed.Several years ago on Brilliance we took Pauline's mam and her mams wheelchair with us in a GS but she didn't need accessibility facilities just Pauline's help. That makes no sense whatsoever Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted September 6, 2018 #274 Share Posted September 6, 2018 That makes no sense whatsoever Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Where's Bella?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLACRUISER99 Posted September 6, 2018 #275 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I am not worrying about any C&A changes. RCI had always been fair and I'm sure they recognize they are where they are today because their loyalty program is the best in the business. And they do the best they can to improve it. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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