Royal vs. NCL: Head to Head

[FitchburgWIFamily]

(posting here and on the NCL board)

 

About us:

 

My husband, myself and my 18 yo son and 16 yo daughter were cruising with two other families of 4 (their children are all younger).  This is my 9^th cruise, my husband’s 5^th and my children’s 4^th.   Almost all of our cruising experience has been on NCL, this was our first time on Royal Caribbean.  One of the families we traveled with was on their 3^rd cruise (previously on Disney and Carnival) and the other family was on their first cruise. 

 

We did a 5 day cruise out of Fort Lauderdale on the Majesty of the Seas with stops at Key West and Cuba.

 

Below I try to give a head to head comparison based on my experiences between the two lines.  Assume any typos are signs of creativity and any grammatical errors are indicative of regional dialect.

 

Embarkation:

 

Pretty even, but I’ll give a slight edge to Norwegian for the following reasons:

NCL has better options for boarding day lunch.   The buffet was the only option on Majesty and it was hard to find a table for 4 let alone a place where more than 4 of us could eat.  It is just not relaxing for me to fight for my food on the first day of my cruise.

And, NCL staff does a better job of greeting you on board.  Cruise Directors staff are dancing and welcoming you as you walk on board a Norwegian ship.  The only people who were in the lobby when we got on the Majesty were the people at the tables trying to sell you stuff (spa, drink packages, etc.)  No one said “Welcome Aboard” on Majesty.

 

Ship

 

Pool side:

 

I’d give the advantage to Royal on the Pool Deck experience:  we were always able to find a few chairs, the music was played at a tolerable volume and the two bars at either end of the pool were able to keep up.  I miss Norwegian’s pool side food though.   Only pool side food we found on Majesty was the Soft Serve machine which was well (very well) used by the kids in our group.

 

Our stash of bags poolside on embarkation day:  we look like we are there for a month and this is just the carry on stuff.

 

 

Common Spaces:

 

I’d give the advantage to Royal again: .Schooners, Bolero and Spectrum when not used for events were all excellent places to meet up, talk, play a card game, and enjoy a view.    There was never a time we could not find a place to meet and hang out together.  There was also another bar all the way up and forward, but the few times we tried it, it was being used for private events, and it was too far out of the way to bother with again.

 

NCL common spaces are a little harder to come by: the jewel class ships have the Spinnaker (equivalent to Spectrum), but on the Dawn class ships, that space has been repurposed for suites.  One the newest big NCL ships, they have the wonderful waterfront, but it is hard to reliably find a place for a large group to get together as there is a lot of people trying to use the same space.

 

Entertainment:

 

We caught two of the shows by the production cast on Royal, and here I have to give the points to Norwegian:  the production casts are larger and the shows have more variety on NCL.  On Majesty, there was a disco themed show and a not disco themed show.   But the shows were very very similar. 

 Other entertainment around the ship:  here I think I might give points to Royal…the quality of the entertainment was very similar, but the volume was better.   NCL seems to amp everything up a little too much, so it is hard to talk over.

 

Turns out we can lose at trivia just as well on Royal as we do on Norwegian.  If they would only score me on the correct answers I crossed out.   Other than Trivia, we did not partake in too many other activities.  

 

Dining:

 

I have to give it to Norwegian on the dining.   On Royal, I had braised ribs, a pork shank, and a lamb something all in the main dining room and all were very very good.  , I give the point to Norwegian for convenience and variety.  On NCL, the main dining menu has 5 or 6 entrees that are the same each night and 5 or 6 that alternate, for a total of 10 or 12.  On Majesty, there were 6 entrees to choose from.  

 

Also, our table was in the back of the dining room, and there were no restrooms in the main dining room.   I would have to walk the length of the dining room and up a deck to use the bathroom if I needed to use it during the course of our dinner. 

 

But the biggest difference between the two is on convenience, on Norwegian, on every ship I have been on, there are at least 4 different sit down restaurants available at no extra charge every night.  Two of them have the same menu, the other two (one Asian, on pub style food) are different.   All of them will seat me when I am ready at any time.  

We only dined in the main dining room 3 of the 5 nights, and on two of those nights there was parade of staff dance number.  Kind of fun.   Kind of awkward if you were ready to leave the dining room and you needed to wait for the aisles to free up.

 

We used the main dining room on Majesty for breakfast one day:  this was better than the breakfast on NCL because the amply supplied buffet (similar the suite breakfast on NCL).  

And I used the main dining room on Majesty one day for lunch:  we were there when it opened, at 11:30.  It was 1:10 before they brought me my dessert.   Everyone around me was served their dessert before I was.  I think the issue was the woman (a stranger) that was seated at my table with me got the salad bar (which was an excellent salad bar) for her entire meal.   She didn’t want dessert.   I think the waiter was waiting for her to be done before he brought me my dessert, even though I had finished my (very good) sandwich 30 minutes earlier.

 

My two teens:  mischief and surly:

 

 

 

 

Teens:

 

My 16 year old went to the teen club, met some friends, and practically deserted us for the rest of the cruise.  My 18 year old used the sports court a lot and met up with some friends there, but the one activity we could find on the dailies for 18-21 year olds never really materialized.  It was schedule for the sport court, but no one showed up.   My 16 year old would rate this cruise as one of her bests, because she had so much fun with her friends, and they could always find a hot tub that didn’t have a bunch of  50-year-olds in it already.  Her posse of 16-year-olds made good use of Sorento’s pizza and sang Karoke in Spectrum.  My 18-year-old would not rate this very high:  he likes the night scene, and this ship had a much older demographic at the night venues then he is used to.   He did enjoy watching the basketball tournament on the huge screen poolside and the sports offered on smaller screens in other venues. It was the first cruise ever where my daughter had more fun than her older brother.  Unlike NCL, we did not have to sign my daughter up for teen club…she just went on her own.

So for teens, it is a tie between NCL and Royal based on my family’s experience.

 

 

Bars and drink package:  (or: Everything tastes better out of a pineapple)

 

I will hands down give the points to Royal on this:  including water bottles probably costs them pennies but was a huge advantage over Norwegian.  The drink cups for sodas also came in handy.   I could also get cans of soda from some bars.   Oh, and Royal is Coke, Norwegian in Pepsi, so I was happy and husband was sad.   But, one thing we found weird, the majority of times, even though we had the drink package, they still made us sign for each drink.  I think this is an attempt to get an additional tip on top of the tips we paid on the beverage package, but we tip in cash ($1/drink) and the paper was just an inconvenience.  

 

I purchased the package from Royal for a total (with whatever they add to the listed price) of 306.80 per person for my husband and myself.   This is for a 5 day cruise.  We drank, between us, approximately 75 drinks.  Even if they were all priced as the cocktail of the day price (which most of them were higher) I came out $100.00 ahead.  I can come out ahead on NCL’s drink package when it is bundled as “free” with the cabin fare, but I cannot drink enough to make it worth paying for outright.

 

NCL makes a better mudslide: only one mudslide I had on Royal had the chocolate syrup mud, whereas the Norwegian bar tenders are artisans with the syrup.   More than once on Royal we had cases of wait staff bringing us the wrong drink…but they were always good about bringing us the correct one.

 

On Majesty, we had one excellent bar waiter (Oka in Schooners) who memorized us and our drink order right away.  Other than Oka though, the staff didn’t really seem to remember us from day to day.   On all our NCL sailings, there are multiple bar tenders and wait staff who greet us by name, remember our order, etc.

 

We purchased a pineapple drink (about 10.00 with the beverage package) because everything tastes better in a pineapple.  Once you buy the pineapple you can refill with whatever you want for free on the beverage package.   Because everything (except a mudslike) tastes better in a pineapple.

 

 

 

Cabin:

 

This is a tough one, because Majesty is an old ship, and it is not fair to compare her to a newer ship.   So I can’t say Royal is worse than NCL because our Cabin was small.   The bathroom was the smallest bathroom I have ever had on a ship, and Royal has not made minor modifications that would make it better.  They could easily have added more shelves for storage, racks for the hand towels and wash clothes, and get rid of the inset waste basket in the counter that just takes up counter space.

 

However…our cabin was not set up the way we had asked for when we boarded and there was food in it from the previous sailing.  Our friends cabins shower temperature did not adjust.  While we had nice new mattresses, the third family we were sharing with did not and the beds were extremely uncomfortable.  So, based on all of that, I have to give an edge to Norwegian on cabins.

Staff:

 

I have to give the point to NCL here, too.   On Majesty, Tanya the Cruise director and her staff were excellent.   And with the exception of our steward on the first day, all of the staff were pretty good on Majesty.   So it is not that there is anything wrong with Royal.  It is just that they were not as friendly as the staff on NCL.  Stewards did not great us as we walked down the hall.   Senior Staff (Bar Manager, Hotel Manager, etc.) were not “present” in their venues dropping off their cards and asking how things were going. 

 

The dining staff in the main dining room on Royal, because you have the assigned table are more friendly and personable than they are on NCL, but if you eat breakfast or lunch and aren’t at your table, you don’t get that “happy to serve you” vibe.

 

Issue handling:  (Cracker Gate)

 

Our cabin was “ready” at 1:00.   We had an ocean view stateroom on deck 4.  We had asked for the beds to be split apart, as we knew we needed both berths down.   When we went down to see our room, the beds were combined as one.  I found our steward, introduced ourselves, asked him to split them and we headed out to the buffet to catch a bite to eat before muster.

When we came back after muster, our luggage had arrived, and now there were 4 suitcases in our teeny tiny room.  I needed to move some stuff out of the closet to make room for our things (the life jackets need to be stowed under a bed and the two bunk ladders took up the space for hanging items.  I also couldn’t stow our suitcases under the bed until the beds were in the correct position.  But for some reason, the steward had not separated the lower beds into two twins yet.  <sigh>

 

I called and asked for our steward, and after about a half hour, he came.  I again asked for the beds to be split.   You would have to see how the room is configured, but when you split the two twin beds, you need to stagger them so they both will go against the wall, as there is a built in nightstand at the end one wall for when the beds are combined as one.  He did split the beds, but did not stagger them. 

 

Then, he started to make up the upper beds, which I did not need made up.  I told him that we didn’t need those made up yet, but he just agreed with me and kept doing it.  So we waited in the hall outside our room for close to a ½ hour while he did our turn down at about 5:00 in the afternoon.   When he was done, and we went in, I had to have my husband move the one bed against the wall so we had a place wider than 10 inches to walk between the two beds.

We had also pointed out to him that there was food in our room left from a previous sailing:  one was a package of opened crackers on top of a light fixture above one of the upper bunks (that one I can see being missed) the other was a another package of crackers and crumbs on the window ledge.  Which means that during switch over, no one opened the drapes or wiped down the surface that is the shelf under the window.

 

Our steward did throw away the crackers but left the pile of crumbs on the window ledge!!!!!!!!

I was just done with our useless steward, I wanted to get unpacked and on with my day, so I just took a picture and cleaned off the surface myself.  I think part of the issue here was that his English was not as good as I am used to in customer-facing staff..that might explain the confusion with the beds.  But there is no excuse for leaving food in a room from a previous sailing.

 

The next morning, I waited in line to talk to Guest Services to ask to talk to someone about our less than stellar steward.  Guest Services apologized sincerely, and told me a supervisor would meet me in my room to discuss.  My room is very close to guest services, and my husband and son were still in my room.  I got there maybe 60 seconds after leaving guest services.   I waited for about 45 minutes, but no one came to my room.

 

I went back out, got in line at Guest Services again, and he was shocked no one had come.   He called the supervisor again, and she said she had gone to our room but no one was there.   Either she did that in the 10 minutes it took me to get my turn at Guest Services again (meaning she left me waiting 35 minutes before she came to see me) or she lied.  

Anyway, she did finally come after my second trip to Guest Services, apologized again, and assigned us a new steward.  This steward did clean our room (it looked much better when he was done, so I am not sure the first steward even vacuumed).  And she volunteered to take a little useless glass table out of the room to give us more room.

The next night, between 10:30 pm and 11:00 pm we got a call.  Both my husband and I were already in bed, but my husband got up and answered the phone.  There was a delivery of something from housekeeping did we want it now?  Em…no?   The next day, when we got back on the boat from Havana, there was a bottle of champagne on ice and a plate of chocolate covered strawberries, so I assume that was from housekeeping as an apology.

 

So,  I lost almost 2 hours to this debacle.   My husband and I had to do work that we never should have had to do.   I did get an apology and a treat.   For now, I’ll rate it a neutral and assume it was an aberration.  If I ever had a similar issue on a Royal ship, it would be my last Royal ship ever.

 

Shore visits:

 

NCL edges out Royal again.   Almost everything is exactly the same, but NCL has two things that tip it in their favor:   the towel swap at the gangway:  I love being able to drop off my wet towels and not worry about them again.  And NCL does a better job of greeting you back on board:  whether it is with senior officers handing out glasses of cold water, staff doing a dance off to greet you back on board, or the lovely eucalyptus-scented hand clothes, NCL makes you feel special getting back on board.

 

However, we bought rum on both Key West and on Cuba, and had it in our bags that we scanned.   Royal never asked us to go check it in.   I asked at Key West if I should, and they said I should…but if I hadn’t asked that rum would have been in my room doing whatever it is smuggled rum does on board.   One thing that is different is that on NCL, when you check purchased alcohol in at the gangway, they deliver it to your room the last night, so you can put it in your checked bags.  On Royal, when you check alcohol in, you pick it up after 6:30 am on disembarkation day.   A little less convenient…so when we brought 3 bottles of Rum on board in Cuba, we didn’t even mention it and they let us take them right to our cabin.

 

Disembarkation:

 

Royal gets the point here.  They assigned us a departure time (ours was between 9:30 and 9:50 I think) if you want to have your luggage taken off (we did not, based on the late departure) or let you walk off based on deck.   Lots of people paid no attention to the “by deck” but the line moved pretty quickly once it moved, and we were able to walk from our state room, into line, around the line and off the boat in about 10 minutes at about 8:20 in the morning.  I don’t know what NCL does wrong here, but it is almost always a cluster of a long nonmoving line to get off the boat.

 

In total:

Royal and NCL offer very similar products.  NCL edges out Royal on the people side and on the convenience side, Royal edges out NCL in a couple of categories.  Sailing on Royal did not convince me to abandon NCL.   But it did convince me I could sail on Royal (on a newer ship with bigger bathrooms) again.

 

Edited April 3, 2019 by FitchburgWIFamily
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[blueridgemama]

Thank you for your review. I have never sailed on a Norwegian ship and only once on Royal Caribbean so it was interesting to read your comparisons. Which is your favorite Norwegian ship? Maybe next Royal Caribbean Cruise try their newest and biggest, Symphony.

[Crazy planning mom]

Thank you for your detailed review.

That's unfortunate that you had a negative experience with your steward. I agree with the other poster who suggested you try another newer RCL ship.  The Majesty is not a typical RC ship.   Most RCL ships have multiple dining options.  In addition on my last RCL cruise on the Harmony last year, we were greeted with cold water and towels upon return from excursions.

[lazydayz]

Thanks for your review and comparisons. We haven’t sailed Norwegian yet but some of your comparisons make me think I should give them a try. Unfortunately the people I know who have sailed Norwegian have complained about the food and that has caused me to hesitate.. 

[tinkr2]

Thanks for the review. You really need to try any newer ship. All your points will go to RCCL. Though I have enjoyed NCL also.

[A2Mich]

Geez....does ANYTHING make you happy?  😂. Just kidding.  I also enjoyed reading your head to head comparison.  Most of our meager experience has been on Carnival (but even that was quite a number of years ago, so my opinions of Carnivak are based on old experiences).  We have also considered Norwegian, and even Carnival for a future cruise.  We had a great time on Freedom, and wanted to try an Oasis class, so we are booked on Harmony for next year.  The largest Carnival ship I have been on was Carnival Legend, when  is still considerably smaller than all of their newer ships.  Didn’t care for that particular ship, but then again, I was never a fan of the Joe Farcus designs.  Their newer decor looks more subdued and appears to have a bit more tropical flair.  Definitely open to trying the again, as the upcoming Mardi Gras looks to be intriguing. 

[framboesa]

Majesty was my first Royal Caribbean cruise ship ...+20 years ago. Today we can't compare it to any of other Royal Caribbean ships where we have been. We sailed NCL Epic, the only one that we sailed with NCL...it was nice but we can't compare for instance with Anthem of the seas or Allure... It´s a little bit "unfair" to compare one cruise line choosing the oldest ship, or one of the oldest to try it...(like you pointed, actually)   My parents sailed aboard NCL Star and said that the cruise was great but it was a "poor ship"...Why? Because they are used to the mega ships, that´s why ;) You spoke about things that are diferente between RC and NCL that actually are not different on the majority of RC ships, for instance, there are lots (lots!) of places to eat besides Windjammer and main dinning room in the new ships (i could remember 7, for no charge , in my last cruise)...but not in Majesty of the Seas. 

Saying that, thank you for your review ;)

Edited April 4, 2019 by framboesa

[framboesa]

7 hours ago, A2Mich said:

 The largest Carnival ship I have been on was Carnival Legend, when  is still considerably smaller than all of their newer ships.  Didn’t care for that particular ship, but then again, I was never a fan of the Joe Farcus designs.  Their newer decor looks more subdued and appears to have a bit more tropical flair.  Definitely open to trying the again, as the upcoming Mardi Gras looks to be intriguing. 

I keep reading bad reviews from people who sailed with carnival 10 years ago, with the old ships...We gave it a try to carnival sailing aboard C. Breeze and is my favorite cruise ship since then (and I have been in really nice cruise ships :D ). Today, if we compare the newest ships there are more similar than different things. :D

[cruisegirl1976]

Thanks for the review and I think like the other people have said.. try one of the newer bigger RCL ships.. I have been on the Majesty and loved it.. and I have also sailed on a few NCL ships, and I think it comes down to your overall preferences, I personally love RCL over NCL... the drinks and the food for me were better. But what really got me hooked was sailing on the Oasis .. love that ship :)

[dreadpirate3]

Please try RCCL again, either on the Navigator class or the Freedom class. You sailed the smallest and oldest ship in the fleet.

 

I've sailed all three in the Sovereign class, plus the Adventure, Enchantment, and Freedom. I think you would like those ships better, and they have more dining options and venues for your family.

[sparks1093]

Thanks for the thoughts. We're leaving in a couple of days for our first experience with Royal.

[The Fun Researcher]

I think you tried to be completely fair with your comparisons.

 

Too bad you weren't able to compare "apples to apples", such as a newer NCL ship to a newer RCCL ship.  It makes it tough to really compare one cruise line to another when you take that into consideration.

 

The majesty just doesn't offer what the new RCCL ships do, or even their ships that are 15 to 20 years old like the Voyager class.  RCCL is sinking a ton of $$$ into their Voyager and Freedom classes.  I highly recommend trying one of their "Amped" ships if you give Royal another go.  ...or the Oasis or Quantum class for that matter.  :)

 

Dan

Edited April 4, 2019 by The Fun Researcher

[sandebeach]

Thanks for the review, we have sailed both Royal and NCL. To be fair, I would compare Majesty to an older NCL ship like the Sky. I have sailed Oasis-class ships and NCL Bliss, and in comparison, they all have their good and not-so-good points. 

[Alter Ego]

I had to Google, so my comments are based on that.

 

NCL Jewel class of ships came out in 2011.

Majesty of the Seas first set sale in 1992.

 

I do think you tried to be fair (and a dirty cabin shouldn’t be tolerated at any time), but it’s simply not a fair comparison.  Need to compare a larger ship (looks like Oasis came out same year as NCL Jewel) or take NCL’s ship to Cuba.

[ShillyShally]

I just wanted to agree, everything tastes better in a pineapple 🙂

 

Great review though - thank you!  I'm curious to try NCL and definitely think you should try a newer RCL ship, especially one that has been AMPed if not Symphony or Harmony.  I appreciated your insights!

[Sizzlechest]

As an ex-NCL cruiser, I find your assessment of NCL accurate. Haven't cruised on Royal yet, so I appreciate your insights.

[mizLORInj]

NCL Jewel class is older than from 2011; I went on my first NCL cruise in 2009 on NCL Gem,  which was third or fourth in the jewel class.   (Jade, Jewel, Pearl, Gem -- not 100% sure of order) 

 

I like both lines and would go on any of them again!  yes, there will be minor annoyances here and there, but overall, we've not had a bad cruise yet.   We love the larger ships like Allure and Anthem, but Explorer (I know, not all that small) was good too.   NCL Escape, Getaway, Breakaway, Gem, Jewel, etc. all good cruises too.   

 

happy cruising!

[lovescats5]

1. You compared apples to oranges.  You need to compare like ships before you can make an informed decision on which ship is better than the other.  Also, on any given day or cruise you can have the best one ever or the worst one ever.  We tried Oasis and then tried Anthem and will probably only go back to Oasis class if the price were really good.  We love Anthem and the Quantum class.  Try one of those ships.
2.  

[FitchburgWIFamily]

Hey everyone, thank you for your comments and feedback.   I do think we will try Royal again...I just find it interesting everyone is bashing the ship, when head to head, most of the ship categories went to Royal like the Pool deck and Common spaces.

 

For those of you who have sailed on larger newer RC ships, how many complimentary sit down dinner options are there?   I am just not a  fan of the buffet and like that on the NCL ships I have been on (Jewel Class, Dawn Class, Escape) there have been multiple options for a sit down meal.   

 

On Majesty, the only sit down option we had was the main dining room.   On the newer larger ships, what are the dining options for the buffet averse crowd?

[miamimere]

Interesting review!  We went on the NCL Getaway in 2015...It was brand new and we had just got off the Allure the year before.  It was my least favorite experience of any cruise we have done, including several Carnival ships.  

 

I missed not having a promenade and the pool deck area was completely insane on sea days, not a chair to be found.  We sailed right when they started including the free drink package and the lines were insane at the bars.  

 

I did LOVE the illumination show on NCL (paid extra) and the waterfront restaurant area was super cool - loved being able to eat outside and all the specialty dining options!  And the deck parties at night in the adults area were about the most fun we have ever experienced - my kids still have glow sticks and talk about the glow party on the getaway.  I think we closed down the 80's and the 90's party.  Royal really lacks the late night dance parties that NCL and Carnival do really well.  

 

But, I remember thinking that the NCL room was the smallest we have ever experienced.  

 

Maybe I need to give it another try?  We went back to Royal and haven't looked back.  It's good to hear another opinion.  Thanks!

 

[Clarea]

5 minutes ago, FitchburgWIFamily said:

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On Majesty, the only sit down option we had was the main dining room.   On the newer larger ships, what are the dining options for the buffet averse crowd?

 

On Oasis class ships other than Allure, there is the Solarium Bistro which is a combo buffet/sit down venue.  Starters, sides, and desserts are buffet, and the entree is ordered off a menu.  A couple of the entrees are extra cost but most are no extra charge.

[er345]

On the newer ships the Solarium has a nice dinner at no extra charge.  While it is similar to a buffet in that you get your own food, everything is plated and nicer than a typical buffet.  

 

I appreciate the comparisons to NCL.  I do like the idea of making customers feel special and it sounds like NCL wins that one.  The little extras can make a difference in the whole experience. I’ve only sailed with RCI and have never been disappointed. But someday we may want a different experience.

[er345]

Thanks Bob, for mentioning the Solarium.  I thought you could also order off of a menu there.  We didn’t eat there for dinner this last cruise so I was going off of my memory from several years ago.  I know our friends that did eat dinner in the Solarium on Symphony really liked it.

[poncho1973]

From someone who has done both lines, there is no way I'd compare Majesty to any other ship in the Royal fleet other than Empress.

 

I can't say that Majesty would represent much of anything in the Royal fleet of 2019.  She's a lone wolf ship with nearly 30 year old bones.  The best possible news is that you sailed her just out of dry dock!  That's the best news.

 

Everything else considered?  She doesn't have much of anything compared to the other ships in the fleet.  Like I said, excluding Empress of the Seas, which is a tiny micro-beast all of her own.

 

Majesty in Norwegian terms is the Norwegian Spirit of the fleet.

[Clarea]

8 minutes ago, er345 said:

Thanks Bob, for mentioning the Solarium.  I thought you could also order off of a menu there.  We didn’t eat there for dinner this last cruise so I was going off of my memory from several years ago.  I know our friends that did eat dinner in the Solarium on Symphony really liked it.

 

I'm pretty sure that Quantum class ships have a similar Solarium food venue in the evening, but not 100% sure.