Accessible cabin availability (lack of) in the future kinda frustrating

[Joseph2017China]

16 hours ago, brillohead said:

I blame the number of people using scooters these days for the decrease in available accessible rooms. 

IMO, accessible rooms should be for those who actually need the features of the room -- the roll-in shower, the no-step bathroom/balcony, the safety rails in the bathroom, the space to maneuver around the room in a wheelchair, etc. 

People who can walk around in their room on their own and only need the scooter to walk for longer distances around the ship, etc., should be required to book a regular room.  There is room to park the scooter in the seating area (you can ask the room steward to remove the coffee table, if needed).  

IMO, you are basically clueless!  For starters, the HC room is designed to allow a normal sized scooter through a doorway and the hallway after the doorway.  Many rooms have bed configurations that make it impossible to get a scooter inside.  The only way your idea can work is if the cruise lines have a parking lot for scooters on each floor equipped plugs for charging and a rail to lock the scooter to.  That won't happen because that space will not be revenue generating!

[snowglobe]

16 hours ago, brillohead said:

I blame the number of people using scooters these days for the decrease in available accessible rooms. 

IMO, accessible rooms should be for those who actually need the features of the room -- the roll-in shower, the no-step bathroom/balcony, the safety rails in the bathroom, the space to maneuver around the room in a wheelchair, etc. 

People who can walk around in their room on their own and only need the scooter to walk for longer distances around the ship, etc., should be required to book a regular room.  There is room to park the scooter in the seating area (you can ask the room steward to remove the coffee table, if needed).  

 

I am a scooter user, and prone to falls.

It is NOT possible to park a scooter in the seating area that is usually on the other side of the bed form the cabin entrance, in most regular-sized cabins. There is simply not enough clearance to get the scooter around the bed, and out of the way.

I need my scooter parked (and charging) where I won’t risk injuring myself trying to get around it.

 

The only answer is for new cruise ships and refurbs to design & offer a new category of accessible cabins - ones that do not provide a roll-in shower and lowered sink, but still offers a raised toilet and lots of grab bars - and has a proper place to park & charge a mobility scooter.

[snowglobe]

16 hours ago,  brillohead said: 

 

3 minutes ago, Joseph2017China said:

IMO, you are basically clueless!

 

Amen!

[Ourusualbeach]

19 minutes ago, snowglobe said:

It is NOT possible to park a scooter in the seating area that is usually on the other side of the bed form the cabin entrance, in most regular-sized...

On all Freedom, Voyager and Radiance class ships the bed is closest to the balcony leaving the sitting area by the door.  On Oasis and Quantum class ships 50% of the balcony cabins have the sitting area by the door.

[ryano]

25 minutes ago, snowglobe said:

 

 

The only answer is for new cruise ships and refurbs to design & offer a new category of accessible cabins - ones that do not provide a roll-in shower and lowered sink, but still offers a raised toilet and lots of grab bars - and has a proper place to park & charge a mobility scooter.

 

Carnival does this.  Ambulatory accessible is what they are called. 

Edited August 22, 2019 by ryano

[reallyitsmema]

22 minutes ago, ryano said:

 

Ive been watching it like a hawk!  LOL!   😂

 

I get it, we usually cruise in either September or October too.  We haven't had a cruise shortened or lengthened but we did run into some really rough weather once when the remnants of a hurricane didn't turn the way it was predicted.  Made for 24 hours of rocking and rolling but some fun memories with my Mom.  My DH had to escort her anywhere she wanted to go because we were afraid she would fall.  We were on Anthem to Bermuda, so once they had decided we weren't headed to Canada, we were committed.  They can change your cruise between eastern and western if needed, as long as Port Canaveral is accessible.  

 

I hope it stays calm out there for you.  We aren't sailing until October 13th out of Boston.  Unless there is a late season storm, we should be good.  Headed to Bermuda again on Serenade this time, but if we end up in Canada, we can deal with it.  You will love Harmony, we just sailed her in May and we loved it.   There is a ramp over to the side of the flowrider if you want to go up there and see the beautiful view aft.  Mini Bites was a good place to get a made to order omelet for breakfast.  Nice to be outside instead of in the craziness of the WJ.  They give you a number and deliver it to your table.  Good afternoon nachos there too 😄 

[reallyitsmema]

42 minutes ago, snowglobe said:

The only answer is for new cruise ships and refurbs to design & offer a new category of accessible cabins - ones that do not provide a roll-in shower and lowered sink, but still offers a raised toilet and lots of grab bars - and has a proper place to park & charge a mobility scooter.

 

That is a good idea, they could easily have a dedicated parking space in the cabin with an outlet for charging.  Might require eliminating the sofa or replacing it with a chair instead.

[ryano]

4 hours ago, reallyitsmema said:

 

I get it, we usually cruise in either September or October too.  We haven't had a cruise shortened or lengthened but we did run into some really rough weather once when the remnants of a hurricane didn't turn the way it was predicted.  Made for 24 hours of rocking and rolling but some fun memories with my Mom.  My DH had to escort her anywhere she wanted to go because we were afraid she would fall.  We were on Anthem to Bermuda, so once they had decided we weren't headed to Canada, we were committed.  They can change your cruise between eastern and western if needed, as long as Port Canaveral is accessible.  

 

I hope it stays calm out there for you.  We aren't sailing until October 13th out of Boston.  Unless there is a late season storm, we should be good.  Headed to Bermuda again on Serenade this time, but if we end up in Canada, we can deal with it.  You will love Harmony, we just sailed her in May and we loved it.   There is a ramp over to the side of the flowrider if you want to go up there and see the beautiful view aft.  Mini Bites was a good place to get a made to order omelet for breakfast.  Nice to be outside instead of in the craziness of the WJ.  They give you a number and deliver it to your table.  Good afternoon nachos there too 😄 

 

Thank you so much for the info!  As long as I can just make it on the ship in 10 days, I dont care where go!  First Oasis class and first oceanview balcony.  Unlimited Dining Package too!  

[molsonschooner]

5 hours ago, ryano said:

 

Carnival does this.  Ambulatory accessible is what they are called. 

that sounds like a good idea

[nadinenurse1]

I would love it if the elevators could be figured out , that tends to be a problem, I close my wheelchair  In elevators scooters can’t do that

[GUT2407]

8 hours ago, nadinenurse1 said:

So as a wheelchair , manual not scooter,  user, you should see the looks I get  I am a RN w a back injury , I can walk short distances , like the length of a ship dinning room at the buffet, but that’s it, can not walk to my room from any venue on the ship, can not stand for long periods, can not not even stand in the shower, can not even bend over to wash my feet without falling over,   My wheelchair folds flat as all manual ones do, so I use it for all distances , for me a distance is anything longer than a 10 minute walk, lol , But,  if my injury goes into spasm, I can’t move at all, if really bad, become bed bound. I do get a handicapped room ,because if I do get bad, ie; in spasm, I will need wheelchair inthe cabin to get to the bathroom.  But to look at me in good days, I look  fine, and yes ...I get nasty looks all the time when my back is good and I can push the wheelchair for distances and take sitting breaks until I can walk again.  I would be very upset at those that use a scooter for  continence or a bigger room.  My life would be tons easier if I had not caught a falling patient 15 years ago.  Since I don’t look handicapped, people make assumptions.  I also , when in the wheelchair, get sat on, pushed, stepped on, yes people step on my feet, shoved, squished, you name it.  Sorry about the rant here. As a other poster said,  we have no idea what is going on with others. I am defiantly treated differently in the wheelchair and out of it.It is much better out of it.  In conclusion, I must have a accessible room

I know what you mean I range from a power wheelchair, walker (rollator), walking stick (1 or 2) or nothing, so many judgemental ......s, who say things like “I saw you walking fine the other day, is the chair just for priority ....” I tend to ignore them, Mrs Gut (who sees the tears and screams that most don’t) goes “mother grizzly”.

[Bloodgem]

Could the lack of available accessible rooms be because in the US you can book using refundable deposits?

Maybe accessible rooms should be like suites, non refundable.

[Bloodgem]

I have just found this on the disabled forum.

In tip 1 I love 'or just know you’ll be too tired at the end of the day to enjoy yourself, you are a candidate to use a mobility scooter'. 

In tip 13 'They’ll hold the elevator door, step aside if they’re going faster or slower than you are, and even help push you when you get stuck going up the gangway the first day on the ship' made my smile. As normally I have to ask people to move so I can get passed. 

I'm not sure how old this article is parts made me smile. 😊 

[ryano]

 

 

Starting to heat up out there.  Summer lull is over 

Edited August 23, 2019 by ryano

[nadinenurse1]

So yes I need the other features * can’t get my back to comply I need a shower seat still what ever, if I don’t get that do I not shower for the cruise duration,  I bring my manual wheelchair that I own, my husband is usually tripping over  it eveN when collapsed, in a non handicapped room, we tried  that on Carnival , it was a disaster, the cabin support stepped up helping us several times a day at their suggestion to put it in a closet of theirs so I had to call and get them whenever I wanted to use it, but they did help,  and I usually do no cruise excursions b/c of my back injury.  I def DEF in caps, do not want anyone pushing or touching me other than my family.  I find that highly offensive.  So besides, the getting run over, getting stared at, dirty looks, stepped on, food pates dropped on me, drinks spilled on me,  pushed at big cruise events, crushed as I try to leave a big show event, and when I have to slightly elevate my leg w leg rests, my leg, which has shoes on and highly visible, my leg smashed (I was thinking  of attaching a caution cone to my foot, not so LOL),   I find other passengers to be less than kind.  I do everything Incan not to be a problem,  I go early early to events to not hold up a crowd and wait to the end for it to clear out before I leave. I guess I use about 50% of the  cruise as I avoid crowds. To not make things difficult when in the wheelchair. Last Feb. while on the Indey by back was really bad , so I “parked” at a table by the pizza joint for the night and never left. 

 

So to hear that some passengers are using a handicapped room for LUXURY, really makes me go ballistic. I would love them to try to live my every day life  in its “luxury “.Sorrry for the rant to those here who I know are not them.