Rare rafinmd Posted December 16, 2019 #176 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: There is no other reason to go to Freeport, Grand Bahama Shipyard and its four dry-docks it is Actually, I think there is. Even if the repairs can be completed out of the water, I would expect the shipyard to have better staffing and facilities and will likely be a lot cheaper than a dock in Ft. Lauderdale. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted December 16, 2019 #177 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, rafinmd said: Actually, I think there is. Even if the repairs can be completed out of the water, I would expect the shipyard to have better staffing and facilities and will likely be a lot cheaper than a dock in Ft. Lauderdale. Roy There have been HAL wetdocks in PEV in the past Roy. Regardless, AIS will tell you where she's going in Freeport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted December 16, 2019 #178 Share Posted December 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, VennDiagram said: You bought/paid for your airfare to Fort Lauderdale, right? And if HAL cancels the sailing, you will get a refund of your cruise fare. So if you have a credit card you could book something else in the Fort Lauderdale area and use the refund from HAL to pay off the new/different vacation charge on your credit card.... if your personal circumstances permit that. Excellent points and suggestion 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenMom0610 Posted December 16, 2019 #179 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Samanthac25 said: The reported ETA is 6:45am tomorrow. I am scheduled on the 12/21 sailing so I am REALLY hoping that this will be a quick repair! I’m on the 12/21 sailing with my girls as well! In same predicament as you with no back up plan as we’ve saved and been so anxious and excited for this sailing! Hoping and praying we get to go...if not our Christmas is just nothing then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 16, 2019 #180 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, NavArch64 said: If the repairs can be done in four days in the shipyard in Freeport, she could be back in Port Everglades by Saturday morning for her next regularly scheduled departure. I would be interested in the technical nature of the repairs if anyone should find out such information. A day to set the blocks, and a combined day to get on/off the blocks doesn't leave much time for a pod repair. Not saying it can't be done, but that's cutting very close, and assuming a spare pod is present. 1 hour ago, Copper10-8 said: There is no other reason to go to Freeport, Grand Bahama Shipyard and its four dry-docks it is Yeah, there currently is nothing showing in GBSY in their drydocks, which would be unusual, so I have my doubts about the reliability of the data, as many ships will turn their AIS off in drydock. I believe they only had three docks, and now have only two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samanthac25 Posted December 16, 2019 #181 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, QueenMom0610 said: I’m on the 12/21 sailing with my girls as well! In same predicament as you with no back up plan as we’ve saved and been so anxious and excited for this sailing! Hoping and praying we get to go...if not our Christmas is just nothing then! Fingers crossed! This week coincides with both Christmas and my daughters 14th birthday. This trip was THE gift.. Hopefully we all get our Christmas miracle 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted December 16, 2019 #182 Share Posted December 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, QueenMom0610 said: I’m on the 12/21 sailing with my girls as well! In same predicament as you with no back up plan as we’ve saved and been so anxious and excited for this sailing! Hoping and praying we get to go...if not our Christmas is just nothing then! The company has said they will communicate early this week; at least giving you the option of booking something else for the same time frame if you have air travel already. But I also understand that's a holiday week sailing and if you are looking for last minute space it might be quite expensive. Hope it works out; I understand the disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLACRUISER99 Posted December 16, 2019 #183 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: A day to set the blocks, and a combined day to get on/off the blocks doesn't leave much time for a pod repair. Not saying it can't be done, but that's cutting very close, and assuming a spare pod is present. Yeah, there currently is nothing showing in GBSY in their drydocks, which would be unusual, so I have my doubts about the reliability of the data, as many ships will turn their AIS off in drydock. I believe they only had three docks, and now have only two. NA will not fit in drydock #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavArch64 Posted December 16, 2019 #184 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I appreciate everyone's comments. This will be interesting to follow over the next few days. PS I was aboard NAdam on May 4 earlier this year at Canada Place when she was hit by Oosterdam at about 0630. She has had an eventful year so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted December 16, 2019 #185 Share Posted December 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, rafinmd said: Actually, I think there is. Even if the repairs can be completed out of the water, I would expect the shipyard to have better staffing and facilities and will likely be a lot cheaper than a dock in Ft. Lauderdale. Roy I think price is the least of their concerns at the moment. Speed is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted December 16, 2019 #186 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, FLACRUISER99 said: NA will not fit in drydock #1 So that means only one possibility. Any way to check a recent aerial view? Google Earth maybe? Edited December 16, 2019 by MisterBill99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Posted December 16, 2019 #187 Share Posted December 16, 2019 She's on the move. https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted December 16, 2019 #188 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Tugs Broward and St. John's earning their $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Pete Cruiser Posted December 16, 2019 #189 Share Posted December 16, 2019 NA leaving, hopefully to be back soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted December 16, 2019 #190 Share Posted December 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, MisterBill99 said: So that means only one possibility. Any way to check a recent aerial view? Google Earth maybe? Nieuw A was in the GBS as recent as two years ago this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raesive Posted December 16, 2019 #191 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Anyone know, do the hospitality crew get a few days vacation on board? Do they disembark until the next sailing? Other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted December 16, 2019 #192 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, raesive said: Anyone know, do the hospitality crew get a few days vacation on board? Do they disembark until the next sailing? Other? Likely cheaper to keep them on board than get hotel rooms in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyrc5 Posted December 16, 2019 #193 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Did anyone else notice the person in white jogging on the deck as the ship was leaving? Who was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvteaching Posted December 16, 2019 #194 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I did and wondered about it! Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavArch64 Posted December 16, 2019 #195 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I watched her depart on the PEV webcam … very interesting wake pattern at the stern … seemed to be unusually turbulent on the port side for the modest speed … and no wake on the starboard side. One might guess that the problem AZIPOD is the starboard unit. But, only HAL knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavArch64 Posted December 16, 2019 #196 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I just had another thought … normally the AZIPOD propellers "pull" the ship (are forward of the pod in order to have smoother flow into the propellers) in the routine underway mode. However, with the starboard unit inoperable, perhaps the port AZIPOD is operating in the "push" configuration (propeller aft of the pod) in order to better maintain directional stability in this operating condition. That might explain the turbulence seen at the stern behind the port AZIPOD. Anyone have other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavArch64 Posted December 16, 2019 #197 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Finally, it would be interesting to see the display in the forward center of the Crows Nest that shows the position and rpm of the AZIPODS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyrc5 Posted December 16, 2019 #198 Share Posted December 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, NavArch64 said: I just had another thought … normally the AZIPOD propellers "pull" the ship (are forward of the pod in order to have smoother flow into the propellers) in the routine underway mode. However, with the starboard unit inoperable, perhaps the port AZIPOD is operating in the "push" configuration (propeller aft of the pod) in order to better maintain directional stability in this operating condition. That might explain the turbulence seen at the stern behind the port AZIPOD. Anyone have other ideas? One of the captains told me that on the pods when they were first being used that they would ruin the bearing if they did this - has that changed on the newer pods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavArch64 Posted December 16, 2019 #199 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Very good comment … that might be so. Clearly the Captain and Chief Engineer do not want to risk damaging the port AZIPOD in any way. I wish HAL would share technical details with those interested … but my experience is that generally, they do not. In any event, we wish HAL well with the necessary repairs to the starboard AZIPOD. As I am booked on the March 28 sailing, I want the ship to be back in tip=top condition ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevingastreich Posted December 17, 2019 #200 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NavArch64 said: Very good comment … that might be so. Clearly the Captain and Chief Engineer do not want to risk damaging the port AZIPOD in any way. I wish HAL would share technical details with those interested … but my experience is that generally, they do not. In any event, we wish HAL well with the necessary repairs to the starboard AZIPOD. As I am booked on the March 28 sailing, I want the ship to be back in tip=top condition ASAP. The lawyers probably tell them to only give out the minimum info necessary. Best to "Dummy Up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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