MISTER 67 Posted December 15, 2019 #51 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) I wonder how dis-embarkation is going to happen and will there be port workers helping with the luggage. I would want to do an early walkoff if allowed. I really feel sorry for those with flights, could be a real headache. I hope HAL comes through with some nice discounts on future cruises for the passengers besides a full refund. Edited December 15, 2019 by MISTER 67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat shepard Posted December 15, 2019 #52 Share Posted December 15, 2019 This is tough to hear. My sympathies to everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyInVan Posted December 15, 2019 #53 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, rafinmd said: It sounds like the azipod is out of service for some time. How much of a problem would it be for the ship to sail several cruises on one azipod? I'm pretty sure you have said that the majority of ocean shipping sails with just one propeller. Is it that big a problem for a cruise ship? Here's a comparison with a twin engine aeroplane. With only one engine, the plane could make it to the nearest airport. With zero engines, the plane becomes a...... glider. With two thousand civilians on board (many with mobility issues), no sane captain would risk an evacuation like the Viking ship off Norway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted December 15, 2019 #54 Share Posted December 15, 2019 So sad to have a holiday cruise cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted December 15, 2019 #55 Share Posted December 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Himself said: This is a disappointment but I hope they can get her back on line for nest weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISTER 67 Posted December 15, 2019 #56 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HappyInVan said: Here's a comparison with a twin engine aeroplane. With only one engine, the plane could make it to the nearest airport. With zero engines, the plane becomes a...... glider. With two thousand civilians on board (many with mobility issues), no sane captain would risk an evacuation like the Viking ship off Norway. If you're talking about modern day jet airliners, they don't glide. Edited December 15, 2019 by MISTER 67 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilty964 Posted December 15, 2019 #57 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) How sad and disappointing for everyone involved...good luck to all. We are sailing on her in February. Looking forward to our 1st Caribbean Cruise! (I hope it's all fixed by then, and not too many others are disappointed...) Edited December 15, 2019 by ktbraun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted December 15, 2019 #58 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Sad news for those onboard Nieuw A! Hoping they are able to locate a vacant dry-dock in the area and get a new pod shipped there. When this happened on Oosterdam thirteen years ago, they installed a spare pod on a temp basis which was already in the States and sped up the process tremendously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvalonLady Posted December 15, 2019 #59 Share Posted December 15, 2019 So sorry for the passengers and crew ! Having just spent a week on this ship, it is sad to hear that she is "injured". Any word on what caused the Azipod to fail ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoLoco1 Posted December 15, 2019 #60 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The Nieuw Statendam has ABB Azipods. SGS (Subsea Global Solutions) HAS in fact repaired Azipod seals without Drydock in certain situations, but not all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISTER 67 Posted December 15, 2019 #61 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AvalonLady said: So sorry for the passengers and crew ! Having just spent a week on this ship, it is sad to hear that she is "injured". Any word on what caused the Azipod to fail ? We were on her from Nov 30-Dec 7. We have sailed and love all the vista class ships and the NA became our favorite. Edited December 15, 2019 by MISTER 67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 15, 2019 #62 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, MisterBill99 said: Given that the only thing the CD (who isn't really a CD anymore) can offer is more trivia. They have no real activities on HAL anymore. Maybe (s)he could give destination talks about ports the ship wasn't going to visit. Bring out the Music Walk entertainers for extra shows. Maybe HAL's powers that be will learn a lesson from having NO experienced CD on that large ship and knows that a REAL CD would have reams of tried and tested activities to entertains cruisers. AND HOW about a CRUIe staff for that CD? How dos one have 'fun games' if there is no one to start and organize the 'fun'. a? BUDGET cutting gone amuck.............. Big loss for tiny savings !! Good investment to staff the fun department properly ? We here in this CC forum have discussed lackof real CD;'s several times lately. Maybe HAL might finally figure out we may sometimes actually know about what we speak We are just the flesh and blood that put our heads in their beds and open our wallets to do so Edited December 15, 2019 by sail7seas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted December 15, 2019 #63 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, AvalonLady said: So sorry for the passengers and crew ! Having just spent a week on this ship, it is sad to hear that she is "injured". Any word on what caused the Azipod to fail ? Too early to tell - I'm sure the engineers onboard have an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted December 15, 2019 #64 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, MISTER 67 said: We were on her from Nov 30-Dec 7. We love all the vista class ships and the NA became our favorite. Just a heads up; Nieuw A is a Signature-class ship along with Eurodam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted December 15, 2019 #65 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MISTER 67 said: If you're talking about modern day jet airliners, they don't glide. Actually, they do albeit not super efficiently... couple of [in]famous (Canadian) examples -- the Gimli Glider (Air Canada B767-200); or Transat TS236 (A330-200) -- which glided ~65nm to land in the Açores. Scott. Edited December 15, 2019 by YXU AC*SE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyInVan Posted December 15, 2019 #66 Share Posted December 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, MISTER 67 said: If you're talking about modern day jet airliners, they don't glide. What about Chesley Sullenberger? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISTER 67 Posted December 15, 2019 #67 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, Copper10-8 said: Just a heads up; Nieuw A is a Signature-class ship along with Eurodam I know, they have that extra deck where the Tamarind restaurant is located but besides that, all 6 are almost identical except for the decor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISTER 67 Posted December 15, 2019 #68 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, HappyInVan said: What about Chesley Sullenberger? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549 I stand corrected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WScruiser Posted December 15, 2019 #69 Share Posted December 15, 2019 New info on disembarkation etc. HAL is doing a pretty good job of communicating- guests can self-disembark now with all shipboard charges reversed plus a full refund of cruise fare, prepaid excursions etc. plus a 100% future cruise credit equal to fees paid for this trip. Terrible end to a great vacation, but HAL is doing the best it can. Guests can also use the ship as a hotel tonight, and leave tomorrow 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 15, 2019 #70 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, MISTER 67 said: I know, they have that extra deck where the Tamarind restaurant is located but besides that, all 6 are almost identical except for the decor. I really like where the E xploration Cafe is located. Noordami is a really beautiful ship 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANGELCAT Posted December 15, 2019 #71 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, WScruiser said: New info on disembarkation etc. HAL is doing a pretty good job of communicating- guests can self-disembark now with all shipboard charges reversed plus a full refund of cruise fare, prepaid excursions etc. plus a 100% future cruise credit equal to fees paid for this trip. Terrible end to a great vacation, but HAL is doing the best it can. Guests can also use the ship as a hotel tonight, and leave tomorrow Sorry to hear this . Safe travels home to those of you I met last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted December 15, 2019 #72 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, WScruiser said: New info on disembarkation etc. HAL is doing a pretty good job of communicating- guests can self-disembark now with all shipboard charges reversed plus a full refund of cruise fare, prepaid excursions etc. plus a 100% future cruise credit equal to fees paid for this trip. Terrible end to a great vacation, but HAL is doing the best it can. Guests can also use the ship as a hotel tonight, and leave tomorrow Wow, what a mess! I wonder what they're doing about flights for people? Not everyone has the luxury of being able to drive to port. Smooth Sailing! 🙂🙂🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted December 15, 2019 #73 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, ger_77 said: Wow, what a mess! I wonder what they're doing about flights for people? Not everyone has the luxury of being able to drive to port. Smooth Sailing! 🙂🙂🙂 Flying home today could be VERY difficult. We flew home yesterday and both flights were completely full. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radbooks Posted December 15, 2019 #74 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I think I'd try and find a nice hotel and spend the rest of the time there and enjoy Florida and fly home on my regular flight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted December 15, 2019 #75 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaveOKC said: Flying home today could be VERY difficult. We flew home yesterday and both flights were completely full. It could be worse, it could be a week from now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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