Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 2, 2020 #701 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, KirkNC said: Yes, amazing how it takes six weeks to offload crew in the Philippines 🇵🇭 and two days in Indonesia 🇮🇩. Not sure why Singapore, are there more crew to off load? We don't know for a fact that any crew was disembarked off Tanjun Priok.......... Singapore, or better yet, off Singapore, is a prospective long term layup point, as are some of the Malaysian ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted July 2, 2020 #702 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said: We don't know for a fact that any crew was disembarked off Tanjun Priok.......... Singapore, or better yet, off Singapore, is a prospective long term layup point, as are some of the Malaysian ports Don't you think that these ships should be layed up in cooler places, they would need to run the AC's 24 hrs..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted July 2, 2020 #703 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sir PMP said: Don't you think that these ships should be layed up in cooler places, they would need to run the AC's 24 hrs..? The company has their reasons for doing what they are doing. Perhaps the ships are welcome where they are laying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 2, 2020 #704 Share Posted July 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sir PMP said: Don't you think that these ships should be layed up in cooler places, they would need to run the AC's 24 hrs..? If/when they all go in long term layup, they will have a very reduced crew and no need for 100% a/c throughout the entire ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mame42 Posted July 2, 2020 Author #705 Share Posted July 2, 2020 59 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: If/when they all go in long term layup, they will have a very reduced crew and no need for 100% a/c throughout the entire ship Mildew and mold? As some one who has lived in southeast Asia, I know that it takes less effort and costs less money to prevent mildew and mold with adequate climate control than it does to mitigate damage and eliminate odors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF65 Posted July 2, 2020 #706 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Copper10-8 said: If/when they all go in long term layup, they will have a very reduced crew and no need for 100% a/c throughout the entire ship I would think they would would need to preserve a relative temperature without big humidity changes and temp changes inside to protect the interior finish materials. Wood and laminates expand with humidity and shrinks with heat, constant movement leads to cracking and issues with the coatings. I guess it would be a cost to replace vs cost to temper analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelfl Posted July 2, 2020 #707 Share Posted July 2, 2020 absolutely. they would be stupid not to run the a/c system. just imagine all the furniture.....and our luggage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted July 2, 2020 #708 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Read this week that long term shut-down causes many problems with equipment such as that in the kitchens and laundries, not to mention the damage to plumbing, water makers, electrical connections, art work, furniture, veneers and all the rest. Much of the complicated equipment takes some time to bring back on-line and often requires the assistance of factory representatives and experts. None of this is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted July 2, 2020 #709 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Sir PMP said: Maybe, but this might be the stop for the luggage.... One can only hope as I don’t believe they have a plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 2, 2020 #710 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, mame42 said: Mildew and mold? As some one who has lived in southeast Asia, I know that it takes less effort and costs less money to prevent mildew and mold with adequate climate control than it does to mitigate damage and eliminate odors. 2 hours ago, AlanF65 said: I would think they would would need to preserve a relative temperature without big humidity changes and temp changes inside to protect the interior finish materials. Wood and laminates expand with humidity and shrinks with heat, constant movement leads to cracking and issues with the coatings. I guess it would be a cost to replace vs cost to temper analysis. Yes and yes! I did not say they're going to turn the a/c off........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANKIEDNYC Posted July 2, 2020 #711 Share Posted July 2, 2020 If I. Remember correctly Capt Mercer stated in one of his blogs after we left the ship that the ac would be secured in most of the unoccupied spaces on order to conserve fuel. It's also possible that our luggage may have been moved to some kind of staging area maybe a storeroom below decks to facilitate off loading when the time comes and done while manpower was still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted July 2, 2020 #712 Share Posted July 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, FRANKIEDNYC said: If I. Remember correctly Capt Mercer stated in one of his blogs after we left the ship that the ac would be secured in most of the unoccupied spaces on order to conserve fuel. It's also possible that our luggage may have been moved to some kind of staging area maybe a storeroom below decks to facilitate off loading when the time comes and done while manpower was still available My understanding is the luggage is on A deck in a secure air conditioned area. I think someone posted that on FB World Cruise group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccole Posted July 2, 2020 #713 Share Posted July 2, 2020 8 hours ago, richwmn said: Singapore seems to be the "lay up" position for several HAL ships, as well as other lines. I would think from the crew's perspective being off the coast of Singapore would be great. I love the parts of Malaysia we have visited but for a long "lay up" Singapore would be a bit more exciting. I have no idea how these lay-up positions are chosen but cost must be a factor. What a journey!!! Cherie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted July 2, 2020 #714 Share Posted July 2, 2020 6 hours ago, mame42 said: Mildew and mold? As some one who has lived in southeast Asia, I know that it takes less effort and costs less money to prevent mildew and mold with adequate climate control than it does to mitigate damage and eliminate odors. It was on the Princess Message Board, I think, that I posted a question about "cold lay-up" like what has been done by the US government for many unneeded merchant marine ships. A poster with much more maritime knowledge than I have and whose views I have come to respect responded with what the result of such would be for a cruise ship. The interior damage could be sufficient to warrant the gutting of the vessel and starting over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANKIEDNYC Posted July 3, 2020 #715 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Unless they decide to take our luggage back to Ft Lauderdale on the Amsterdam,. Our suitcases will probably be spending a month or two in a hot container. Just remembering we left a bag full of our pillow chocolates and other candy we received as gifts in one of our bags. I wonder what that stuff will be like when it gets to Pennsylvania. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted July 3, 2020 #716 Share Posted July 3, 2020 The luggage is nicely stacked up on A deck. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotl Posted July 3, 2020 #717 Share Posted July 3, 2020 18 hours ago, FRANKIEDNYC said: Unless they decide to take our luggage back to Ft Lauderdale on the Amsterdam,. Our suitcases will probably be spending a month or two in a hot container. Just remembering we left a bag full of our pillow chocolates and other candy we received as gifts in one of our bags. I wonder what that stuff will be like when it gets to Pennsylvania. but, but, but....what about my Tim Tams??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted July 3, 2020 #718 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Sir PMP said: The luggage is nicely stacked up on A deck. This is a discouraging picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted July 3, 2020 #719 Share Posted July 3, 2020 19 hours ago, FRANKIEDNYC said: Unless they decide to take our luggage back to Ft Lauderdale on the Amsterdam,. Our suitcases will probably be spending a month or two in a hot container. Just remembering we left a bag full of our pillow chocolates and other candy we received as gifts in one of our bags. I wonder what that stuff will be like when it gets to Pennsylvania. I would suspect they would be spoiled unless they were kept cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSR Posted July 4, 2020 #720 Share Posted July 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Sir PMP said: The luggage is nicely stacked up on A deck. Is that a photo from the Sacramento Airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted July 4, 2020 #721 Share Posted July 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Sir PMP said: The luggage is nicely stacked up on A deck. I think I see one of my suitcases! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 4, 2020 #722 Share Posted July 4, 2020 More like this; stacked neatly in luggage bins by the hardworking HK guys and girls in the ship's Marshaling Area on A-Deck with space left open for the pilot to come onboard via the pilot break 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mame42 Posted July 4, 2020 Author #723 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Thank you, Copper, for the luggage pic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianadaytripper Posted July 4, 2020 #724 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just wondering did anyone else send any mail from Nuku Alofa, Tonga on 28th of February while on the world cruise. We sent 7 cards and no one we sent ever received. Thought our luggage was the the only thing adrift, mail evidently was stopped too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted July 4, 2020 #725 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Thanks Cooper, I see one of our bags , I don't see the 22 boxes from Project Linus. Edited July 4, 2020 by Gail & Marty sailing away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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