drsel Posted August 19, 2020 #26 Share Posted August 19, 2020 My father told me when I was just a kid Anthony nothing is free sooner or later you will have to pay for it. God has provided us 4 gifts for free. air to breathe sunlight waterland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted August 19, 2020 #27 Share Posted August 19, 2020 What do you mean by loose or tight slots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted August 19, 2020 #28 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Are the slots loose or tight?What do you mean by loose or tight slots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freecruiser2 Posted August 19, 2020 #29 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I received the OP offer as well. It's just not as good as it says. Can't believe Princess would bait and switch but they did. This was my 3rd casino offer in the last few months. I booked the first 2. Everything in the first 2 email offers was honored. But the 3rd email said: Inside cabin, $50 and then Princess Plus included, was added in the next section's wording. I called multiple times. The only thing they said they would give me is the Inside Cabin (comp). My husband was shocked and said I should push for what is in the email offer. So I did. Princess customer service (or whatever it's called) held tight, answer was no. I didn't push further because I know they're hurting and I feel bad for them. Outside of the pandemic I would have pushed further. The casino marketing dept sent out a sloppy email, offering things, but didn't honor it. And to let one of the above posters know, I last sailed in October, 10 day Grand Princess. I gamble some but never enough to get a free cruise from Princess, just reduced. But the Princess cruises I've been on have all been comped through casinos from Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted August 19, 2020 #30 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, drsel said: What do you mean by loose or tight slots Loose: Pays out well. Easier to leave a winner. Tight: Barely pays out. Difficult to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted August 19, 2020 #31 Share Posted August 19, 2020 all Cruise casino slot machines are bound to be tight. the loss percent could be 20% or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted August 19, 2020 #32 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, drsel said: all Cruise casino slot machines are bound to be tight. the loss percent could be 20% or more Overall, you are probably right. But, we've seen some pay out pretty well, usually for other passengers. But, we've had a few times where they were all as good, if not better, than a visit to Vegas. It's just the cost of entertainment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNTLAMB Posted August 21, 2020 #33 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Princess is fronting the Casino offers but they are not paying for them. The casino is a sperate operation (though owned by Carnival Corp) Just as Ocean Casino is a completley differnt company. At one point a couple of years ago Carnival was using Konami's Synchros Managment that has everything wired to the Penny including Players Clubs and Perks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted August 21, 2020 #34 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Offering gamblers good deals is smart business. The only way to really win at the casino is to own the place :). While most gamblers (especially slot players) insist they usually win the reality is that, over time, nearly all gamblers lose. Casinos are a major profit center for cruise ships. Hank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAboardatSea Posted August 22, 2020 #35 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The offers seem to be monthly from the casino now. We were last on Princess two years ago and we've gotten one each of the last three months. Also received the OPs offer including Princess Plus, which they apparently didn't intend to offer because we're still going back and forth with them on honoring that offer they put out. But even if they don't we will still take the comp cruise we booked and be happy. The way they are making money, or cashflow if you will, is by making it a 'free' room by way of a $200pp deposit that you get back as onboard credit. So the 'free' room ends up costing ~$700 after taxes and port charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skynight Posted August 22, 2020 #36 Share Posted August 22, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 11:20 AM, caribill said: Loose: Pays out well. Easier to leave a winner. Tight: Barely pays out. Difficult to win. At US land based casinos States may have regulations which require slots to pay a minimum amount, for example 92%, 88%. Depends on the State. Some casinos have better payouts than the required minimums. But over time the casino always wins that is how they stay in business. On cruise ships no such regulations exists. Slots can be set for whatever the passengers will accept and each slot can be set differently if so desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted August 22, 2020 #37 Share Posted August 22, 2020 3 hours ago, skynight said: At US land based casinos States may have regulations which require slots to pay a minimum amount, for example 92%, 88%. Depends on the State. Some casinos have better payouts than the required minimums. But over time the casino always wins that is how they stay in business. On cruise ships no such regulations exists. Slots can be set for whatever the passengers will accept and each slot can be set differently if so desired. In Las Vegas, if you do not like the payouts in one casino, you can simply go to hundreds of other casinos to try your luck. The cruise companies know there is no such alternative while at sea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted August 22, 2020 #38 Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 hours ago, caribill said: In Las Vegas, if you do not like the payouts in one casino, you can simply go to hundreds of other casinos to try your luck. The cruise companies know there is no such alternative while at sea. Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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