bluemarble Posted November 8, 2020 #1551 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I think we're down to just two more Cunard ports whose names start and end with the same letter (at least that I've managed to identify anyway). One is in South America and has been mentioned previously in this thread. The other, if I have it figured correctly, is on an island in the Mediterranean where the town at the port shares the name of the island itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted November 8, 2020 #1552 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Would that be Samos ? I visited there as al port change on another line... EM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemarble Posted November 8, 2020 #1553 Share Posted November 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Essiesmom said: Would that be Samos ? I visited there as al port change on another line... EM Yes, Samos is the Mediterranean port I was looking for. QV has called there several times and I found a photo showing QV in the bay where the town of Samos is located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted November 8, 2020 #1554 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Have we had Arica, Chile? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemarble Posted November 8, 2020 #1555 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 hours ago, exlondoner said: Have we had Arica, Chile? Arica is the South America port I was looking for. That concludes our game to identify Cunard ports whose names begin and end with the same letter (unless anyone knows of any more). Thanks to everyone who participated and to those who came up with ports I hadn't found. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 8, 2020 #1556 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Morning all. Do we think that the following qualifies? Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam If "City" is an integral part of the place name, then I suppose it shouldn't qualify. It is listed in Cunard itineraries with "City", and the Wikipedia entry shows the name as Ho Chi Minh City and the acronym HCMC, so probably this is the case. But if "City" is just an additional informal description, like New York City but it is really just New York, then perhaps it does qualify a little. Maybe an honorable mention.... Thanks as always, @bluemarble. Another fun game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemarble Posted November 8, 2020 #1557 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) @sfred, I think also debated whether Ho Chi Minh City should qualify or not when I was first compiling my list of ports for that last game and ultimately decided that it probably did not. But I'm certainly willing to give it a shout out as an honorable mention. Thanks for the kind words. Edited November 8, 2020 by bluemarble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 8, 2020 #1558 Share Posted November 8, 2020 In the spirit of the recent fun location challenges, I've thought of another. The large majority of our time on Cunard ships has all been at the exact same altitude - "sea level". But occasionally, the water level that the ship is floating on is above, or below, "sea level". Where are these places in the world (not necessarily ports), and what is the highest altitude that a Cunard ship has ever climbed to? Tidal variation should not count. High tide is above low tide, sometimes significantly so like at St. John NB Canada, but they are both still "sea level" at that point in time. To kick it off, here's an example: Manaus, Brazil. In February when QV has called at Manaus, the average height of the Amazon River is around 25 meters above sea level. The water height is even greater later in the year when summer rainfall swells the river. What are some other Cunard places that are above, or below, sea level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted November 8, 2020 #1559 Share Posted November 8, 2020 how about this port has been shown before but a different aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemarble Posted November 9, 2020 #1560 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, sfred said: In the spirit of the recent fun location challenges, I've thought of another. The large majority of our time on Cunard ships has all been at the exact same altitude - "sea level". But occasionally, the water level that the ship is floating on is above, or below, "sea level". Where are these places in the world (not necessarily ports), and what is the highest altitude that a Cunard ship has ever climbed to? Tidal variation should not count. High tide is above low tide, sometimes significantly so like at St. John NB Canada, but they are both still "sea level" at that point in time. To kick it off, here's an example: Manaus, Brazil. In February when QV has called at Manaus, the average height of the Amazon River is around 25 meters above sea level. The water height is even greater later in the year when summer rainfall swells the river. What are some other Cunard places that are above, or below, sea level? The first place that comes to my mind is while transiting the Panama Canal. Naturally, those locks raise ships above sea level during the transit. Wikipedia tells me Gatun Lake is 26 meters / 85 feet above sea level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemarble Posted November 9, 2020 #1561 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, sogne said: how about this port has been shown before but a different aspect I think this is a view of the Frihamnen Cruise Center in Stockholm, Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 9, 2020 #1562 Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 hours ago, sfred said: What are some other Cunard places that are above, or below, sea 5 hours ago, bluemarble said: The first place that comes to my mind is while transiting the Panama Canal. Naturally, those locks raise ships above sea level during the transit. Wikipedia tells me Gatun Lake is 26 meters / 85 feet above sea level. Agreed, and as best I can determine, the Panama Canal is the highest altitude a Cunard ship has climbed to, at 26 meters. A bit short of the altitude of the world's highest navigable body of water, Lake Titicaca on the Peru-Bolivia border, at 3,812 meters, but not too bad . Lifting 90,000 gross tons of ship by 26 meters is a lot of work. After the canal at +26 meters, and Manaus at approximately +25 meters, I think there are four more Cunard ports in the world that have water levels different from "sea level" (although admittedly the deviation becomes much smaller). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted November 9, 2020 #1563 Share Posted November 9, 2020 What about Amsterdam? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted November 9, 2020 #1564 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Todays Queens are too large, but has Cunard ever had a ship transit the Kiel Kanal? EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 9, 2020 #1565 Share Posted November 9, 2020 12 hours ago, exlondoner said: What about Amsterdam? Thanks @exlondoner. Yes, that is one of the places that I think qualifies. The locks at lJmuiden have a vertical rise or fall, depending on the tide conditions, such that the port of Amsterdam can be slightly below or slightly above "sea level". Not the 26m of Panama, but nonetheless a variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 9, 2020 #1566 Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Essiesmom said: Todays Queens are too large, but has Cunard ever had a ship transit the Kiel Kanal? EM As you say, @Essiesmom, the current Queens cannot fit in the Kiel canal. Limiting factors are length (canal limit of 235.5m and QV is 294m), and air draft to fit under bridges (canal limit of 40m and QV is 54.6m). QM2 is bigger again and would also exceed the canal's limits on draft and beam. I've seen postings in the Cunard forum from people who have transited the Kiel canal on Caronia and Vistafjord. Not sure about other previous ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted November 9, 2020 #1567 Share Posted November 9, 2020 And what about the dry dock in Hamburg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 9, 2020 #1568 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, exlondoner said: And what about the dry dock in Hamburg? Two for two, @exlondoner! QM2 has used the Blohm & Voss 17 dry dock in Hamburg for refits. When emptying or filling the dry dock, there would be a period of time when the ship was afloat off the bottom of the dock, but the water level in the dock would not yet be at "sea level". Also I understand that at times, the water level of the Elbe at Hamburg can be above "sea level" during rainy periods, exceeding the normal tidal variation. Not by a lot, but some. Edited November 9, 2020 by sfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfred Posted November 9, 2020 #1569 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 11:20 PM, bluemarble said: That concludes our game to identify Cunard ports whose names begin and end with the same letter (unless anyone knows of any more). Thanks to everyone who participated and to those who came up with ports I hadn't found. One last thought on the recent game for Cunard ports that begin and end with the same letter. While the below doesn't qualify... Glenelg Scotland UK ...it would be great if it did. The name is also a palindrome. Unfortunately the pier looks a little small for Cunard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Colin_Cameron Posted November 10, 2020 #1570 Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 hours ago, sfred said: One last thought on the recent game for Cunard ports that begin and end with the same letter. While the below doesn't qualify... Glenelg Scotland UK ...it would be great if it did. The name is also a palindrome. Unfortunately the pier looks a little small for Cunard. I had a season ticket for that crossing for many years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted November 10, 2020 #1571 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 hours ago, sfred said: Two for two, @exlondoner! QM2 has used the Blohm & Voss 17 dry dock in Hamburg for refits. When emptying or filling the dry dock, there would be a period of time when the ship was afloat off the bottom of the dock, but the water level in the dock would not yet be at "sea level". Also I understand that at times, the water level of the Elbe at Hamburg can be above "sea level" during rainy periods, exceeding the normal tidal variation. Not by a lot, but some. Have the current Cunarders always dry docked in Hamburg or have they ever been anywhere else? Also does heavy rain in Quebec affect the water level as in Hamburg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted November 10, 2020 #1572 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, exlondoner said: Have the current Cunarders always dry docked in Hamburg or have they ever been anywhere else? Also does heavy rain in Quebec affect the water level as in Hamburg? Queen Elizabeth was dry docked in 2018 at Brest Queen Victoria had her surgery in 2017 at Palermo Those are two recent ones l recall off hand but there may be more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Hattie Posted November 10, 2020 Author #1573 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I found another set of photos, this is probably far too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted November 10, 2020 #1574 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Well, it could be on the Clyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted November 10, 2020 #1575 Share Posted November 10, 2020 If not the Clyde then further north. I think the ship in the window is MV Lord of the Isles and her usual beat is around Oban and the Hebrides. I will try at anchor near Oban? Which ship are you on, it looks like forward on Queen Mary 2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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