CCL Terminates Senior Officers

[Aquahound]

6 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

 

He's in a bit of a different situation since, in his current function, he is not assigned to a ship in particular. When HAL lost four ships, eight captains/eight staff captains, etc. down the line, lost their ships with only one new ship joining next year. Doing the math is easy; they went from fourteen to ten ships, that's a lot of staff from those four ships to absorb elsewhere.........

 

That's heartbreaking.  All the years of busting butts, working their way up the totem pole on cruise and merchant mariner ships, only to get cut loose in an industry that is largely cutting back across the page.  On a good note, Fred Olsen and some start-up lines need qualified officers and crew.  Hopefully all is not lost for these folks.   

[Copper10-8]

45 minutes ago, Aquahound said:

 

That's heartbreaking.  All the years of busting butts, working their way up the totem pole on cruise and merchant mariner ships, only to get cut loose in an industry that is largely cutting back across the page.  On a good note, Fred Olsen and some start-up lines need qualified officers and crew.  Hopefully all is not lost for these folks.   

 

I have a feeling it will be handled through seniority (not all of those eight are newly promoted, so will take the slots of more junior staff on the ten remaining ships), potentially by more senior staff being offered retirements, temporarily dropping one rank down (which will have a trickle down effect) until better times present themselves, etc.

 

Regardless, some will no doubt choose to go elsewhere (merchant instead of cruise industry) and/or whoever else is hiring at the moment. Tough decisions! 

[TiogaCruiser]

43 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

I have a feeling it will be handled through seniority (not all of those eight are newly promoted, so will take the slots of more junior staff on the ten remaining ships), potentially by more senior staff being offered retirements, temporarily dropping one rank down (which will have a trickle down effect) until better times present themselves, etc.

 

Regardless, some will no doubt choose to go elsewhere (merchant instead of cruise industry) and/or whoever else is hiring at the moment. Tough decisions! 

So in this time of cutbacks, how is the shipping industry doing? Are they really in a place to take on significant numbers of displaced staff?

[Despegue]

I think that they are firstly looking into voluntary redundancies, there ARE jobs at the moment in the merchant navy and ashore, offering more family time.

Early retirement is also an option that is often utilised with crew.

As a last resort, there might be mandatory redundancy, often by seniority and  (temporary) downranking.

 

 

This is what is being done also at the airlines.

[chengkp75]

This is just the way of the industry.  Any time you change companies, you normally have to take at least one step backwards, I've done it a couple of times.  Not only will the company use seniority, but performance evaluations will be used to remove those least effective.  Not all Captains, in particular, wish to step back to Chief Officer, so some will go elsewhere, and some will retire.

 

The global shipping industry is experiencing a slow down just like the rest of the world economy, but jobs are available.  The worst problem we are having is getting crew changes allowed.  While the cruise industry has essentially solved it's "trapped crew" problem, it is estimated that there are over 600,000 merchant mariners (half onboard and half waiting to return) who have either had to over extend their work tour or cannot return because the other crew cannot get off, and this number goes up by about 100,000 a month.  This currently represents about 1/3 of the total number of mariners around the world.  The IMO is working hard with other international agencies to get this looming crisis ended.

[mcrcruiser]

We do not know where this is going to end ;but ,we pray that it ends well for all concerned 👍

[indokiwi]

Just because a HAL crew member hasn’t posted their letter like the CCL crew did, doesn’t mean they aren’t getting the same notices. This post is from an Executive Chef (now formerly) with HAL