TheMiz Posted April 6, 2021 #901 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Not odd at all. Medicare has its own fixed rates, much like most private insurance companies. The amount approved is what caught my eye. Seemed odd the second shot was approved $10.50 higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 6, 2021 #902 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheMiz said: The amount approved is what caught my eye. Seemed odd the second shot was approved $10.50 higher. No that's expected. I'm not sure why the difference, but that's written into the fee schedule. Interesting though is after March 15, it was a flat $40 (give or take, based on geographic location) for each shot https://www.cms.gov/medicare/medicare-part-b-drug-average-sales-price/covid-19-vaccines-and-monoclonal-antibodies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted April 6, 2021 #903 Share Posted April 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, TheMiz said: The amount approved is what caught my eye. Seemed odd the second shot was approved $10.50 higher. The amount was increased sometime in March. You probably got you first dose before the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMiz Posted April 6, 2021 #904 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Charles4515 said: The amount was increased sometime in March. You probably got you first dose before the change. Yes they were , the examples I posted are dated Feb 3rd and 24th Thanks to SmokeyB. for posting the current price Link Edited April 6, 2021 by TheMiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 7, 2021 #905 Share Posted April 7, 2021 A CLIA representative was asked about a vaccine requirement in the US. They responded that they don't believe the government can mandate a vaccine so in their opinion it's not very likely a vaccine will be required to cruise, at least as a CDC/government requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkruzer Posted April 7, 2021 #906 Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, twangster said: A CLIA representative was asked about a vaccine requirement in the US. They responded that they don't believe the government can mandate a vaccine so in their opinion it's not very likely a vaccine will be required to cruise, at least as a CDC/government requirement. Ok but lots of vaccines are required....to go to school, to work, etc. Remember the German measles outbreak in colleges in the late 80s? Oh well not sure what will happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 7, 2021 #907 Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, njkruzer said: Ok but lots of vaccines are required....to go to school, to work, etc. Remember the German measles outbreak in colleges in the late 80s? Oh well not sure what will happen. Individual states set vaccine requirements for school children, not the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/records/schools.html Required Vaccines for Child Care and School CDC does not set vaccination requirements for schools or childcare centers. Each state decides which vaccines are required for your child’s enrollment and attendance at a childcare facility or school in that state. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurUSCG Posted April 7, 2021 #908 Share Posted April 7, 2021 58 minutes ago, twangster said: A CLIA representative was asked about a vaccine requirement in the US. They responded that they don't believe the government can mandate a vaccine so in their opinion it's not very likely a vaccine will be required to cruise, at least as a CDC/government requirement. The CDC might not set it as an individual requirement, but they could require and 80% of the vessel occupancy vaccination requirement. Or thru restrictions make it so the cruise lines don't want to deal with vaccinated customers. Example: If the cruise contains unvaccinated adults then masks must be worn and enforcement of correct wearing of CDC approved masks in all common areas and dinning tables spaced 6 ft apart for guests that are not occupying the same state room. The 6ft distancing requirement must also be enforced at all times, including for shows. Or if all adults are vaccinated then cruise like it is 2019. If you were the CEO, which guest experience would you choose? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky616 Posted April 7, 2021 #909 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, njkruzer said: Ok but lots of vaccines are required....to go to school, to work, etc. Remember the German measles outbreak in colleges in the late 80s? Oh well not sure what will happen. This has not been authorized by the FDA. Just a rushed experiment. Can't even say it's a vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted April 7, 2021 #910 Share Posted April 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Sky616 said: This has not been authorized by the FDA. Just a rushed experiment. Can't even say it's a vaccine. It elicits an antibody response, that is a textbook definition of a vaccine. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkruzer Posted April 7, 2021 #911 Share Posted April 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, Sky616 said: This has not been authorized by the FDA. Just a rushed experiment. Can't even say it's a vaccine. I'm not sure how to answer. This is a vaccine. Got both my shots. Please stay safe and healthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 7, 2021 #912 Share Posted April 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: It elicits an antibody response, that is a textbook definition of a vaccine. Absolutely! I can attest to that! My brother is a pathologist at the University of Texas. He has had his and our whole family has except the brother who died from Covid in Florida before he could get the vaccine. It is definitely a viable vaccine, more and more short term studies confirm the most positive efficacy. Someone has been reading or watching the looneys! Like the front line Physicians group which are mostly Osteopaths. Everyone is entitled to their personal decision to get it or not. But it shouldn't have urban myths attached to it. The REAL science proves otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 7, 2021 #913 Share Posted April 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, njkruzer said: I'm not sure how to answer. This is a vaccine. Got both my shots. Please stay safe and healthy I know how: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized three COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use. The vaccines are: Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine.Mar 24, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 7, 2021 #914 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: It elicits an antibody response, that is a textbook definition of a vaccine. sorry i wanted to reply to someone else Edited April 7, 2021 by BecciBoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 7, 2021 #915 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Sky616 said: This has not been authorized by the FDA. Just a rushed experiment. Can't even say it's a vaccine. Oh but yes it has, maybe you don't check out the news much: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized three COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use. The vaccines are: Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine.Mar 24, 2021 from their site You're a month late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkruzer Posted April 7, 2021 #916 Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, BecciBoo said: I know how: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized three COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use. The vaccines are: Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine.Mar 24, 2021 Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted April 7, 2021 #917 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, BecciBoo said: Absolutely! I can attest to that! My brother is a pathologist at the University of Texas. He has had his and our whole family has except the brother who died from Covid in Florida before he could get the vaccine. It is definitely a viable vaccine, more and more short term studies confirm the most positive efficacy. Someone has been reading or watching the looneys! Like the front line Physicians group which are mostly Osteopaths. Everyone is entitled to their personal decision to get it or not. But it shouldn't have urban myths attached to it. The REAL science proves otherwise. My condolences to you and your family for the loss of your brother. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 8, 2021 #918 Share Posted April 8, 2021 14 hours ago, A&L_Ont said: My condolences to you and your family for the loss of your brother. Thank you so much! After the shock of that, we all decided to get the vaccine. He was in the comorbidity group so it should've been expected but when you get that call, it's still devastating. It took exactly 12 hours from the time he called saying he had difficulty breathing until he died of Pulmonary Embolism, a direct result of Covid. He was in hospital by 11:00pm and died at 1:47AM the next morning. THey only treated him for 3 hrs...so it can be very quick. My advice, take the vaccine, it's much less risky than getting the disease! And read up on Covid Myths online. Most of what I'm hearing people say is just that...myth. Like the poster who said FDA has not yet approved it. That is nonsense from their own site they approved the major 3 vaccines! People need to quit putting misinformation out there. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky616 Posted April 8, 2021 #919 Share Posted April 8, 2021 18 hours ago, BecciBoo said: Oh but yes it has, maybe you don't check out the news much: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized three COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use. The vaccines are: Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine.Mar 24, 2021 from their site You're a month late. Emergency use only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmcgann11 Posted April 8, 2021 #920 Share Posted April 8, 2021 The emergency being a pandemic that has literally killed millions. All three of these vaccines have gone through three phases of safety and efficacy testing, with ongoing monitoring. They are wildly effective and safe. The EUA status reflects that we did not have the time to wait the customary multiple years for formal approval. I'd love to discuss this further, but I really want to know where you got your degree in public health — as a professional journalist who has been writing about the impact of COVID-19 in Pennsylvania, I've been dealing in facts for 14 months on this issue, covering every development and reading up on the science so I can better explain it to my readers. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 8, 2021 #921 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Sky616 said: Emergency use only. This IS the emergency🤣 Maybe you missed the word "Authorized". Edited April 8, 2021 by BecciBoo 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted April 8, 2021 #922 Share Posted April 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, Sky616 said: Emergency use only. Duh. There is an emergency. Stay safe. If you don't get vaccinated or have not had Covid you are a big fat target for the latest variant. The virus is surging in younger demographics because a high percentage of over 65 has been vaccinated. As the percentage of the population vaccanated or with Covid immunity rises those left without antibodies are going to be the big fat target of the virus. The virus needs to feed. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky616 Posted April 8, 2021 #923 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Charles4515 said: Duh. There is an emergency. Stay safe. If you don't get vaccinated or have not had Covid you are a big fat target for the latest variant. The virus is surging in younger demographics because a high percentage of over 65 has been vaccinated. As the percentage of the population vaccanated or with Covid immunity rises those left without antibodies are going to be the big fat target of the virus. The virus needs to feed. I'll take my chances with a virus with a 99.6% survival rate versus a experimental "vaccine" rushed to market. I'll wait and let all the guinea pigs get it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurUSCG Posted April 8, 2021 #924 Share Posted April 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Sky616 said: I'll take my chances with a virus with a 99.6% survival rate versus a experimental "vaccine" rushed to market. I'll wait and let all the guinea pigs get it. Just surviving isn't the only concern. There is associated risk of mental health issues for covid survivors.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brain-idUSKBN2BT2ZI 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted April 8, 2021 #925 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 2:34 PM, Sky616 said: This has not been authorized by the FDA. Just a rushed experiment. Can't even say it's a vaccine. mRNA vaccines have emergency authorization from the FDA so you are incorrect when you say "this has not been authorized by the FDA". Approval by the FDA is forthcoming. mRNA technology has been in development for at least 10 years. Your statement of "just a rushed experiment" is not true unless you feel ten years is "rushed". Actually experiments began in the 1990's. Here, read about it........ The story of mRNA mRNA technology most certainly is a vaccine. This is the definition of a vaccine (take a look at definition B).......... Definition of vaccine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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