Beaver1975 Posted May 24, 2021 #151 Share Posted May 24, 2021 15 hours ago, BirdTravels said: You actually have substantially less immunity. And your immunity will decrease more rapidly over time. Not according to my medical friends. I had the virus and am still testing positive for antibodies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 24, 2021 #152 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, coffeebean said: OR.....the reading and the research this person has done is from those sites that misinform with conspiracy theories. So, if my understandings don’t align with yours you just poo poo it off to conspiracy theories. How frequently has your information source changed their stance? Mine has held steadfast from the beginning. Just sayin’. Edited May 24, 2021 by Beaver1975 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 24, 2021 #153 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, step78 said: Do Americans have no yellow WHO-vac passport? No, socialism has not yet been established here? We still have free will for now. Plus the fact that our Hippa laws still give us a certain amount of privacy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateQ22003 Posted May 24, 2021 #154 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Beaver1975 said: No, socialism has not yet been established here? We still have free will for now. Plus the fact that our Hippa laws still give us a certain amount of privacy. The acronym is HIPAA, not HIPPA. Our HIPAA laws relate to healthcare settings, and nothing else. Edited May 24, 2021 by KateQ22003 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted May 24, 2021 #155 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I really wish it was possible to downvote posts on this forum sometimes.... 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted May 24, 2021 #156 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, step78 said: Do Americans have no yellow WHO-vac passport? I believe this one is accepted worldwide!? Don't think your "cdc-document" will be accepted that much. Especially if it's only written in English. (greetings to our french friends ) Very few Americans have had a yellow fever vaccine. Those of us who had it, we have the yellow card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimone Posted May 24, 2021 #157 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I believe the yellow vaccine record is similar to what anticoagulant takers are required to carry, just in case of medical treatment, accidents happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted May 24, 2021 #158 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beaver1975 said: So, if my understandings don’t align with yours you just poo poo it off to conspiracy theories. How frequently has your information source changed their stance? Mine has held steadfast from the beginning. Just sayin’. According to what you have said your sources say, my answer will be your understanding is correct. My information sources are based on evolving science. Just sayin'. Edited May 24, 2021 by coffeebean 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 24, 2021 #159 Share Posted May 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, coffeebean said: According to what you have said your sources say, my answer will be your understanding is correct. My information sources are based on evolving science. Just sayin'. Evolving to fit the agenda of controlling the sheep. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 24, 2021 #160 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, JamieLogical said: I really wish it was possible to downvote posts on this forum sometimes.... Ditto!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 24, 2021 #161 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, KateQ22003 said: The acronym is HIPAA, not HIPPA. Our HIPAA laws relate to healthcare settings, and nothing else. Sorry for the typo. our HIPAA laws also include the disclosure (or lack thereof) of private health care information!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
step78 Posted May 25, 2021 #162 Share Posted May 25, 2021 The who-pass only shows your vaccinations, no other health info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 25, 2021 #163 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, step78 said: The who-pass only shows your vaccinations, no other health info. That is still private information as it pertains to our HIPAA laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbschultz Posted May 25, 2021 #164 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Beaver1975 said: That is still private information as it pertains to our HIPAA laws. And once again as has been stated a thousand times... you're more than welcome to not show your private health records to anyone whom may ask, but they then have every right to not permit you to enter their premises, planes, cruise ships, etc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 25, 2021 #165 Share Posted May 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, rbschultz said: And once again as has been stated a thousand times... you're more than welcome to not show your private health records to anyone whom may ask, but they then have every right to not permit you to enter their premises, planes, cruise ships, etc. Excellent point but it won't make a difference to those opposed to the vaccines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateQ22003 Posted May 25, 2021 #166 Share Posted May 25, 2021 19 hours ago, Beaver1975 said: Sorry for the typo. our HIPAA laws also include the disclosure (or lack thereof) of private health care information!! Only by healthcare entities. NCL doesn't qualify. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 25, 2021 #167 Share Posted May 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, KateQ22003 said: Only by healthcare entities. NCL doesn't qualify. Incorrect. Human Resources of businesses are held to HIPAA laws also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 25, 2021 #168 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, rbschultz said: And once again as has been stated a thousand times... you're more than welcome to not show your private health records to anyone whom may ask, but they then have every right to not permit you to enter their premises, planes, cruise ships, etc. ...and state governments can revoke access to companies that discriminate based on circumventing our laws. It’s a two way street. It is so sad that so many of you are willing to give up your civil liberties because the government (and some businesses) deems it necessary based on “evolving” science on a disease that is more survivable than a typical flu outbreak. Don’t give me death tolls because there was no vaccine in the beginning as there is for the flu every year. Why are some states, and their schools, open for business and others are not? Look at the “leadership” and draw your own conclusions!! I am done here. I won’t change you and you will definitely not change me. But, wake up to what is truly in play here. That is not conspiracy theory. Edited May 25, 2021 by Beaver1975 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbschultz Posted May 25, 2021 #169 Share Posted May 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Beaver1975 said: ...and state governments can revoke access to companies that discriminate based on circumventing our laws. It’s a two way street. They're certainly trying right now. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Seemingly right now Royal Caribbean and NCL are both planning for vaccinated cruises and aiming to sail from Florida. 20 minutes ago, Beaver1975 said: It is so sad that so many of you are willing to give up your civil liberties because the government (and some businesses) deems it necessary What civil liberty am I giving up? I want to cruise and I'm more than happy to disclose my vaccination status. I'm not being forced to do anything. 23 minutes ago, Beaver1975 said: But, wake up to what is truly in play here. That is not conspiracy theory. What am I supposed to be waking up to? I've very plainly ignored the rest of your post because, frankly it's not worth trying to engage that. 28 minutes ago, Beaver1975 said: Don’t give me death tolls because there was no vaccine in the beginning as there is for the flu every year. Yes, thats the point.... The pandemic occurred and there was no vaccine which meant this was extremely transmissible and deadly. What happened when the vaccine started being widely adapted? Deaths decreased. The Covid outbreak can be significantly weakened by an increased acceptance of the vaccine. Honestly it just seems like you want to stare at the sky and yell at the clouds right now, so enjoy your day and I'll go enjoy mine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 25, 2021 #170 Share Posted May 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, Beaver1975 said: I am done here. I won’t change you and you will definitely not change me. But, wake up to what is truly in play here. That is not conspiracy theory. Generally speaking, the first clue that someone is advocating a conspiracy theory is their denial of advocating a conspiracy theory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted May 25, 2021 #171 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: Generally speaking, the first clue that someone is advocating a conspiracy theory is their denial of advocating a conspiracy theory. But, who is calling it a conspiracy theory? Edited May 25, 2021 by Beaver1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk218 Posted May 25, 2021 #172 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Im starting to recall why I took a six month hiatus from these boards .... You want a shot ? Get a shot . If you dont , dont ..... Next if you turn in your neighbor will give you a prize ... What the hell is wrong with people.... See you all in another six . Peace out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted May 25, 2021 #173 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Geez...I'm just trying to figure out if I should bring a mask with me on my cruise? Since the fully vaccinated don't require masks, I'm assuming no. But, that's an assumption. All the rest? Whether you do or do not have a COVID vaccine(s), it doesn't matter to me, nor does it matter to me why you do or don't. I just don't care. All I know is that I'm sailing NCL because they require everyone to have one (among other reasons). Why is this so difficult to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted May 25, 2021 #174 Share Posted May 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, graphicguy said: Geez...I'm just trying to figure out if I should bring a mask with me on my cruise? Since the fully vaccinated don't require masks, I'm assuming no. But, that's an assumption. All the rest? Whether you do or do not have a COVID vaccine(s), it doesn't matter to me, nor does it matter to me why you do or don't. I just don't care. All I know is that I'm sailing NCL because they require everyone to have one (among other reasons). Why is this so difficult to understand? You won't need a mask onboard, but you should definitely bring one/some for your travel to/from the cruise port and for any port stops on the cruise where you will need to adhere to any local mask requirements. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted May 25, 2021 #175 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, JamieLogical said: You won't need a mask onboard, but you should definitely bring one/some for your travel to/from the cruise port and for any port stops on the cruise where you will need to adhere to any local mask requirements. Thanks! Now, if we could just figure out the port where embarkation is happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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