Rare broberts Posted June 8, 2021 #451 Share Posted June 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, sept10dsm said: ... I get how many feel safer being vaccinated but since it doesn't prevent or stop spread who knows. ... (excuse me while I vent) VACCINATION PREVENTS SPREAD OF COVID-19. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackpotter Posted June 8, 2021 #452 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, satxdiver said: Even though we did get the vaccination several months ago, we are seriously considering canceling the cruises with RCL. Do not want to be on any ship that bows to every tinhorn governor. Couldn't agree more.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauraoel Posted June 8, 2021 #453 Share Posted June 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, jerseygirl3 said: That’s because at large sporting events they are separating vaccinated and unvaccinated attendees. And 5 days walking around Universal is way different than being on a ship for 7 days or longer among thousands of people. Only in certain states do the separate the attendees. And again, I don't agree with you but I thank you for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sept10dsm Posted June 8, 2021 #454 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, lovescats5 said: Maybe that positive test came because the person had to fly to get to a ship. Why do the people who object to getting a vaccination made to be the bad people. Even if you have been vaccinated you can get, give the virus. Maybe the un-vaccinated person got it from you. First we should wear a mask, then no mask, then a mask, then 2 masks. AT what time do we hold the government accountable for the dis-information they have been giving since day 1, not to mention the news media. And each day more and more comes out. It's very sad. Many are losing faith in the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackpotter Posted June 8, 2021 #455 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, mauraoel said: Apparently you didn't listen to Mr. Fain latest video, go ahead and check it out I will wait. I read quite a few articles and listen to Science trying to make the best decision for us. Everyone is doing their best to figure this virus out and there are no perfect answers. Don't want to keep you up, so don't wait up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauraoel Posted June 8, 2021 #456 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, jackpotter said: I read quite a few articles and listen to Science trying to make the best decision for us. Everyone is doing their best to figure this virus out and there are no perfect answers. Don't want to keep you up, so don't wait up. So you believe others statements of how Royal Caribbean cruises are going to function over the CEO of the company. Thank you for admitting that you just want something to be upset about. I will enjoy my cruises I hope you find something to enjoy as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted June 8, 2021 #457 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, sept10dsm said: And each day more and more comes out. It's very sad. Many are losing faith in the system Vaccinations prevent the spread of covid-19. I'm not aware of a single completely vaccinated person transmitting the disease. If you have links to documentation of such a case I'd be interested. The only people I know that are losing faith in the system are those predisposed to doing so. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted June 8, 2021 #458 Share Posted June 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, jerseygirl3 said: That’s because at large sporting events they are separating vaccinated and unvaccinated attendees. And 5 days walking around Universal is way different than being on a ship for 7 days or longer among thousands of people. Not the ballparks I have been too. Nobody knows who is what. you people literally pull stuff from thin air.... it must be awesome to be on your side. You don’t need anything but desires, and it is all rainbows and lollipops. woah.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted June 8, 2021 #459 Share Posted June 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, broberts said: Vaccinations prevent the spread of covid-19. I'm not aware of a single completely vaccinated person transmitting the disease. If you have links to documentation of such a case I'd be interested. The only people I know that are losing faith in the system are those predisposed to doing so. Well the science people say it is possible.... so faith is something we all could use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserking Posted June 8, 2021 Author #460 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: Not the ballparks I have been too. Nobody knows who is what. you people literally pull stuff from thin air.... it must be awesome to be on your side. You don’t need anything but desires, and it is all rainbows and lollipops. woah.... Fully Vaccinated Seating areas at Baseball Stadiums Yankee Stadium https://www.mlb.com/yankees/ballpark/information/fully-vaccinated-seating-sections Dodger Stadium https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/tickets/single-game-tickets/vaccination-zone San Francisco Giants - Oracle Park - https://www.mlb.com/giants/tickets/vaccinated-sections Seattle Mariners - https://www.mlb.com/mariners/tickets/single-game-tickets/vaccinated-sections San Diego Padres -https://www.petcoparkinsider.com/vaccinated-section There are no "sides" you get a vaccination to protect yourself from catching a deadly virus, you do it for your community and the world. We're all on the same team. Jonathan Edited June 8, 2021 by cruiserking 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindivan Posted June 8, 2021 #461 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, lovescats5 said: Maybe that positive test came because the person had to fly to get to a ship. Why do the people who object to getting a vaccination made to be the bad people. Even if you have been vaccinated you can get, give the virus. Maybe the un-vaccinated person got it from you. First we should wear a mask, then no mask, then a mask, then 2 masks. AT what time do we hold the government accountable for the dis-information they have been giving since day 1, not to mention the news media. Can you provide a peer reviewed study that shows that vaccinated people have been contagious and given the virus? Probably not. I don’t think it’s a known factor either way. Studies have shown vaccinated people who do get the virus are typically asymptotic and usually only discover they are positive because of required asymptomatic testing for a job, college, etc. Either way, to state vaccinated people who do get covid can be contagious and give the virus to others *might* be true. Maybe not. Odds are certainly lower. Lots of disinformation both ways. Edited June 8, 2021 by cindivan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindivan Posted June 8, 2021 #462 Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Colorado Babe said: I hope folks who state they-will cancel will start soon especially those in suites so we can book some more cruises soon. Check out cruises a few days before final payment is due. That’s when we will make our decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovescats5 Posted June 8, 2021 #463 Share Posted June 8, 2021 No sites, but why then did CDC say even though you are vaccinated you need to wear a mask because you can still get Covid and it is possible to it is possible infect someone. The huge problem I see is that the all the information changes daily as did Fauci"s stand on masks. It is hard to know who to believe or disbelieve. After so many turn arounds from the Administration I certainly do not believe them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted June 8, 2021 #464 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 3:55 PM, Kokomo91165 said: This is a safety issue, not a human rights or liberties issue. My right to be safe and enjoy a vacation should not be trumped by people refusing to get vaccinated and wanting the same treatment as those that are. This is a bait and switch. We all booked cruises under the policy of vaccines. Now they just decide to change it? Irresponsible and unconscionable. WOW.......52 LIKES so far. That is the most LIKES I've seen for any post. Congrats @Kokomo91165 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted June 8, 2021 #465 Share Posted June 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, lovescats5 said: No sites, but why then did CDC say even though you are vaccinated you need to wear a mask because you can still get Covid and it is possible to it is possible infect someone. The huge problem I see is that the all the information changes daily as did Fauci"s stand on masks. It is hard to know who to believe or disbelieve. After so many turn arounds from the Administration I certainly do not believe them. The most recent guidance from the CDC does not say that. In fact almost the opposite. It is obviously difficult for you to accept that advice may have to change as new data is collected. But this is how science advances. Chosing to reject new data and any advice that results seems foolish to me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenouille21 Posted June 8, 2021 #466 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 2:25 PM, cruiserking said: Thoroughly disgusted by Royal Caribbean's latest decision not to require vaccinations. Just curious how many people Royal can expect to cancel their cruises in the near future if the this dangerous policy stays in place. Jonathan I will not book Royal again, and I will let anyone and everyone who is anyone at Royal Caribbean know why. I am also insisting on a refund for all of the FCC I have accumulated, and will dispute credit card charges if they refuse. I will get my money back one way or another. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpletequila Posted June 8, 2021 #467 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 3:40 PM, Kalousdi said: I am vaccinated and more than comfortable going on a ship that has unvaccinated people on it. I think more than enough people are comfortable and ready to cruise again. If you are not comfortable then you should not be going and choose another line that works for you. That’s all good and well but how about the people who live on these islands the ships visit? Do you think they’ll appreciate potentially thousands of unvaccinated foreigners possibly spreading infection? Most of these places don’t have the resources to deal with such outbreaks. RC’s decision is crazy. Outrageous really. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpletequila Posted June 8, 2021 #468 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 4:09 PM, orville99 said: We will continue to cruise regardless. Y'all are welcome to stay home if you don't want to cruise. Your choice is entirely yours and yours alone. The arrogance of this ^ though. I really hope ports refuse to accept RC ships and other lines’ ships if they don’t require full vaccination. These islands don’t need us showing up, spreading a potentially deadly virus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satxdiver Posted June 8, 2021 #469 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Some vaccinated people do get the virus as it is 90+% effective meaning there is room to get infected which has been already found to be true. nationalinterest.org/blog/coronavirus/cdc-fewer-6000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-contracted-coronavirus-183276 https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210417/The-shock-and-reality-of-catching-Covid-after-being-vaccinated.aspx https://abc7news.com/sonoma-county-california-covid-testing-vaccine/10513618/ There are other websites reporting vaccinated people being infected by the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am cruising Posted June 8, 2021 #470 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I definitely think the majority of people will have the vaccination anyway as most adults have but there will be ones who don't have it.... and my family and I are 100% cool with it. What we would not be cool with is still having to socialising distance and wear masks. getting the vaccine should mean we don't need to do those things. Children shouldn't need to get the vaccine so I really am pleased if Royal Caribbean stick with this. I do believe other cruise lines will now follow with this. there just needed to be the one to start it. Bring on the cruise experience we all know and love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am cruising Posted June 8, 2021 #471 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 9:11 PM, wingatesl said: The vaccination status of others will not affect my choice to cruise. The only reason the coronavirus affected it is because they were shut down. exactly.... when I am on a cruise I am there to enjoy every minute of it... why would I be thinking about whether someone has the vaccine or not.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgotmyCCname Posted June 8, 2021 #472 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) On 6/6/2021 at 9:01 PM, sept10dsm said: The box they come in say they are experimental Edited June 8, 2021 by forgotmyCCname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am cruising Posted June 8, 2021 #473 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 1:37 AM, Justmekaren918 said: I didn't realize Royal is such a chicken! I'm throughly disgusted Royal caved & I want my full money back for my Jewel sailing! It was booked with the fact the whole ship would be 97% Vax! Anyone called yet? I dont think Royal are "chickens" I think they were brave to be the ones to do what makes sense. we can't keep living our lives in fear. They are a business and they are trying to make ends meet and I think they are correct to give everyone a chance to go on a cruise should they wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am cruising Posted June 8, 2021 #474 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 3:17 AM, Heymarco said: Several people were saying those who don’t want a vaccine don’t have to cruise and can wait. It’s funny seeing the sides now reversed. Sadly, still no empathy. Wish would could just respect each other’s decisions, understand life always carries some risk, and move on. -Vaxed but believe it should remain an unrestricted choice. absolutely 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkdreams Posted June 8, 2021 #475 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I have been booking more royal cruises ever since I heard the news. GO ROYAL!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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