Rare A&L_Ont Posted July 14, 2021 #126 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, billslowsky said: You think that a crew member on a months' long contract would rather have Philippine currency - which they can spend virtually nowhere - instead of a US $2 bill which they could spend on the ship, or in any US port? People send money home electronically, not in a shoebox. I think they’d sooner take what she is giving over and above prepaid tips, compared to zero extra that others are giving. If they crew don’t like it, which I highly doubt, they can turn it down no matter the currency. Edited July 14, 2021 by A&L_Ont 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #127 Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 hours ago, 3kidsncats said: And they can spend it, when they are home…..without having to pay a currency exchange fee. Change sitting in a box for months, maybe a year, compared to a $2 bill they can spend in port within a week. Who wouldn't choose that? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted July 14, 2021 #128 Share Posted July 14, 2021 17 hours ago, Tree_skier said: It still strikes me as odd when I have to sign a credit card slip or when a server at a restaurant takes my card away and then brings it back having run through. I love the mobile devices that every restaurant in Canada uses. Your card is never out of your possesion. What I have been seeing with great regularity in the Dallas area the last 9 months or so is the dining bill arrives at the table and has a QR code at the bottom. Scan the code, pay with Apple Pay (or other preferred service) and walk out. I LOVE IT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3kidsncats Posted July 14, 2021 #129 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 hours ago, billslowsky said: Change sitting in a box for months, maybe a year, compared to a $2 bill they can spend in port within a week. Who wouldn't choose that? LOL Um, what port is going to accept the $2 bill? You kind of keep missing that point — the $2 bills are not spendable outside of the US, and barely spendable inside. Plus, who is going to say “no, I don’t want EXTRA cash from my home country, in ADDITION to the US$ tip”? For the third time, I’ve clearly stated that I will be offering the pesos (and nowhere did I say “change” — we have roughly the value of US$40 cash in pesos the promoter provided that we didn’t use) AND the actual tip (which would be above and beyond the prepaid gratuities I already paid). So, do you think any crew member would choose your $2 bill over a tip in US$ and a few thousand pesos? I doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #130 Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, 3kidsncats said: Um, what port is going to accept the $2 bill? You kind of keep missing that point — the $2 bills are not spendable outside of the US, and barely spendable inside. Plus, who is going to say “no, I don’t want EXTRA cash from my home country, in ADDITION to the US$ tip”? For the third time, I’ve clearly stated that I will be offering the pesos (and nowhere did I say “change” — we have roughly the value of US$40 cash in pesos the promoter provided that we didn’t use) AND the actual tip (which would be above and beyond the prepaid gratuities I already paid). So, do you think any crew member would choose your $2 bill over a tip in US$ and a few thousand pesos? I doubt it. What you "clearly stated" was "Generally we don’t add additional tips to the automatic gratuity we’ve already paid." But if you like a bartender, you're going to give him Philippine pesos. And your opinion of Philippine pesos, "Been sitting in a drawer not doing us any good, may as well pass them along in addition to US$." How heartfelt of you. I'm sure that crew members who will never set foot anywhere near the Philippines would covet your pesos. Which is most of them. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #131 Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, 3kidsncats said: Your comment “which is most of them” is a very clear indication that you pay very little attention to the people around you. There are many Filipinos working onboard every single ship we’ve ever sailed on. Are you claiming that most crew members are from the Philippines? By all means back that one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Itchy&Scratchy Posted July 14, 2021 #132 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, billslowsky said: Are you claiming that most crew members are from the Philippines? By all means back that one up. are you claiming that she won't be assisted by a single Filipino staff member on her cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc1025 Posted July 14, 2021 #133 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3kidsncats Posted July 14, 2021 #134 Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, billslowsky said: Are you claiming that most crew members are from the Philippines? By all means back that one up. Only if your reading comprehension skills lead you to believe that the word “many” has the same definition as “most” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted July 14, 2021 #135 Share Posted July 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, billslowsky said: Are you claiming that most crew members are from the Philippines? By all means back that one up. The most recent audit I could find was from 2018, states 60% of RCG crew worldwide were from the Philippines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyCruiserUK Posted July 14, 2021 #136 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Back to the OP, for me depends on the service i am getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #137 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: The most recent audit I could find was from 2018, states 60% of RCG crew worldwide were from the Philippines Right, you can't back it up. "Cite" some vague document... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #138 Share Posted July 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Itchy&Scratchy said: are you claiming that she won't be assisted by a single Filipino staff member on her cruise? Nothing of the sort. By all means, connect the dots to where I said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #139 Share Posted July 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, 3kidsncats said: Only if your reading comprehension skills lead you to believe that the word “many” has the same definition as “most” Read what you wrote. You claimed that, not me. "Your comment “which is most of them” is a very clear indication that you pay very little attention to the people around you. There are many Filipinos working onboard every single ship we’ve ever sailed on. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3kidsncats Posted July 14, 2021 #140 Share Posted July 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: The most recent audit I could find was from 2018, states 60% of RCG crew worldwide were from the Philippines I think that supports my comment that there are MANY Filipinos onboard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted July 14, 2021 #141 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, billslowsky said: Right, you can't back it up. "Cite" some vague document... https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/audio/why-cruise-lines-employ-many-filipino-crew google is your friend. Actually this is no surprise, and is very common knowledge that the majority of crew are Filipino, this fact was driven home recently when the ships began restaffing, it was obvious where people were coming from. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted July 14, 2021 #142 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/audio/why-cruise-lines-employ-many-filipino-crew google is your friend. Actually this is no surprise, and is very common knowledge that the majority of crew are Filipino, this fact was driven home recently when the ships began restaffing, it was obvious where people were coming from. First it was an audit, now it's a Filipino radio website interviewing the hotel director. You know the guy in charge of housekeeping, not waiters or bartenders who are about to showered with Philippine pesos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SireDoime Posted July 15, 2021 #143 Share Posted July 15, 2021 No. Frankly, I wish I could live in a country where tipping is not a thing. The employers should just pay their employees more, so we don't have to, or in many cases need to tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelling2Some Posted July 15, 2021 #144 Share Posted July 15, 2021 We have been tipping extra on land lately because (1) hospitality staff has been hard hit by the pandemic and many live paycheck to paycheck and (2) we respect people who work rather than sponge off the taxpayers. I'm sure we will feel the same way onboard. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SireDoime Posted July 15, 2021 #145 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) As it stands, tips are either a fare inclusive option, just included, or at your leisure. My vacations on a cruise ship are about me, so I don't want to hand out more money to the crew; the rare exception is stellar service. My first two cruises had tips included with the fare. I assumed that meant that any and all crew I encountered in service capacity was tipped by me based on my Class level. On Celebrity Equinox & Infinity I was inConcierge & AquaClass, so my tips were about 15% to 18% a day, and I think per crew or shared, I'm not sure. But when I was in the Spa and Art Gallery they mentioned adding an optional tip to the final invoice, but I thought it was included. I was later told only Stateroom Attendants, the Bar, Restaurants, and Casino get the tip, all others have to given at will. I didn't tip the Spa ladies (because I thought it was included), but I did tip the Art Gallery guy. I have a reservation with Regent next year and the tips are included shipwide; this is the way all lines should do it, if they "include the tip" in the fare. I didn't like having to give out additional tips on Celebrity, which was never and still never "fully inclusive". I suppose if you don't have the inclusive option, then what you give (more or the same) is personal. I gave my Stateroom Attendant and Dining Room guy 20$ each, and was told it wasn't needed. But, I wanted to. Edited July 15, 2021 by SireDoime erratta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtihk Posted July 15, 2021 #146 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SireDoime said: No. Frankly, I wish I could live in a country where tipping is not a thing. The employers should just pay their employees more, so we don't have to, or in many cases need to tip. The whole “tip” entity in the US is pointless and absolite. Who invented it and for what reason? You agree to pay for whatever you are offered (the price must include everything in the offer, period), and that’s it. My German friend went to the Manhattan restaurant and ordered a $300 wine (besides the diner). He was not allowed to leave without paying 20% tip for that bottle on top of 20% tip for the rest of his order. He asked - “why? what’s the difference for a service person between opening that bottle versus $40 bottle?” I told him - “welcome to America”. Does anyone have a real answer? Edited July 15, 2021 by kirtihk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramja96 Posted July 15, 2021 #147 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 10:46 AM, orville99 said: Nope. I'm on hold with c&a trying to get almost $10,000 back for cruises they cancelled. Should I just tell them to keep it all to support their families because they have been shut down for 16 months. This answer is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard. One has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the other. Corporate has your money, not the crew. If that concept is beyond your grasp of comprehension, then I give up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramja96 Posted July 15, 2021 #148 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 10:46 AM, dominicr said: Which goes to government incompetence. Cruising should not of been shut down for 15 months putting people out of work. That’s not my fault and it’s not my problem. If you want to give your money away and buy into socialistic behavior then more power to you. I will continue to tip well and reward good service. I’d the service is standard then it’s a standard tip. every year people do their taxes. That’s just a minimum amount due. Nothing says you can’t pay more than that. Do you give the government more of your money? Socialistic behavior??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You crack me up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted July 15, 2021 #149 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ramja96 said: This answer is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard. One has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the other. Corporate has your money, not the crew. If that concept is beyond your grasp of comprehension, then I give up. Bye Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted July 15, 2021 #150 Share Posted July 15, 2021 10 hours ago, kirtihk said: The whole “tip” entity in the US is pointless and absolite. Who invented it and for what reason? You agree to pay for whatever you are offered (the price must include everything in the offer, period), and that’s it. My German friend went to the Manhattan restaurant and ordered a $300 wine (besides the diner). He was not allowed to leave without paying 20% tip for that bottle on top of 20% tip for the rest of his order. He asked - “why? what’s the difference for a service person between opening that bottle versus $40 bottle?” I told him - “welcome to America”. Does anyone have a real answer? Your friend was either taken advantage of, or their story is completely fabricated. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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