Carnival stock and onboard credit! :(

[Old Fart Cruisers]

On 10/15/2021 at 9:10 AM, DGP1111 said:

My most recent shareholder credit request was also denied.  It was not a casino rate, or a VIFP special offer, but just on the main web site available to anyone. Carnival has recently posted some close-in bookings that offered a break to solo passengers that didn't result in a 200% fare.  They deem this as a discounted rate, and therefore not eligible for shareholder benefit. 

It is what it is. 

 

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What is the difference between a discounted rate and  just a good sale?   

 

We recently had free casino offers approved.  And it was even more than I expected.  We have a B2B coming up in January (8day & 6day).  I expected $100 & $50, but it was combined as a 14day for $250 and broken up $100 on the 8day (first leg) & $150 on the 6day.  I guess the reasoning could be if the they payed the higher amount on the first leg and the second part was cancelled they wouldn't be paying out an extra bonus.  

[DGP1111]

57 minutes ago, Old Fart Cruisers said:

What is the difference between a discounted rate and  just a good sale?   

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I wish I had a quality answer for ya, but I don't.

This was the first time ever I've had my request denied, so there was some surprise and disappointment . . . but the overall price/savings was really good, so I simply accept it as "their rules". 😉

 

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[vwrestler171]

I would say if you have a casino offer, you probably will get denied going forward.  The shareholders benefit has always said that promo rates would not get the benefit and I'm guessing when they were doing well financially, they didn't care, but now that they are hurting financially, it makes sense to enforce the rule.

[IntrepidFromDC]

Thanks everyone for sharing about recent denials.  Now if it happens to me I won't be so disappointed and surprised.  Still I wonder if they're cherry-picking.  We tend to spend $2.5k to $4k onboard each 7-day cruise and I wonder if they might be denying for people who don't spend enough of their own money onboard (in Carnival's eyes)?

[Colorado Beach Bum]

In the last month we received one shareholder benefit and we’re denied the other and both were on casino discounted rates.  I get the rules, but not the inconsistencies for our two cruises and all the post above. 

[vwrestler171]

16 hours ago, IntrepidFromDC said:

Thanks everyone for sharing about recent denials.  Now if it happens to me I won't be so disappointed and surprised.  Still I wonder if they're cherry-picking.  We tend to spend $2.5k to $4k onboard each 7-day cruise and I wonder if they might be denying for people who don't spend enough of their own money onboard (in Carnival's eyes)?

If you didn't spend enough money, you wouldn't be getting those deals for discounted rates.

[xDisconnections]

Looks like they are starting to adhere to the terms and conditions. Only a matter of time before these onboard credits can no longer be used towards gratuities, casino and gift card purchases as per the rules.

[vwrestler171]

1 hour ago, xDisconnections said:

Looks like they are starting to adhere to the terms and conditions. Only a matter of time before these onboard credits can no longer be used towards gratuities, casino and gift card purchases as per the rules.

I think they already stopped OBC being used for gift cards.  As far as the casino, I doubt they will ever do that as the casino is a cheap way for them to get the OBC back.

[xDisconnections]

1 minute ago, vwrestler171 said:

I think they already stopped OBC being used for gift cards.  As far as the casino, I doubt they will ever do that as the casino is a cheap way for them to get the OBC back.

Not at Cherry on Top.

[BlerkOne]

Carnival is actually starting to let some OBC be used prior to the cruise.

[Old Fart Cruisers]

1 minute ago, BlerkOne said:

Carnival is actually starting to let some OBC be used prior to the cruise.

Any examples?

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, Old Fart Cruisers said:

Any examples?

[vwrestler171]

1 hour ago, BlerkOne said:

I've seen that, but no one has been able to use the OBC yet.

[BlerkOne]

On 10/16/2021 at 7:41 PM, Old Fart Cruisers said:

What is the difference between a discounted rate and  just a good sale?   

 

 

A discounted rate is a promotional rate not available to everyone. They don't necessarily have anything to do with status, how much you spend, etc.

[EZ1]

following

[BlerkOne]

On 10/17/2021 at 9:02 PM, vwrestler171 said:

I've seen that, but no one has been able to use the OBC yet.

We've got the Heald on it.

[ninjacat123]

On 10/15/2021 at 11:14 AM, Mud_Shark said:

New to Carnival.  How can you tell when the Shareholder request has been approved or not?  How can you view the OBC on the cruise planner?  I can't seem to locate any reference to it and I did not receive any email about our shareholder request - but I actually mailed the request in the old fashioned way.

 

Thanks

Don

You need to have your Cruise Planner open, then copy and paste this link in your browser. Replace ABC123 with your booking number.  Press Enter:

https://www.carnival.com/booked/document?BookingNumber=ABC123&IsPrintLuggageTagsSelected=true&IsPrintPassFlightSelected=false&IsPrintCruiseInfoSelected=true

Your Booking Summary should appear.  Cursor down to Itemized Charges and any OBC should show below the sentence "All prices quoted in USD"

Hope that helps!

[Mud_Shark]

26 minutes ago, ninjacat123 said:

You need to have your Cruise Planner open, then copy and paste this link in your browser. Replace ABC123 with your booking number.  Press Enter:

https://www.carnival.com/booked/document?BookingNumber=ABC123&IsPrintLuggageTagsSelected=true&IsPrintPassFlightSelected=false&IsPrintCruiseInfoSelected=true

Your Booking Summary should appear.  Cursor down to Itemized Charges and any OBC should show below the sentence "All prices quoted in USD"

Hope that helps!

Thank youninja cat, that does help, but unfortunately, no OBC listed, just my pre-cruise purchases.  It's been over a month, so I will email in the request this time and see if we get any action.

 

Don

[wesorbeth]

We were denied today, I am not going to sweat it.  I just want to get onboard!

[zzdoug]

As a shareholder, albeit a small one, I'm seriously beginning to get concerned about Carnival going into bankruptcy. I'm on the Vista this week and many if not most of the people aboard have been cruising for port fees and folks seem to have tons of onboard credit, meaning there are limited upsell opportunities. The debt refinance this week should help but the coast is not clear. As an owner I'd prefer not giving out perks to other owners right now such as OBC or dividend payments until the ship is righted again, as it were, and the company is once again profitable.

[ontheweb]

24 minutes ago, zzdoug said:

As a shareholder, albeit a small one, I'm seriously beginning to get concerned about Carnival going into bankruptcy. I'm on the Vista this week and many if not most of the people aboard have been cruising for port fees and folks seem to have tons of onboard credit, meaning there are limited upsell opportunities. The debt refinance this week should help but the coast is not clear. As an owner I'd prefer not giving out perks to other owners right now such as OBC or dividend payments until the ship is righted again, as it were, and the company is once again profitable.

Dividends come out of profits, so it will be a long while until they appear again. OTOH, the shareholder OBC is a marketing tool that costs the corporation almost nothing. Taking it away will only lead to bad will among some potential customers.

[wesorbeth]

I was mildly irritated, I did not book on a special offer it was a sale. 

[EZ1]

13 hours ago, zzdoug said:

As a shareholder, albeit a small one, I'm seriously beginning to get concerned about Carnival going into bankruptcy. I'm on the Vista this week and many if not most of the people aboard have been cruising for port fees and folks seem to have tons of onboard credit, meaning there are limited upsell opportunities. The debt refinance this week should help but the coast is not clear. As an owner I'd prefer not giving out perks to other owners right now such as OBC or dividend payments until the ship is righted again, as it were, and the company is once again profitable.

Many people will be sailing with their $600 onboard credit that they got when they rebooked from their COVID cancelled cruise.

[Mud_Shark]

So we got our rejection email today, 6 days before sailing.  Apparently our "special rate" does not qualify.  We did not get a free nor almost free cruise, though I do think the rate we paid was lower than it would have been in a non-COVID environment.

 

We have Zero OBC as our cancelled COVID cruises were with HAL and Princess.  Oh well, it was just going to be discretionary money to waste in some fashion onboard anyway.  But not sure what this bodes for the future, as there is very little chance of a dividend or huge uptick in the stock value. Many of us hold these shares simply for this OBC benefit.  If it is being reserved only for full price fares, is it worth it to retain the stock?

 

Don

[BlerkOne]

Received shareholder OBC for my next cruise a couple days ago. It took about a week to process. I would gladly give it back for a seriously discounted price on the cruise.

Edited October 26, 2021 by BlerkOne