WonderMan3 Posted April 25, 2022 #101 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I have to say I'm impressed with what I'm seeing. They definitely improved on a number of the issues people complained about on Edge. Even the furniture has gotten better and more functional in the cabins. A number of the suites' design and location (small balconies, under big overhang) issues still exist but I think those weren't really fixable based on the current E-class layout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dateacher Posted April 25, 2022 #102 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, asnaleah said: So far, I’m sticking with Silhouette and her fabulous balconies with useable furniture, unless it’s a port intensive cruise. The Sunset Bar looks lovely. Not sure how I feel about the fee for small bites though. Would hate to go back to feeling nickel-and-dimed. Thanks so much for your informative posts Chris! Agree, not sure why they are charging for that food. We normally bring food up from the buffet when we go to the Sunset Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted April 25, 2022 #103 Share Posted April 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, dateacher said: Agree, not sure why they are charging for that food. We normally bring food up from the buffet when we go to the Sunset Bar. kind of devalues the concept of all inclusive, huh? It is a business and they have to pick and choose on these issues. You and I can stll stop by the buffett to get stuff. I also have been known to get a burger or hot dog at mast grill and saunter over to sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted April 25, 2022 #104 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just remembered a question. I read somewhere that Beyond was introducing a Princess medallion type of electronic device. Any sign of it? Not that the medallion is without critisim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMan3 Posted April 26, 2022 #105 Share Posted April 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, HMR74 said: kind of devalues the concept of all inclusive, huh? It is a business and they have to pick and choose on these issues. You and I can stll stop by the buffett to get stuff. I also have been known to get a burger or hot dog at mast grill and saunter over to sunset. When has the Sunset Bar included free food on the other ships though? This is basically like a specialty restaurant experience or the gelato booth. It's not like something is being taken away or now charged when it was free before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieq Posted April 26, 2022 #106 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Did they make any changes to the martini bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapelgirl62 Posted April 26, 2022 #107 Share Posted April 26, 2022 My daughter is lucky enough to be onboard now for a press/trade event before passengers tomorrow & her description of ship is “insane” the weather is beautiful in Southampton & ship looks amazing 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #108 Share Posted April 26, 2022 11 hours ago, HMR74 said: Just remembered a question. I read somewhere that Beyond was introducing a Princess medallion type of electronic device. Any sign of it? Not that the medallion is without critisim. Nothing like that yet. You can use your phone to control the cabin lighting and such but that's not new. You can use to open your door. But no wearable tech. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #109 Share Posted April 26, 2022 10 hours ago, maggieq said: Did they make any changes to the martini bar? Martini Bar is now in the center of the Grand Atrium instead of at one end. Much better for views of the bartenders and chandelier. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #110 Share Posted April 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Cruise a holic said: Do they still deal with Park West Galleries? Yep, they are still onboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #111 Share Posted April 26, 2022 So a few smoking areas I found. There's an enclave up from the Resort Deck, and also one of the cantilevered areas at the Sunset Bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #112 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Shaded areas in the Retreat: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #113 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Oceanview Bar does not extend outside but of course you can bring drinks there or order. Another photo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #114 Share Posted April 26, 2022 New menu and concept in Eden. Cornelius Gallagher, who earned a Michelin star in his chef days, has made this his baby now. Gone are the "elements" menu and the Edenists. Cover is $55. i liked it, a lot. The food was gorgeous and really nice ingredients. Loved the portions - not too much and I left satisfied but not uncomfy (like I do after Fine Cut). But I'm not sure it's a must? I am going to Le Voyage tonight and I think that will determine for me what meal you'd want to splurge on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted April 26, 2022 Author Members #115 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I think my biggest issue with the cabins is that all of Deck 12 balconies are essentially in the shade, with the expansion/overhang. My sister is in a Deck 12 Sky Suite this summer and I took a look at it. I advised her to change, as she likes to read on the sun on her balcony. It's also not a given that your Sky Suite bed will face the window. So you'll want to ask your agent or representative about that when booking. This is Sky Suite 12176. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted April 26, 2022 #116 Share Posted April 26, 2022 12176 is a magic carpet suite. Thats probably the reason for a different configuration. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted April 26, 2022 #117 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Judging from the Aqua Suite, the balcony table is still ridiculous, but the table in the room looks a little better, although it’s tough to get the perspective from the pictures. Not sure why this is so hard to figure out🙄. mac_tlc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakigemcam Posted April 26, 2022 #118 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Is Bennett from Silhouette on the entertainment team on Beyond? thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted April 26, 2022 #119 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Cruise Critic Chris said: Oceanview Bar does not extend outside but of course you can bring drinks there or order. Another photo. They definitely heard and responded to criticism that the E-Class doesn't have enough bars to sit,drink and chat and enjoy the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted April 26, 2022 #120 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cruise Critic Chris said: Oceanview Bar does not extend outside but of course you can bring drinks there or order. Another photo. Thanks for the oceanview bar pic. The difference is the area outside the bar is smaller than Edge, and does not afford a true panoramic view. On S class one of my fav places, when alone, was the outdoor oceanview bar, covered. on the back side looking out, joking with bartenders and they were great!. I'll just get a chair at a table at the new one. I see pluses and minuses , mostly pluses. There is a limit to what can be done and the trade offs. One plus is the bar chairs are chairs, not stools. Perhaps I can find a similar spot at Sunset. Edited April 26, 2022 by HMR74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-n-MeMe Posted April 26, 2022 #121 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Cruise Critic Chris said: So a few smoking areas I found. There's an enclave up from the Resort Deck, and also one of the cantilevered areas at the Sunset Bar. Thank you so much for all the great photos and descriptions! Are these smoking areas Port or Starboard? Thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tyler414 Posted April 26, 2022 #122 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rick-n-MeMe said: Thank you so much for all the great photos and descriptions! Are these smoking areas Port or Starboard? Thx! They are both Starboard. I'm pretty sure all E-class have the same 3 areas for smoking, Deck 15 starboard near pool bar, Deck 15 starboard near Sunset bar and Deck 5 port side near Eden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapelgirl62 Posted April 26, 2022 #123 Share Posted April 26, 2022 My daughter is onboard at present on press launch & says its “insane” - likes the balcony feature (in a concierge cabin) as gives so much light/space in cabin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted April 26, 2022 #124 Share Posted April 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Whitechapelgirl62 said: My daughter is onboard at present on press launch & says its “insane” - likes the balcony feature (in a concierge cabin) as gives so much light/space in cabin. The cabin picture of the bed includes the area above the bed and it appears ther are two HVAC outlets there. I wonder if, since the ship was built after covid started, they did a change on the fly for more recirculation. Anybody have a recollection of how thats done on Apex or edge? Certainly more than S class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani negreanu Posted April 26, 2022 #125 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Personally, I'm glad that some of the concierge class "balconies" are in the shade. I wonder if you can see if #12210 has the bed by the "balcony", and it is in the shade, thanks 🌷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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