Any Reports of Covid Issues on Carnival sailings?

[DGNewton]

5 hours ago, Old Fart Cruisers said:

 

This is ONE old study, done before any of the newer variants, but if you read your study you will see that your odds of being infected increase with every touch.

 

. . . .generally less than 1 in 10,000, which means that each contact with a contaminated surface has less than a 1 in 10,000 chance of causing an infection. . .

 

So according to this old study, done on the much less transmissible variant, if you touch a surface ONE TIME you have a less than 1 in 10,000 chance, but every time you touch that item or any item you chances increase. 

It's the sneezing and coughing for some of the careless people in elevators, halls, rooms, etc or just around you with no thought of caring - while these are now the majority, there were enough of them witnessed first hand on the trips I've been on.

Many times I've walked out of elevators once parole like that got in, or wouldn't get on.  Just saying.

Yes, you have a chance of getting covid on the ship and it is more confined.  You must make your own space.  The cruise line does nothing once you're all loaded on board.

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[cruisingguy007]

2 hours ago, jeb2791 said:

Sailed Celebrity last July.   Celebrity CHOOSES to share covid-positive case numbers with guests and actively encourages you to see medical help from their staff if you are feeling unwell.  Their social media in the past year has focused on upgraded medical facilities and staff.   Carnival chooses to NOT share their numbers or  actively encourage people to seek medical attention and generally acts as though there is no issue unless pressed by a federal agency.   I got off Mardi Gras with a head cold in April that turned out to be covid.  I did not wear a mask but there were people on board wearing them indoors throughout the entire cruise.  No regrets.  Being boosted helped.  My cabinmate who drove 9 hours home with me and my "cold"  never got covid.  

 

Is there a statistical difference between the two results of each line? If not, what difference does it make?

[Hoosierpop]

There is always a chance of getting some virus on a cruise ship. Covid is no different. So everyone needs to take whatever precautions they deem necessary given their risk factors. If people want a zero chance of getting the virus, don’t go. Depending on a cruise line or other passengers to keep you from getting a virus is not a good strategy. 

[Pellaz]

On 5/1/2022 at 12:34 PM, BlerkOne said:

and this was from last year, before the more transmissible Delta and Omincron variants appeared.

 

True.  Are you accusing CDC of ignoring the Delta and Omicron variants on this critical transmission vector?  After all, this is the most recent CDC study of fomite transmission, and surely they'd update the results or commission a new study if the new variants warranted it, out of due diligence and concern for public safety.  

 

OR, could it be that the newer variants are "more transmissible" only through aerosol contact (inhaling) and not through fomite contact?  

[Pellaz]

On 5/1/2022 at 1:25 PM, Old Fart Cruisers said:

 

This is ONE old study, done before any of the newer variants, but if you read your study you will see that your odds of being infected increase with every touch.

 

. . . .generally less than 1 in 10,000, which means that each contact with a contaminated surface has less than a 1 in 10,000 chance of causing an infection. . .

 

So according to this old study, done on the much less transmissible variant, if you touch a surface ONE TIME you have a less than 1 in 10,000 chance, but every time you touch that item or any item you chances increase. 

 

Correct.  As I stated in my response to BlerkOne, wouldn't you think CDC would revise their guidance regarding fomite transmission after the rise of the newer variants, IF the new variants warranted it?    After all, they have our public safety as a sacred trust.   OR, could it be that the newer variants do not show any enhanced chance of fomite (surface-only) transmission over the prior variants?

[IslandHppy]

I am thinking aloud if on a short Mexico /Islands run if one can avoid the crowded indoor venues and mostly be outdoors.  I think there is a poolside version of every meal?  Cabins have individual air sources.  The reports on the newest variants suggest more aerosols = smaller droplets.  A recent heavily reviewed study said loud  talking and singing were not the best.   The whole idea is to enjoy the open air and sea.  I live in a place where the weather is on average worse than Siberia.

 

[pe4all]

I am sure that we will be one of the few wearing masks indoors on our upcoming June cruise if covid doesn't settle down again.   We made it through our last 2 winter cruises "healthy" and plan to do the same for this one.  Did not eat in the dining room - took our meals(mostly from buffet, sushi or seafood shack) outdoors to eat.  It was quite pleasant actually.  Really did not miss eating in the dining room, which surprised us.  Wore masks in shows, casino, etc.  Stayed out of elevators as much as possible, which is what we normally do anyway. Constant hand sanitizer. Dh is not thrilled about going (he has not cruised since 2019) but we are triple celebrating dd's birthday, our 39th wedding anniversary and dd and my Diamond cruise.

[bucfan2]

8 minutes ago, pe4all said:

I am sure that we will be one of the few wearing masks indoors on our upcoming June cruise if covid doesn't settle down again.   

Indeed you will, and that's ok...people don't judge with the current approved protocols in place.  Enjoy your cruise.

[pe4all]

1 hour ago, bucfan2 said:

Indeed you will, and that's ok...people don't judge with the current approved protocols in place.  Enjoy your cruise.

Most undoubtedly will - thank you!

 

[silversneakers]

1 hour ago, pe4all said:

I am sure that we will be one of the few wearing masks indoors on our upcoming June cruise if covid doesn't settle down again.   We made it through our last 2 winter cruises "healthy" and plan to do the same for this one.  Did not eat in the dining room - took our meals(mostly from buffet, sushi or seafood shack) outdoors to eat.  It was quite pleasant actually.  Really did not miss eating in the dining room, which surprised us.  Wore masks in shows, casino, etc.  Stayed out of elevators as much as possible, which is what we normally do anyway. Constant hand sanitizer. Dh is not thrilled about going (he has not cruised since 2019) but we are triple celebrating dd's birthday, our 39th wedding anniversary and dd and my Diamond cruise.

I believe masks only help you mentally, otherwise the mask mandate would be instituted on cruise ships but it has not been reinstituted.

[IslandHppy]

Masks esp. N95 are still good for reducing incoming and outgoing person to person viral loads.  I just read some new studies - there are few/none promoting successful surface transmission.  The Chinese hospitals love the idea but still cannot prove it.   Mask mandates as part of a prevention strategy are unpopular so are a last resort.  Trying a science project soon - can we stay safe at sea - $40 a day was too good to pass up 🙂