Rare Kellie in Texas Posted February 17, 2023 #1101 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, little britain said: Can’t answer that but wish they were! One of my favourite cities and itineraries up to Skagen & Aarhus etc! We cruised Serenade from Copenhagen in June 2016, including St. Petersburg (totally understand why SP is no longer included). One of my favorite parts was sailing through the archipelago into Stockholm. All those little islands were amazing to see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser24 Posted February 17, 2023 #1102 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: Also not yet mentioned: Limassol/Haifa cruises in 2024 seem to have been omitted. But actually according to Limassol cruise schedule Jewel of the seas will do these cruises but they start in August in contrast of May in 2023 with Rhapsody ots. Summer/Fall 2024 17/08/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 24/08/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 31/08/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 07/09/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 14/09/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 21/09/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 28/09/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 05/10/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes 12/10/2024 Jewel of the seas Limassol from Santorini to Rhodes We are booked on the Jewel Arctic Circle cruise, Aug 10-22, 2024. Something’s wrong somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummmerInKefalonia Posted February 17, 2023 #1103 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cruiser24 said: We are booked on the Jewel Arctic Circle cruise, Aug 10-22, 2024. Something’s wrong somewhere! It's easy for them to send the usual email: We regret to inform you that due to a ship redeployment, your voyage xxx is cancelled. And then they offer the refund or alternatives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted February 17, 2023 #1104 Share Posted February 17, 2023 17 hours ago, springaussie said: Very possible if China still have the money investment in Wonder. And I wonder (bad pun) if Utopia would be more similar to Harmony and Symphony or would it be built like Wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruiselvr04 Posted February 17, 2023 #1105 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I’d like a transatlantic in fall of 2024 with an interesting B2B before it. I only see Adventure and Voyager right now with no other itineraries for a B2B. Is Adventure going over to get work done and then coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted February 17, 2023 #1106 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Biker19 said: Most home porting decisions are likely $ based. Have you looked at the rates Royal Is currently requesting for Northern Europe 2023 and 2024? This is much more than any US (Caribbean, Alaska or Northeast) deployment can bring into their pocket. Yes Baltic season 2022 was very poor with the first time a big ship was based in Copenhagen but the market is back to normal now and other cruise lines from the US and Europe fill big and new ships in the Baltic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted February 17, 2023 #1107 Share Posted February 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, SherriZ366 said: And I wonder (bad pun) if Utopia would be more similar to Harmony and Symphony or would it be built like Wonder. Like Wonder for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowCruiser01 Posted February 17, 2023 #1108 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jack McGowan said: Possible. But what would the plan be for Summer 25 then if Odyssey is going to Southampton 🤔 Odyssey for Southampton/Cape Liberty and Anthem year round from Rome maybe? That way, they keep a Quantum Class in the market, albeit one that is a bit older in exchange for having it year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad455 Posted February 17, 2023 #1109 Share Posted February 17, 2023 16 hours ago, OfTheSeasCruiser said: Test sailings are up. Odyssey to Cape Liberty Oasis in Fort Lauderdale for 6/8 nighters Rhapsody in San Juan starting in June, and I assume will continue through winter Jewel in Galveston. 9 night itinerary is showing Explorer on longer cruises from Miami Radiance in Tampa for 7 nighters Brilliance in NOLA for 7 nighters Will post more if I find any I don't see the Odyssey's itineraries for January 2025. I hope they're keeping the 11 day sailings out of Cape Liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 17, 2023 Author #1110 Share Posted February 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: the market is back to normal now and other cruise lines from the US and Europe fill big and new ships in the Baltic. The itinerary designers (assuming in consultation with the bean counters) at RCI don't seem to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 17, 2023 #1111 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, toad455 said: I don't see the Odyssey's itineraries for January 2025. I hope they're keeping the 11 day sailings out of Cape Liberty. These are just the test uploads. All the sailings won’t be available until next week. But the St Maarten port schedule suggests Odyssey will be doing 11 night itineraries in January 2025 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted February 17, 2023 #1112 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Do we think Symphony to NJ is permanent? I.e - in Summer 25 will it carry on being Symphony or return to being Oasis once she’s back from Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummmerInKefalonia Posted February 17, 2023 #1113 Share Posted February 17, 2023 They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards. The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be. Check this: https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean sounds Posted February 17, 2023 #1114 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, STEVE-O said: … Our TA is trying to get a Junior Suite for the Grand Suite price ( now doesn’t that sound odd!!!) afraid that may alert and red flag the GS, OS pricing deals. Edited February 17, 2023 by ocean sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted February 17, 2023 #1115 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ocean sounds said: afraid that may alert and red flag the GS, OS pricing deals. TA got it done for us. She said these sailings are a hot topic amongst TA's........ If the word is that widespread, Royal is sure to catch wind of it. Prices are unchanged as of a few minutes ago..... Edited February 17, 2023 by STEVE-O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 17, 2023 #1116 Share Posted February 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards. The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be. Check this: https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/ New Zealand won’t be far behind,I have often wondered about the clouds of garbage that fill the fjords. Just about every captains corner someone brings it up . It’s just steam ,nothing to be concerned about. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted February 17, 2023 #1117 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Saab4444 said: Have you looked at the rates Royal Is currently requesting for Northern Europe 2023 and 2024? This is much more than any US (Caribbean, Alaska or Northeast) deployment can bring into their pocket. Yes Baltic season 2022 was very poor with the first time a big ship was based in Copenhagen but the market is back to normal now and other cruise lines from the US and Europe fill big and new ships in the Baltic. Though Royal is making a Ton on all the Ships stopping at Coco Cay now, think all that money going into their Pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean sounds Posted February 17, 2023 #1118 Share Posted February 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, STEVE-O said: TA got it done for us. She said these sailings are a hot topic amongst TA's........ If the word is that widespread, Royal is sure to catch wind of it. Prices are unchanged as of a few minutes ago..... Glad you are all booked! I also booked one a few days ago. Fingers crossed 🤞🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted February 17, 2023 #1119 Share Posted February 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards. The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be. Check this: https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/ This applies to the Norwegian Fjords but not to the Baltic, UK, Western Europe or the bigger City stops in Scandinavia. But yes, further deployment changed will be required. Utopia as LNG ship would be suitable but too big for most ports. Maybe this is why Royal is slowly leaving Northern Europe, wrong ships… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted February 17, 2023 #1120 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: This applies to the Norwegian Fjords but not to the Baltic, UK, Western Europe or the bigger City stops in Scandinavia. But yes, further deployment changed will be required. Utopia as LNG ship would be suitable but too big for most ports. Maybe this is why Royal is slowly leaving Northern Europe, wrong ships… 1 hour ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards. The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be. Check this: https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/ Interesting. Does any cruise line have zero emission ships in the pipeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsteinvik Posted February 17, 2023 #1121 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Jewel of the Seas disappeared also from Reykjaviks cruise list on August 2024. Only the 2 calls in May and June remain. So I expect a shorter Northern Europe season for Jewel, last planned cruise could be the 11 night British Isles cruise on 18 July 2024 before heading to the Med. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 17, 2023 #1122 Share Posted February 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, geoff2802 said: Interesting. Does any cruise line have zero emission ships in the pipeline? Wasn’t icon supposed to be a hydrogen full cell ? That would be the only practical fuel unless they had a battery pack for entering the fjords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted February 17, 2023 #1123 Share Posted February 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Wasn’t icon supposed to be a hydrogen full cell ? That would be the only practical fuel unless they had a battery pack for entering the fjords. Yes, Icon has fuel cell and LNG. Of course it won’t be going to Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 17, 2023 #1124 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, geoff2802 said: Yes, Icon has fuel cell and LNG. Of course it won’t be going to Norway. It does have hydrogen fuel cells? I thought they dropped that. Maybe the rumours of the new Discovery class ,it might have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted February 17, 2023 #1125 Share Posted February 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: It does have hydrogen fuel cells? I thought they dropped that. Maybe the rumours of the new Discovery class ,it might have something. I may have read outdated information. Can’t imagine the ship could travel far on a fuel cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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