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It is not that I have anything against tipping and I seek out my favourite bartenders at the end and give them an extra tip but reading on the boards all the conversation about tipping in advance I am curious what I would actually see as far as a benefit.    I can't see them giving me a much different experience is i slip them a dollar or 2.   maybe if I dropped a 20 or 50 maybe but still I have a deluxe drink package so why should I tip to start?

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It is not that I have anything against tipping and I seek out my favourite bartenders at the end and give them an extra tip but reading on the boards all the conversation about tipping in advance I am curious what I would actually see as far as a benefit.    I can't see them giving me a much different experience is i slip them a dollar or 2.   maybe if I dropped a 20 or 50 maybe but still I have a deluxe drink package so why should I tip to start?

The bartender(s) would benefit by having additional money up front for having done nothing.

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5 minutes ago, Woody14 said:

It is not that I have anything against tipping and I seek out my favourite bartenders at the end and give them an extra tip but reading on the boards all the conversation about tipping in advance I am curious what I would actually see as far as a benefit.    I can't see them giving me a much different experience is i slip them a dollar or 2.   maybe if I dropped a 20 or 50 maybe but still I have a deluxe drink package so why should I tip to start?

Try it and find out for yourself. Doesn't matter what others do or don't do. Personal preference. If you feel it's worth it, go for it. 

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If you ever spend time talking with service employees (meaning not officers) you MAY have one or two tell you they endure the tight living quarters, 7 days a week work schedule, etc., simply because they get to "see the world."  But the majority are doing so to support family members in their home country.  And every extra dollar they earn is another one they can send home.  

 

They pick up on the extra cash tippers quickly.  There have been times where there's a line of people waiting for drinks, and a cocktail server will see me and ask what I want to drink, bypassing the line.  At a crowded bar, my drink won't stay empty long, as I'm asked if I'd like another.

 

In the casino, playing at a table, I'll drop a $5 chip on the cocktail tray when my drink is delivered, and the cocktail server is back asking me if I'm ready for another when my drink is down to 1/4.

 

But let me add that whether it's the $1 cash in a bar or the chip in the casino, it is always accompanied on my part by a sincere thank you and smile to show my appreciation for good service.

 

I'm sure some (or hopefully many) will think it's crazy and unnecessary to tip, since there's something already tacked on for a gratuity.  That's okay; they don't have to change their habits.

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2 minutes ago, PWP-001 said:

If you ever spend time talking with service employees (meaning not officers) you MAY have one or two tell you they endure the tight living quarters, 7 days a week work schedule, etc., simply because they get to "see the world."  But the majority are doing so to support family members in their home country.  And every extra dollar they earn is another one they can send home.  

 

They pick up on the extra cash tippers quickly.  There have been times where there's a line of people waiting for drinks, and a cocktail server will see me and ask what I want to drink, bypassing the line.  At a crowded bar, my drink won't stay empty long, as I'm asked if I'd like another.

 

In the casino, playing at a table, I'll drop a $5 chip on the cocktail tray when my drink is delivered, and the cocktail server is back asking me if I'm ready for another when my drink is down to 1/4.

 

But let me add that whether it's the $1 cash in a bar or the chip in the casino, it is always accompanied on my part by a sincere thank you and smile to show my appreciation for good service.

 

I'm sure some (or hopefully many) will think it's crazy and unnecessary to tip, since there's something already tacked on for a gratuity.  That's okay; they don't have to change their habits.

Hey If people can't understand how the Real World works, Why waste your time trying to explain it..

Let the moron's wait in line!!😁

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29 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said:

If you give money upfront, is it still a tip?  Or is it a bribe?

Actually this is a quote from a brief history of tipping and it's something that I've heard from other sources which I cannot remember to cite:

 

Tipping—which may have originated in the taverns of 17th Century England, where drinkers would slip money to the waiter “to insure promptitude” or T.I.P for short

 

Tipping was done in advance.

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13 minutes ago, PWP-001 said:

Actually this is a quote from a brief history of tipping and it's something that I've heard from other sources which I cannot remember to cite:

 

Tipping—which may have originated in the taverns of 17th Century England, where drinkers would slip money to the waiter “to insure promptitude” or T.I.P for short

 

Tipping was done in advance.

Another source 

 

The oft-repeated story of "tips" meaning "to insure prompt service" is in fact an urban legend. The Oxford English Dictionary places the origin of "tip" as a slang word used by criminals more than 400 years ago, and the dictionary provides historical examples.

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I've used this as example of extra tipping and getting great service before but I'll repeat it:

 

On my last cruise, Ovation, May this year, Alaska, on the first day at sea, early in the day, almost nobody in the Casino, I went to the casino bar, the bartender came over and asked if I wanted anything, not rudely, but not totally or overly friendly either.  I just asked for a Bloody Mary, she made it and I gave her my Card.  She came back with the card and I said thank you and handed her a $2.00 bill.  She looked at the card again and said, with a big smile, "Thank you, Jay".  From that point on, even if there were no chairs vacant she'd see me and kinda yell, "You want a Bloody Mary, Jay?"  I shake my head yep and she'd make it, she knew I was Star Class (not bragging, just passing on fact) and didn't even ask for my card.  I gave her a $2.00 bill.  This happened every time I went up the the bar.  Even when I was just walking by the bar, she'd yell out, "Hi Jay".  The funny thing about all this, I usually, especially during the evening hours, didn't want a Bloody Mary.  But, I didn't want to burst her bubble.  It seemed like she was so proud of herself giving me such great service and I let her think that way, I really enjoyed it.  

 

This is just one of many examples I could give about great service with a little extra gratuity.

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1 hour ago, Woody14 said:

It is not that I have anything against tipping and I seek out my favourite bartenders at the end and give them an extra tip but reading on the boards all the conversation about tipping in advance I am curious what I would actually see as far as a benefit.    I can't see them giving me a much different experience is i slip them a dollar or 2.   maybe if I dropped a 20 or 50 maybe but still I have a deluxe drink package so why should I tip to start?

My Bar Guy sees me walk in stand at end of crowded Bar and brings me my Reg Drinks without even talking to me. Tipped him the first Day and last 14 since, this for all Free Crown and Anchor Drinks

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2 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

Never tipped on firs5 day, or as I go, never had less than great service. I do go out of my way to be nice, polite and not pushy.

 

Yes, being nice, polite and not pushy is a great thing and far too many people don't realize that and don't practice that.

 

But, getting great service is a matter of perspective/experience.  Now, I'm not saying that in YOUR experience you didn't get the best service possible. 

 

But, if someone doesn't tip how do they know they are getting the best service possible.  I know that during my experiences, including the example above, I saw many people that didn't get the attention that I did. And others that tip well, also got the extra attention.   

 

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Outside of the Diamond, Concierge, or Suite lounge I tip per drink.  In the lounges I give a larger tip when first served.  Very often at the end of the cruise if the service has been what I consider above and beyond, I will give a larger tip on the last night.  

The tip by drink is something I also do when in a bar ashore and I see no reason to treat bartenders and wait staff onboard any differently. 

 

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4 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said:

My Bar Guy sees me walk in stand at end of crowded Bar and brings me my Reg Drinks without even talking to me. Tipped him the first Day and last 14 since, this for all Free Crown and Anchor Drinks

I have submitted complaint cards when mr bar guy does that.  and I will continue to.

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10 minutes ago, billslowsky said:

I have submitted complaint cards when mr bar guy does that.  and I will continue to.

Well I didnt say he stop helping others...But this is way it's been long as I can remember, Tips help. 50+ yrs going to Bar/Lounges and even Managed a few these myself

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Just now, ONECRUISER said:

Well I didnt say he stop helping others...But this is way it's been long as I can remember, 50+ yrs going to Bar/Lounges and even Managed a few these

The best tippers get the best service.  Afterall, Bartenders and cocktail servers do work for tips.  

 

One more quick experience.  A cocktail server in the Casino, again but different cruise, got my usual $2.00 tip on the first drink I ordered, and several later.  It got to the point that she would walk by, see that my drink was getting low and without asking, she'd bring me a fresh drink.  I fail to see the difference if a Bartender does the same. As you said, it was done in conjunction with serving others.  To me, it's providing great service, something we all should expect and pay for.

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1 hour ago, PWP-001 said:

If you ever spend time talking with service employees (meaning not officers) you MAY have one or two tell you they endure the tight living quarters, 7 days a week work schedule, etc., simply because they get to "see the world."  But the majority are doing so to support family members in their home country.  And every extra dollar they earn is another one they can send home.  

 

 

Been on a lot of cruises and every crew member seems to have the same sad story. After awhile makes you wonder if they are taught to do this in their training.

 

Don't get me wrong I still tip but I really rather not hear about their back home stories. Kind of gets old.

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