Stumblefoot Posted November 19, 2022 #26 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, hoya68 said: Captain announced ship exceeded 2% threshold, that crew must wear masks and that passengers are encouraged to wear masks. Wonder how many passengers will head that advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLSD Posted November 19, 2022 #27 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 3:43 AM, kimanjo said: Had ordered Envovid ( SanOtize) and started using day of flying, at least 2X per day, everyday. Now, here is where most will say " no way". What is Envovid? Is it a hand sanitizer? Or is it something else entirely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crusinbanjo Posted November 19, 2022 #28 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, SLSD said: What is Envovid? Is it a hand sanitizer? Or is it something else entirely? It is a nasal spray using nitric oxide, claims to kill viruses in the nasal cavity . https://shop-enovid.com/products/enovid-sanotize-nons-nitric-oxide-nasal-spray 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimanjo Posted November 19, 2022 #29 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, crusinbanjo said: It is a nasal spray using nitric oxide, claims to kill viruses in the nasal cavity . https://shop-enovid.com/products/enovid-sanotize-nons-nitric-oxide-nasal-spray That's it exactly. There was another passenger on our sailing that we met that was using it too. We've used it all over all travels in South America for months, from our Antarctica trip Nov 2021 until we finally ran out in July in our hiking Sacred Valley/Machu Picchu trip. And...... Edited November 19, 2022 by kimanjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLSD Posted November 19, 2022 #30 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, crusinbanjo said: It is a nasal spray using nitric oxide, claims to kill viruses in the nasal cavity . https://shop-enovid.com/products/enovid-sanotize-nons-nitric-oxide-nasal-spray Is this an accepted product---or just one that claims to kill the viruses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare spinnaker2 Posted November 19, 2022 #31 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Regarding the nasal spray. Is it accepted if so by whom? A governmental agency? The FDA? A single study? Or is the efficacy anecdotal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FauxNom Posted November 20, 2022 #32 Share Posted November 20, 2022 and....? @kimanjo Thanks for posting about this product. I think I'm going to try it on my next trip. @spinnaker2 @SLSD It's quite new, sold OTC/online. At least one study shows it's effective at quickly clearing the viral load after a positive covid test. The link posted above will get you to the study, I believe. It's too new to have been tested as a preventative, but the idea makes sense to me. It prevents the virus from attaching to your nasal membrane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuka Posted November 20, 2022 #33 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, FauxNom said: and....? @kimanjo Thanks for posting about this product. I think I'm going to try it on my next trip. @spinnaker2 @SLSD It's quite new, sold OTC/online. At least one study shows it's effective at quickly clearing the viral load after a positive covid test. The link posted above will get you to the study, I believe. It's too new to have been tested as a preventative, but the idea makes sense to me. It prevents the virus from attaching to your nasal membrane. I bought it as well for my next trip. I consider it an additional layer of protection like masks, jabs and social distancing. Its efficacy is still being studied, but it is available for sale in Isreal and parts of Asia - but not US or Canada currently. Good health to all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarigal Posted November 20, 2022 #34 Share Posted November 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Nuka said: I bought it as well for my next trip. I consider it an additional layer of protection like masks, jabs and social distancing. Its efficacy is still being studied, but it is available for sale in Isreal and parts of Asia - but not US or Canada currently. Good health to all! It's not available in the stores around us, but you can get it directly from the manufacturer on line, or from Amazon. It's not cheap at the best of times, and it's really expensive on Amazon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tothesunset Posted November 20, 2022 #35 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, FauxNom said: and....? @kimanjo Thanks for posting about this product. I think I'm going to try it on my next trip. @spinnaker2 @SLSD It's quite new, sold OTC/online. At least one study shows it's effective at quickly clearing the viral load after a positive covid test. The link posted above will get you to the study, I believe. It's too new to have been tested as a preventative, but the idea makes sense to me. It prevents the virus from attaching to your nasal membrane. Unfortunately the link to the study shows only declarations of results without showing the methodology. In medical scientific terms the study is worthless without the complete paper to examine. It reads as a bit snake oil - ish. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lansea/article/PIIS2772-3682(22)00046-4/fulltext Clinical outcomes statistically marginally better for NO users. Edited November 20, 2022 by Tothesunset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimanjo Posted November 20, 2022 #36 Share Posted November 20, 2022 12 hours ago, SLSD said: Is this an accepted product---or just one that claims to kill the viruses? We also have Xlear ( cheap sold on Amazon) and even good ol' saline spray. I've heard the saying the solution to pollution is dilution. Nasal spray and a good mask. Easy to do. Worked really well until we ran out. 😞 Still masked, but no spray for the times we had to remove mask. Tested positive. While hiking for 2 days Machu Picchu. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. Especially at +8000 feet. Probably would have died of a heart attack had I had my oximeter with me and seen what my ox was. I'm pretty fit, and thought it was the elevation and hiking up exertion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FauxNom Posted November 20, 2022 #37 Share Posted November 20, 2022 So sorry your high elevation hike was so badly derailed @kimanjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimanjo Posted November 20, 2022 #38 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 hours ago, FauxNom said: So sorry your high elevation hike was so badly derailed @kimanjo Made it, however it was probably the most difficult thing I've ever done! All the young people also hiking those days, seeing me struggling, were so encouraging and enthusiastic, as they were passing me... I seriously couldn't have made had it not been for the cheers and kind words of all those strangers. My husband who is very, very fit, even struggled a little. I couldn't figure out why it was that hard?? I had been in Arequipa and Colca Canyon, which is a much higher elevation ( some points up to 14,000 ft) the week before and was fine. Well, we finally figured it out ( duh) after pretty much collapsing back at our lodge. Food delivery and isolation and rest for a week in Sacred Valley. What a year 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuka Posted November 22, 2022 #39 Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 10:25 AM, hoya68 said: Captain announced ship exceeded 2% threshold, that crew must wear masks and that passengers are encouraged to wear masks. How are you doing? Hope your quarantine ends soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoya68 Posted November 22, 2022 Author #40 Share Posted November 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Nuka said: How are you doing? Hope your quarantine ends soon. Thanks. Quarantine ended two days ago. Landings canceled yesterday. Made first laning this morning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuka Posted November 22, 2022 #41 Share Posted November 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, hoya68 said: Thanks. Quarantine ended two days ago. Landings canceled yesterday. Made first laning this morning. Glad to read that quarantine is over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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