wowzz Posted December 27, 2022 #26 Share Posted December 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, Solent Richard said: lets see your comparative Premier Inn room I notice you didn't choose to show an interior cabin ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neecy1 Posted December 27, 2022 #27 Share Posted December 27, 2022 19 hours ago, Fionboard said: My 14 nights last month select balcony on Iona was £1000 with £375 obc. Desperate to fill the big ones. As you say, Jeanlyon, smaller ships sell out. My 14 nights select balcony on Iona last month was £3574! Just a bog standard balcony. Can't remember the obc. Think about £650 which included blc and the extra £150 they were offering at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyCruiserUK Posted December 27, 2022 #28 Share Posted December 27, 2022 We were on brilliance of the seas a small royal ship in Aug around italy amd greece. I had a good chat with the hotel manager when i was sorting out some bits for my mum. He stated that the older smaller ships have to be very full to break even where as the larger modern ships, like oasis or quantum class need to be around 50-60% full. The larger ship are aimed at the children demographics however in the non school holiday seasons they get plenty of non children adults. Now our dau is in the important years of schooling we now only sail in school holidays which tbh is a rip off. IMO, there will always be a market for big and small ships for all ages and the cruise companies will always offer big discounts to fill some sailings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Windsurfboy Posted December 27, 2022 #29 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) Firstly, let's not compare any cruise ship with Premier inn, but with holiday or resort hotels. In both you will get bargins if you look at quiet times , although last few years UK "staycations" have been rip off. But in 2023 sure there will be bargins around on land and sea out of peak season . Especially for those that cater for families, who are more likely to be struggling with cost of living and mortgages. So bargins in big hotels and big ships Pound for pound, land holidays will offer bigger rooms than ships. Whether they offer better service will vary. So an inside guarantee cabin will offer better service than a similarly priced 3 star all inclusive med holiday. But on the same ship a bigger cabin doesn't equate to better service, so for a select balcony cabin , looking at a much better hotel with perhaps better service than P&O. Once you get to suite prices hotels offer more space and service However hotels don't take you to a new place every night. Edited December 27, 2022 by Windsurfboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted December 27, 2022 #30 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Windsurfboy said: Firstly, let's not compare any cruise ship with Premier inn, but with holiday or resort hotels. In both you will get bargins if you look at quiet times , although last few years UK "staycations" have been rip off. But in 2023 sure there will be bargins around on land and sea out of peak season . Especially for those that cater for families, who are more likely to be struggling with cost of living and mortgages. So bargins in big hotels and big ships Pound for pound, land holidays will offer bigger rooms than ships. Whether they offer better service will vary. So an inside guarantee cabin will offer better service than a similarly priced 3 star all inclusive med holiday. But on the same ship a bigger cabin doesn't equate to better service, so for a select balcony cabin , looking at a much better hotel with perhaps better service than P&O. Once you get to suite prices hotels offer more space and service However hotels don't take you to a new place every night. I guess like most folk we like to mix things up. Overseas A Inc hotels ( min 4*), cruises, weekends away ( UK and overseas) UK hotels, caravans/lodges. Premier Inns and other chains. We don't compare them as they are all different. We are all different. We enjoy them all. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted December 27, 2022 #31 Share Posted December 27, 2022 6 hours ago, FamilyCruiserUK said: We were on brilliance of the seas a small royal ship in Aug around italy amd greece. I had a good chat with the hotel manager when i was sorting out some bits for my mum. He stated that the older smaller ships have to be very full to break even where as the larger modern ships, like oasis or quantum class need to be around 50-60% full. The larger ship are aimed at the children demographics however in the non school holiday seasons they get plenty of non children adults. Now our dau is in the important years of schooling we now only sail in school holidays which tbh is a rip off. IMO, there will always be a market for big and small ships for all ages and the cruise companies will always offer big discounts to fill some sailings. Brilliance of the seas is 90090 tons and can hold 2112 passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted December 27, 2022 #32 Share Posted December 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Brilliance of the seas is 90090 tons and can hold 2112 passengers. Yup, not exactly small. Twice the size of a Saga ship ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyCruiserUK Posted December 28, 2022 #33 Share Posted December 28, 2022 9 hours ago, wowzz said: Yup, not exactly small. Twice the size of a Saga ship ! Oh it was small, compared to the larger ships of 4k+ guests. Any smaller then that is a rowing boat. Lol. On a cheeky note way to young and common to go on saga tbh. 😜 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Solent Richard Posted December 28, 2022 #34 Share Posted December 28, 2022 20 hours ago, wowzz said: I notice you didn't choose to show an interior cabin ! I don't do insides full stop.😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted December 28, 2022 #35 Share Posted December 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, FamilyCruiserUK said: Oh it was small, compared to the larger ships of 4k+ guests. Any smaller then that is a rowing boat. Lol. On a cheeky note way to young and common to go on saga tbh. 😜 Same here. We are only 73/67......... when we grow up........maybe..🤔 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Windsurfboy Posted December 28, 2022 #36 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Saw some very good deals advertised in paper January fly cruise 7 days balcony on Azura plus 3 hotel nights Tenerife under £1000, up to £1100 in March. By the way , Saga cruisers aren't all on Zimmers. 20 passengers (out of 500 passengers) entered 10k charity race for Ukraine on our Black sea replacement cruise. Doubt if you'd get same % ie 200 out of 5000 on Iona. Hotel general Manager (not included in 20) won and was only one to break hour. But quite a few passengers were well under 1.30hr. None were spring chickens, only one under 70. I was second youngest, and second passenger. Edited December 28, 2022 by Windsurfboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted December 28, 2022 #37 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just food for thought for those that cruise with Princess and have been critical of price of P&Os drinks package. This morning received a Princess brochure for 2024 and the price of Princess Plus has now gone up to £50pppd. There are some extra benefits but personally think that is a bit expensive even when taking gratuities into account at a price of £1400 for a couple on 14 nt cruise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted December 28, 2022 #38 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, majortom10 said: Just food for thought for those that cruise with Princess and have been critical of price of P&Os drinks package. This morning received a Princess brochure for 2024 and the price of Princess Plus has now gone up to £50pppd. There are some extra benefits but personally think that is a bit expensive even when taking gratuities into account at a price of £1400 for a couple on 14 nt cruise. The increase took place in the middle of December. Don't forget the £50 pppd incudes the autogratuitues of around £14 pppd, and unlimited wifi. The choice of drinks available in the package is far superior to P&O. Compared to the P&O drinks package, the Princess package is far better value for money. Edited December 28, 2022 by wowzz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted December 28, 2022 #39 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/27/2022 at 11:22 AM, Solent Richard said: Well here's my room on Arcadia @wowzz, lets see your comparative Premier Inn room 😁... ******* ...lets see your comparative Premier Inn room 😁... ?? We've stayed in both and can honestly say, there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever. Arcadia evey time. Avril 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted December 28, 2022 #40 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/26/2022 at 11:55 PM, wowzz said: I agree. It's all very well cruising on Arcadia, but a room in a Premier Inn is far superior to an Arcadia cabin. What a silly comment! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted December 28, 2022 #41 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/27/2022 at 11:22 AM, Solent Richard said: Well here's my room on Arcadia @wowzz, lets see your comparative Premier Inn room 😁... ******* ...lets see your comparative Premier Inn room 😁... ?? I have this one too, currently, and it is larger, more comfortable and with better storage than Iona. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted December 28, 2022 #42 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Windsurfboy said: Saw some very good deals advertised in paper January fly cruise 7 days balcony on Azura plus 3 hotel nights Tenerife under £1000, up to £1100 in March. By the way , Saga cruisers aren't all on Zimmers. 20 passengers (out of 500 passengers) entered 10k charity race for Ukraine on our Black sea replacement cruise. Doubt if you'd get same % ie 200 out of 5000 on Iona. Hotel general Manager (not included in 20) won and was only one to break hour. But quite a few passengers were well under 1.30hr. None were spring chickens, only one under 70. I was second youngest, and second passenger. Hip, hip hooray for the oldies.🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted December 28, 2022 #43 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, zap99 said: Hip, hip hooray for the oldies.🤣 Absolutely! We are the ones with the time and the money to keep the ships going! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camberley Posted December 28, 2022 #44 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Solent Richard said: I don't do insides full stop.😁 Same. Just never at all for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bill Y Posted December 28, 2022 #45 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, majortom10 said: Just food for thought for those that cruise with Princess and have been critical of price of P&Os drinks package. This morning received a Princess brochure for 2024 and the price of Princess Plus has now gone up to £50pppd. There are some extra benefits but personally think that is a bit expensive even when taking gratuities into account at a price of £1400 for a couple on 14 nt cruise. Yes this appears to be the way things are going. £1400 for two for 14 nts that will get them through the doors, then when at the counter £50 pppn very reasonable for a cruise sir. You just need our Princess Plus package I am sure that you will agree that it's very reasonable at £50 pppn, what the price has doubled! don't look at it like that sir, May I interest you in speciality restaurants and shore excursions sir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted December 28, 2022 #46 Share Posted December 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bill Y said: Yes this appears to be the way things are going. £1400 for two for 14 nts that will get them through the doors, then when at the counter £50 pppn very reasonable for a cruise sir. You just need our Princess Plus package I am sure that you will agree that it's very reasonable at £50 pppn, what the price has doubled! don't look at it like that sir, May I interest you in speciality restaurants and shore excursions sir? To be fair, the various costs are clearly shown during the booking process - standard, Princess Plus, and Princess Premium. Given that a glass of wine costs £12 on Princess, if you like a drink, buying the Princess Plus package is a no brainer ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josy1953 Posted December 28, 2022 #47 Share Posted December 28, 2022 We are not excessive drinkers, on holiday we do like a glass of wine with our meals and a couple of drinks each in the evening and we prefer the speciality coffees during the day to the sludge that is free in the buffet. We take the Princess Plus package because when we take into consideration the cost of the drinks, tips and bottles of water we think that the package is reasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Windsurfboy Posted December 28, 2022 #48 Share Posted December 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Solent Richard said: I don't do insides full stop.😁 2 hours ago, Camberley said: Same. Just never at all for us. I have no choice, made the mistake of booking a suite on first cruise so that's what expected. I obey! But that doesn't stop insides being fantastic value for money. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted December 28, 2022 #49 Share Posted December 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Solent Richard said: I don't do insides full stop.😁 +1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted December 28, 2022 Author #50 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, grapau27 said: +1 We do. Quite like an inside. Would rather not spend more than sleeping time in our cabin and also sleep really well, as it's dark! Also prefer to spend my money on other things than cabins. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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