Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #126 Share Posted April 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, bitob said: I don’t think price is issue. Some people are holding a grudge and are not happy with the “incentive” that came too late. Others have found other lines with newer ships and superb service and food. They might never have discovered these others lines had crystal not gone kaput Mr luxury I’m in Istanbul-boarding ovation Sunday. Anyone I should look up? Captain Andrew Pedder if he is still at the helm. Great guy,lives in the NE of England. He has an Aston Martin which is his pride and joy. Much more exciting than driving a ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancygp Posted April 27, 2023 #127 Share Posted April 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, bitob said: Mr luxury I’m in Istanbul-boarding ovation Sunday. Anyone I should look up? LOL…You are boarding the Encore!,, 🤣🤣 Nancy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #128 Share Posted April 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, FLcruiser2011 said: On the other hand, we were dining last night on Seabourn with a couple we had just me from NYC. They mentioned that they had sailed three times on OC, and that it had been their favorite in recent years. We commented on how excited we were that Crystal would sail again, and that we had booked the 2024 WC on NC. They were astonished to hear that there is a NC, and that Serenity will sail again. This couple have had no communication from NC, are not among the relatively few of us who read CC regularly, and had been totally oblivious of NC. Given the rather pathetic job NC has done of getting the word out (apparently even to those in the database they bought), it would not surprise me if sales are a bit slow at this stage. That's interesting and worrying at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #129 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, nancygp said: LOL…You are boarding the Encore!,, 🤣🤣 Nancy There's nothing like attention to detail is there 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancygp Posted April 27, 2023 #130 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Luxury said: Captain Andrew Pedder if he is still at the helm. Great guy,lives in the NE of England. He has an Aston Martin which is his pride and joy. Much more exciting than driving a ship Loved the ovation captain…just posted to bitbob that she’s boarding the Encore on Sunday! 🤣🤣😄 Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #131 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, nancygp said: Loved the ovation captain…just posted to bitbob that she’s boarding the Encore on Sunday! 🤣🤣😄 Nancy You can't make this stuff up can you 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted April 27, 2023 #132 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, nancygp said: LOL…You are boarding the Encore!,, 🤣🤣 Nancy Duh. Senior moment. Encore of course. Thanks for clearing that up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #133 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, bitob said: Duh. Senior moment. Encore of course. Thanks for clearing that up Oh well the only other person I know in Istanbul is President Erdoğan. He's quit influential 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazeAndCwaze Posted April 27, 2023 #134 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Yeah... but what about pillow chocolates and trash can liners? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted April 27, 2023 #135 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Mr Luxury said: Oh well the only other person I know in Istanbul is President Erdoğan. He's quit influential 😁 Having dinner with him tomorrow night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #136 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, CwazeAndCwaze said: Yeah... but what about pillow chocolates and trash can liners? And the Casino whilst we are back on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted April 27, 2023 #137 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, bitob said: Having dinner with him tomorrow night Don't buy any of those fake Louis Vuitton hand bags from him. He's very persistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancygp Posted April 27, 2023 #138 Share Posted April 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Keith1010 said: We've had along discussion about this. Pricing varies. Depends on many things including itinerary, single or double and so forth. I have booked cruises with NC that are as similar as you get to OC in terms of time frame and itinerary and they are either the same or less. In comparison the hotels are considerably more. Best not to generalize on pricing. Keith Based on a booking I made several years ago, 2019 for a defunct 2021 cruise, a similar cruise on NC for a standard non balcony cabin had an increase over 30%. However, the standard balcony price on the NC is fractionally more than a non-balcony. The larger suite categories are close to what they had been prior to OC startup in 2021. No one should be surprised by the higher hotel prices as they have across the board. they have increased significantly in the past couple of years and post pandemic. Nancy 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted April 27, 2023 #139 Share Posted April 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr Luxury said: Don't buy any of those fake Louis Vuitton hand bags from him. He's very persistent. Fake is not my style to quote my late mother: the only initials I’ll ever wear are my own 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted April 27, 2023 #140 Share Posted April 27, 2023 One thing for sure less money wil be lost in the on board Casino in 2023 than in prior years. Just saying. Keith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted April 27, 2023 #141 Share Posted April 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mr Luxury said: Don't buy any of those fake Louis Vuitton hand bags from him. He's very persistent. 26 minutes ago, nancygp said: Based on a booking I made several years ago, 2019 for a defunct 2021 cruise, a similar cruise on NC for a standard non balcony cabin had an increase over 30%. However, the standard balcony price on the NC is fractionally more than a non-balcony. The larger suite categories are close to what they had been prior to OC startup in 2021. No one should be surprised by the higher hotel prices as they have across the board. they have increased significantly in the past couple of years and post pandemic. Nancy 27 minutes ago, nancygp said: Based on a booking I made several years ago, 2019 for a defunct 2021 cruise, a similar cruise on NC for a standard non balcony cabin had an increase over 30%. However, the standard balcony price on the NC is fractionally more than a non-balcony. The larger suite categories are close to what they had been prior to OC startup in 2021. No one should be surprised by the higher hotel prices as they have across the board. they have increased significantly in the past couple of years and post pandemic. Nancy It’s not the higher prices per se that might affect bookings. Crystal was the luxury line that was cheaper than the others. A relative bargain. The increased prices may take away that advantage in the luxury market the larger suites imo are the least desirable. Most of us who book top suites want space. Even at the same price they are really small 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChatKat in Ca. Posted April 28, 2023 #142 Share Posted April 28, 2023 My bags are packed. I'm Ready to Go. Time Will Tell. There is only one way to know. Personally, I do like the casino. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted April 28, 2023 #143 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, ChatKat in Ca. said: My bags are packed. I'm Ready to Go. Time Will Tell. There is only one way to know. Personally, I do like the casino. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted April 28, 2023 #144 Share Posted April 28, 2023 My bags are packed. Ready to go. Cam't wait. And whether or not there is a casino means nothing to me. I am just excited that we will return to New Crystal and share a new experience with so many people who we know including crew, guests and land based enrichment and entertainment personnel and experience several items that we enjoyed with old crystal along with whatever is in store for us which is new. Like most things in life everyone will make their own decision. For some they don't care about a casino. I know others who prefer a casino but they are booked for next year including full world cruises. And for some this is a deal breaker. This won't be the first time when a change was made where some felt the same way as they do for a casino and their view was similar. Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise-y Posted April 30, 2023 #145 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I don’t care about casinos at all. But I do care about enrichment lectures and evening shows. I want to see what is planned before I book - and hope we will see the same caliber as OC, because a smattering of comics and lounge singers is offered on every cruise line. The end of July is nearing the 90 day mark and we haven’t seen much on this yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenzSailing Posted June 9, 2023 #146 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Well, just got off the agency webinar on NC that a lot of you were on. Asked about the casinos. The answer is, yep, they're gone for good(I had that one wrong.) Explanation was interesting, from the head of hotel ops for the line(this is a paraphrase, but close:) "management felt that the positioning of the product was not congruent with certain of the clientele attracted to the casino amenity." I read that as translating to "prior ownership's focus on gaming and comps from other parts of their empire was a relationship we wanted to clearly and completely sever." 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruising Posted June 9, 2023 #147 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Kenz, I was on the same webinar and I took that comment to mean that new crystal was hoping to not attract some of the clientele who frequent the casinos. I didn’t think it had anything to do with Genting … we probably will never know the reason but we did get confirmation today that there is no plan to have casinos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenzSailing Posted June 9, 2023 #148 Share Posted June 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, happy cruising said: Kenz, I was on the same webinar and I took that comment to mean that new crystal was hoping to not attract some of the clientele who frequent the casinos. I didn’t think it had anything to do with Genting … we probably will never know the reason but we did get confirmation today that there is no plan to have casinos. I agree completely with your first sentence. It's just that I've taken a number of OC cruises when NYK owned Crystal, and I never encountered an atmosphere in the casino that seemed in any way undesirable. Then that other company(I won't use their name) took the reins, and we got a high rollers room and, IIRC, some of the high rollers from their other properties (all basically casinos) started getting comped with Crystal cruises. I'm suggesting it's that crowd NC wants to lose. Pure speculation on my part, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted June 9, 2023 #149 Share Posted June 9, 2023 My thoughts on the Casino. I could be wrong but when OC had the Casino I never heard that they did as much comping of rooms as they did when owned by the G. I just listened to portions of the Webinar again and the answer was brief. In short he said he thinks a conversation around the direction of the product.....Not mixing well with some of the former casino guests they had. Regardless, I never thought this was a short term change as a couple of people did. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgee Posted June 16, 2023 #150 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 4:55 PM, happy cruising said: Kenz, I was on the same webinar and I took that comment to mean that new crystal was hoping to not attract some of the clientele who frequent the casinos. I didn’t think it had anything to do with Genting … we probably will never know the reason but we did get confirmation today that there is no plan to have casinos. Sounds like Crystal is rubbing it in by denigrating those of us who enjoy the casino and won't cruise without one. Message of "don't let the door hit you on the way out" clearly received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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