Pride of America technical Problem in Hilo

[Nikita4]

We are on the Pride of America Cruise this week in Hawaii. Now we are in Hilo and unfortunately we have a technical problem so that we had to stay another day hier in Hilo instead of sailing to Kona. 
I am interested if that is the first time oder the ship has more problems like this?

The cruise is special, especially the service on the ship.... but we like the Hawaiian Islands, so no problem.

[hallux]

4 hours ago, Nikita4 said:

I am interested if that is the first time oder the ship has more problems like this?

Ships are machines, they are not infallible.  Breakdowns are not unheard of for ANY machine.

[Capitan Obvious]

5 hours ago, Nikita4 said:

I am interested if that is the first time oder the ship has more problems like this?

 

I can pretty much guarantee that nobody on this forum has a maintenance/issue log for the Pride of America. That aside, since you are acutally ON the ship in question, why not just ask them?

[Cigar King]

It's a nice ride over the mountains to get from Hilo to Kona, and you get a chance to see the Keck, and possibly even snow.

[Panhandle Couple]

It has been posted that POA will dry dock for 2 weeks in June, so maybe another item that they can add to the list of repairs then. 

 

We sailed POA 5 weeks ago, still in reasonable good shape, but certainly needs some TLC during dry dock that you simply can't do on a cruise.

[The Traveling Man]

3 hours ago, Capitan Obvious said:

 

I can pretty much guarantee that nobody on this forum has a maintenance/issue log for the Pride of America. That aside, since you are acutally ON the ship in question, why not just ask them?

I would bet that @chengkp75 does.

Edited April 17 by The Traveling Man

[www3traveler]

2 minutes ago, The Traveling Man said:

I would bet that @chengkp75 does.

I was thinking the same thing: @chengkp75 would know or would have a very educated guess.  I am not sure about this particular cruise, but on of the Chief Engineers on the Pride is lady.  There was a story on a different website posted about her.

[jkbec101]

55 minutes ago, Panhandle Couple said:

It has been posted that POA will dry dock for 2 weeks in June, so maybe another item that they can add to the list of repairs then. 

 

We sailed POA 5 weeks ago, still in reasonable good shape, but certainly needs some TLC during dry dock that you simply can't do on a cruise.

Where did you get this information?  I can't find it and would appreciate a link to the post or article.

[Nikita4]

The chief engineer is a men at the moment.

 

The ship really needs some maitenance.

 

I was on more than 30 cruises and this is the first with a problem like this, boring is that we don‘t know how long we stay in Hilo today. We rentet a car for today but not to know when to be back is challenging.

 

This will be our first and last NCL cruise, also the pax are special, many drunken elderly people on the ship. We never see things like this on a cruise.

Our  teen son was shoked after the first night after a old lady invited him to come with her in her cabin….

[Nikita4]

And our plann is to drive to Kona when we know how long we stay hier. 
But please no snow, we are swiss and at home its cold at the moment and will snow again.

[zqvol]

1 minute ago, Nikita4 said:

And our plann is to drive to Kona when we know how long we stay hier. 
But please no snow, we are swiss and at home its cold at the moment and will snow again.

You won’t find snow between Hilo and Kona. 

[chengkp75]

2 minutes ago, Nikita4 said:

The ship really needs some maitenance.

What kind of maintenance?  Are you talking about the appearance of the hotel areas, or things that don't work in the hotel?  Or, the actual maintenance of the ship's systems?  If you mean the latter, then I would ask your qualifications to make that statement, and your ability to determine what has caused the problem, and how you know the state of the ship's equipment.

 

You are not new to CC, so you must have seen any of the numerous threads, across virtually every forum, many that I have responded to, regarding technical problems that either cancel cruises, delay ports, slow ships down, cause itinerary changes, or even require emergency dry dockings, and so on. It happens to every cruise line, and I would say that over the life of every cruise ship, it has happened more than once.

1 hour ago, Panhandle Couple said:

It has been posted that POA will dry dock for 2 weeks in June, so maybe another item that they can add to the list of repairs then.

 

15 minutes ago, jkbec101 said:

Where did you get this information?  I can't find it and would appreciate a link to the post or article

According to the DNV database, yes, the POA is due for dry docking in June.

59 minutes ago, www3traveler said:

I am not sure about this particular cruise, but on of the Chief Engineers on the Pride is lady.

.I'm not sure anymore (I've been gone for quite a while), but if it who I think it is, I trained her when she was a junior engineer on the Pride of Aloha.

 

I don't recall the POA having any "propulsion" problems (if that is what this is, don't know any details), over the 20 years of her career.  She did "tow" a buoy, chain and concrete anchor from Honolulu to Maui during her first year or two of operation, and that did cause some problems with delays in getting that unwrapped from the prop in Maui, but since she does so little time steaming on this itinerary, and most of it is relatively moderate speed, her propulsion system is never really stressed.

[chengkp75]

2 minutes ago, Nikita4 said:

And our plann is to drive to Kona when we know how long we stay hier. 
But please no snow, we are swiss and at home its cold at the moment and will snow again.

A Captain of the Pride of Aloha (former NCL ship in Hawaii), lived on the Big Island, and told me how some days they would go skiing in the morning on the mountain, and surfing in the afternoon.

[chengkp75]

3 minutes ago, zqvol said:

You won’t find snow between Hilo and Kona. 

Depends on which way you go.  One route goes past the Mauna Kea ski resort, though no snow at this time of year.

[zqvol]

20 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Depends on which way you go.  One route goes past the Mauna Kea ski resort, though no snow at this time of year.

I was thinking by Volcano National Park, but you can definitely get from Hilo to Kona without encountering snow

Edited April 17 by zqvol

[chengkp75]

4 minutes ago, zqvol said:

I was thinking by Volcano National Park, but you can definitely get from Hilo to Kona without encountering snow

Yeah, that's the southern route, the other route, north of Mauna Loa takes you past the ski mountain.

[www3traveler]

1 hour ago, chengkp75 said:

What kind of maintenance?  Are you talking about the appearance of the hotel areas, or things that don't work in the hotel?  Or, the actual maintenance of the ship's systems?  If you mean the latter, then I would ask your qualifications to make that statement, and your ability to determine what has caused the problem, and how you know the state of the ship's equipment.

 

You are not new to CC, so you must have seen any of the numerous threads, across virtually every forum, many that I have responded to, regarding technical problems that either cancel cruises, delay ports, slow ships down, cause itinerary changes, or even require emergency dry dockings, and so on. It happens to every cruise line, and I would say that over the life of every cruise ship, it has happened more than once.

 

According to the DNV database, yes, the POA is due for dry docking in June.

.I'm not sure anymore (I've been gone for quite a while), but if it who I think it is, I trained her when she was a junior engineer on the Pride of Aloha.

 

I don't recall the POA having any "propulsion" problems (if that is what this is, don't know any details), over the 20 years of her career.  She did "tow" a buoy, chain and concrete anchor from Honolulu to Maui during her first year or two of operation, and that did cause some problems with delays in getting that unwrapped from the prop in Maui, but since she does so little time steaming on this itinerary, and most of it is relatively moderate speed, her propulsion system is never really stressed.

Chief,

A few weeks ago there was a story and pictures of her posted on another social media website.  Picture with her was David Herrera, Harry Sommers other Senior Corporate Officials.  General Manager Steven Jacobsen was on vacation at the time.

[omahabob]

1 hour ago, Nikita4 said:

....This will be our first and last NCL cruise, also the pax are special, many drunken elderly people on the ship. We never see things like this on a cruise.

Our  teen son was shoked after the first night after a old lady invited him to come with her in her cabin….

Yeah, problems like these never happen on other cruise lines. LOL! I wish I had a dollar for every time someone made the 'never again' statement here, for all cruise lines. I could afford to cruise whenever I wanted. All cruise lines/ships/itineraries have such problems. Just because this is the first time you personally experienced it in no way means it's limited to NCL. You've been a member here long enough that you should know that very well by now.

[chengkp75]

43 minutes ago, www3traveler said:

Chief,

A few weeks ago there was a story and pictures of her posted on another social media website.  Picture with her was David Herrera, Harry Sommers other Senior Corporate Officials.  General Manager Steven Jacobsen was on vacation at the time.

Yeah, looked her up, Lindsey Smith.  She was hired by NCL as a third engineer, as one of the original Pride of America crew.  She actually made it to the shipyard, I was due to fly out to Germany the day the ship sank at the dock, so everyone was transferred to the Pride of Aloha (Norwegian Sky) for familiarization and reflagging.  She has spent nearly her entire career with NCL, and on the POA in particular.  While for senior engineers (Chief, Staff Chief, First) longevity on the ship leads to a lot of institutional knowledge and consistent maintenance, junior engineers can benefit from experiences on other ships and types of ships.  Having said that, Linds was a good engineer.

[chengkp75]

I can't remember, but I don't think there are any tugs of any real pulling power based in Hilo, so if POA has an azipod out of service, she needs a tug escort for the entire (acknowledgedly short) maneuver out of harbor, so they may be getting a tug down to help out.  Only real reason I can think of to delay the ship a full day in harbor.

[www3traveler]

17 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Yeah, looked her up, Lindsey Smith.  She was hired by NCL as a third engineer, as one of the original Pride of America crew.  She actually made it to the shipyard, I was due to fly out to Germany the day the ship sank at the dock, so everyone was transferred to the Pride of Aloha (Norwegian Sky) for familiarization and reflagging.  She has spent nearly her entire career with NCL, and on the POA in particular.  While for senior engineers (Chief, Staff Chief, First) longevity on the ship leads to a lot of institutional knowledge and consistent maintenance, junior engineers can benefit from experiences on other ships and types of ships.  Having said that, Linds was a good engineer.

Thank You   She must be an amazing person.

[chengkp75]

3 minutes ago, www3traveler said:

Thank You   She must be an amazing person.

No more than I am, just a simple boat mechanic.

[www3traveler]

8 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

No more than I am, just a simple boat mechanic.

You just  made me laugh.  Chief Engineer Oystein Undrum would say the same thing about himself.  There is nothing simple about either one of you.

 

Prayers as always, Sir for you and your family.

[chengkp75]

6 minutes ago, www3traveler said:

You just  made me laugh.  Chief Engineer Oystein Undrum would say the same thing about himself.  There is nothing simple about either one of you.

 

Prayers as always, Sir for you and your family.

Oystein was Staff Chief on the Sky when I joined as observing First Engineer (had been sailing Chief for about 20 years, but took a step back to start with cruise ships) for a few months prior to the reflagging of the Aloha.  Wonderful guy.  Reflagging and dry docking the Sky was accelerated about 4 months or so, due to POA sinking. 

[ChiefMateJRK]

3 hours ago, Nikita4 said:

many drunken elderly people on the ship. We never see things like this on a cruise.

You've never seen a drunk old man on a cruise before?