Nikita4 Posted April 17 #1 Share Posted April 17 We are on the Pride of America Cruise this week in Hawaii. Now we are in Hilo and unfortunately we have a technical problem so that we had to stay another day hier in Hilo instead of sailing to Kona. I am interested if that is the first time oder the ship has more problems like this? The cruise is special, especially the service on the ship.... but we like the Hawaiian Islands, so no problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted April 17 #2 Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, Nikita4 said: I am interested if that is the first time oder the ship has more problems like this? Ships are machines, they are not infallible. Breakdowns are not unheard of for ANY machine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitan Obvious Posted April 17 #3 Share Posted April 17 5 hours ago, Nikita4 said: I am interested if that is the first time oder the ship has more problems like this? I can pretty much guarantee that nobody on this forum has a maintenance/issue log for the Pride of America. That aside, since you are acutally ON the ship in question, why not just ask them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigar King Posted April 17 #4 Share Posted April 17 It's a nice ride over the mountains to get from Hilo to Kona, and you get a chance to see the Keck, and possibly even snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panhandle Couple Posted April 17 #5 Share Posted April 17 It has been posted that POA will dry dock for 2 weeks in June, so maybe another item that they can add to the list of repairs then. We sailed POA 5 weeks ago, still in reasonable good shape, but certainly needs some TLC during dry dock that you simply can't do on a cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traveling Man Posted April 17 #6 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Capitan Obvious said: I can pretty much guarantee that nobody on this forum has a maintenance/issue log for the Pride of America. That aside, since you are acutally ON the ship in question, why not just ask them? I would bet that @chengkp75 does. Edited April 17 by The Traveling Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare www3traveler Posted April 17 #7 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, The Traveling Man said: I would bet that @chengkp75 does. I was thinking the same thing: @chengkp75 would know or would have a very educated guess. I am not sure about this particular cruise, but on of the Chief Engineers on the Pride is lady. There was a story on a different website posted about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jkbec101 Posted April 17 #8 Share Posted April 17 55 minutes ago, Panhandle Couple said: It has been posted that POA will dry dock for 2 weeks in June, so maybe another item that they can add to the list of repairs then. We sailed POA 5 weeks ago, still in reasonable good shape, but certainly needs some TLC during dry dock that you simply can't do on a cruise. Where did you get this information? I can't find it and would appreciate a link to the post or article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikita4 Posted April 17 Author #9 Share Posted April 17 The chief engineer is a men at the moment. The ship really needs some maitenance. I was on more than 30 cruises and this is the first with a problem like this, boring is that we don‘t know how long we stay in Hilo today. We rentet a car for today but not to know when to be back is challenging. This will be our first and last NCL cruise, also the pax are special, many drunken elderly people on the ship. We never see things like this on a cruise. Our teen son was shoked after the first night after a old lady invited him to come with her in her cabin…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikita4 Posted April 17 Author #10 Share Posted April 17 And our plann is to drive to Kona when we know how long we stay hier. But please no snow, we are swiss and at home its cold at the moment and will snow again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted April 17 #11 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Nikita4 said: And our plann is to drive to Kona when we know how long we stay hier. But please no snow, we are swiss and at home its cold at the moment and will snow again. You won’t find snow between Hilo and Kona. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #12 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Nikita4 said: The ship really needs some maitenance. What kind of maintenance? Are you talking about the appearance of the hotel areas, or things that don't work in the hotel? Or, the actual maintenance of the ship's systems? If you mean the latter, then I would ask your qualifications to make that statement, and your ability to determine what has caused the problem, and how you know the state of the ship's equipment. You are not new to CC, so you must have seen any of the numerous threads, across virtually every forum, many that I have responded to, regarding technical problems that either cancel cruises, delay ports, slow ships down, cause itinerary changes, or even require emergency dry dockings, and so on. It happens to every cruise line, and I would say that over the life of every cruise ship, it has happened more than once. 1 hour ago, Panhandle Couple said: It has been posted that POA will dry dock for 2 weeks in June, so maybe another item that they can add to the list of repairs then. 15 minutes ago, jkbec101 said: Where did you get this information? I can't find it and would appreciate a link to the post or article According to the DNV database, yes, the POA is due for dry docking in June. 59 minutes ago, www3traveler said: I am not sure about this particular cruise, but on of the Chief Engineers on the Pride is lady. .I'm not sure anymore (I've been gone for quite a while), but if it who I think it is, I trained her when she was a junior engineer on the Pride of Aloha. I don't recall the POA having any "propulsion" problems (if that is what this is, don't know any details), over the 20 years of her career. She did "tow" a buoy, chain and concrete anchor from Honolulu to Maui during her first year or two of operation, and that did cause some problems with delays in getting that unwrapped from the prop in Maui, but since she does so little time steaming on this itinerary, and most of it is relatively moderate speed, her propulsion system is never really stressed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #13 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Nikita4 said: And our plann is to drive to Kona when we know how long we stay hier. But please no snow, we are swiss and at home its cold at the moment and will snow again. A Captain of the Pride of Aloha (former NCL ship in Hawaii), lived on the Big Island, and told me how some days they would go skiing in the morning on the mountain, and surfing in the afternoon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #14 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, zqvol said: You won’t find snow between Hilo and Kona. Depends on which way you go. One route goes past the Mauna Kea ski resort, though no snow at this time of year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted April 17 #15 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 20 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: Depends on which way you go. One route goes past the Mauna Kea ski resort, though no snow at this time of year. I was thinking by Volcano National Park, but you can definitely get from Hilo to Kona without encountering snow Edited April 17 by zqvol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #16 Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, zqvol said: I was thinking by Volcano National Park, but you can definitely get from Hilo to Kona without encountering snow Yeah, that's the southern route, the other route, north of Mauna Loa takes you past the ski mountain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare www3traveler Posted April 17 #17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: What kind of maintenance? Are you talking about the appearance of the hotel areas, or things that don't work in the hotel? Or, the actual maintenance of the ship's systems? If you mean the latter, then I would ask your qualifications to make that statement, and your ability to determine what has caused the problem, and how you know the state of the ship's equipment. You are not new to CC, so you must have seen any of the numerous threads, across virtually every forum, many that I have responded to, regarding technical problems that either cancel cruises, delay ports, slow ships down, cause itinerary changes, or even require emergency dry dockings, and so on. It happens to every cruise line, and I would say that over the life of every cruise ship, it has happened more than once. According to the DNV database, yes, the POA is due for dry docking in June. .I'm not sure anymore (I've been gone for quite a while), but if it who I think it is, I trained her when she was a junior engineer on the Pride of Aloha. I don't recall the POA having any "propulsion" problems (if that is what this is, don't know any details), over the 20 years of her career. She did "tow" a buoy, chain and concrete anchor from Honolulu to Maui during her first year or two of operation, and that did cause some problems with delays in getting that unwrapped from the prop in Maui, but since she does so little time steaming on this itinerary, and most of it is relatively moderate speed, her propulsion system is never really stressed. Chief, A few weeks ago there was a story and pictures of her posted on another social media website. Picture with her was David Herrera, Harry Sommers other Senior Corporate Officials. General Manager Steven Jacobsen was on vacation at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omahabob Posted April 17 #18 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Nikita4 said: ....This will be our first and last NCL cruise, also the pax are special, many drunken elderly people on the ship. We never see things like this on a cruise. Our teen son was shoked after the first night after a old lady invited him to come with her in her cabin…. Yeah, problems like these never happen on other cruise lines. LOL! I wish I had a dollar for every time someone made the 'never again' statement here, for all cruise lines. I could afford to cruise whenever I wanted. All cruise lines/ships/itineraries have such problems. Just because this is the first time you personally experienced it in no way means it's limited to NCL. You've been a member here long enough that you should know that very well by now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #19 Share Posted April 17 43 minutes ago, www3traveler said: Chief, A few weeks ago there was a story and pictures of her posted on another social media website. Picture with her was David Herrera, Harry Sommers other Senior Corporate Officials. General Manager Steven Jacobsen was on vacation at the time. Yeah, looked her up, Lindsey Smith. She was hired by NCL as a third engineer, as one of the original Pride of America crew. She actually made it to the shipyard, I was due to fly out to Germany the day the ship sank at the dock, so everyone was transferred to the Pride of Aloha (Norwegian Sky) for familiarization and reflagging. She has spent nearly her entire career with NCL, and on the POA in particular. While for senior engineers (Chief, Staff Chief, First) longevity on the ship leads to a lot of institutional knowledge and consistent maintenance, junior engineers can benefit from experiences on other ships and types of ships. Having said that, Linds was a good engineer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #20 Share Posted April 17 I can't remember, but I don't think there are any tugs of any real pulling power based in Hilo, so if POA has an azipod out of service, she needs a tug escort for the entire (acknowledgedly short) maneuver out of harbor, so they may be getting a tug down to help out. Only real reason I can think of to delay the ship a full day in harbor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare www3traveler Posted April 17 #21 Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: Yeah, looked her up, Lindsey Smith. She was hired by NCL as a third engineer, as one of the original Pride of America crew. She actually made it to the shipyard, I was due to fly out to Germany the day the ship sank at the dock, so everyone was transferred to the Pride of Aloha (Norwegian Sky) for familiarization and reflagging. She has spent nearly her entire career with NCL, and on the POA in particular. While for senior engineers (Chief, Staff Chief, First) longevity on the ship leads to a lot of institutional knowledge and consistent maintenance, junior engineers can benefit from experiences on other ships and types of ships. Having said that, Linds was a good engineer. Thank You She must be an amazing person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #22 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, www3traveler said: Thank You She must be an amazing person. No more than I am, just a simple boat mechanic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare www3traveler Posted April 17 #23 Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: No more than I am, just a simple boat mechanic. You just made me laugh. Chief Engineer Oystein Undrum would say the same thing about himself. There is nothing simple about either one of you. Prayers as always, Sir for you and your family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 17 #24 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, www3traveler said: You just made me laugh. Chief Engineer Oystein Undrum would say the same thing about himself. There is nothing simple about either one of you. Prayers as always, Sir for you and your family. Oystein was Staff Chief on the Sky when I joined as observing First Engineer (had been sailing Chief for about 20 years, but took a step back to start with cruise ships) for a few months prior to the reflagging of the Aloha. Wonderful guy. Reflagging and dry docking the Sky was accelerated about 4 months or so, due to POA sinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMateJRK Posted April 17 #25 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, Nikita4 said: many drunken elderly people on the ship. We never see things like this on a cruise. You've never seen a drunk old man on a cruise before? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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