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Short answer….yes. Almost all of them do. Although Celebrity’s program is one of the best IMO. This article is overly vague but it sort of explains how it works in general terms. https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles/secret-agent-deals-how-to-find-prices-cruise-lines-dont-offer

The long Caribbean (10 and 11 day) cruises on Beyond are looking like the best sellers for the Caribbean winter 2023-2024 season. I would not be surprised if many of those itineraries sell out fairly soon. If you are looking for a cheaper option on another ship I would keep an eye on the 3/14/24 Equinox 9 night ABC or the 3/25/24 Silhouette 10 night Southern Caribbean.

You aren't taking demand into consideration. In 2003 there were 12 million global cruise passengers, that number has since grown to almost 30 million in 2019 and projected at 39.5 million by 2027. Edge 1 was ordered in December 2014 only 28 months after Reflection was launched. It's pretty much a given the wheels are in motion for the next class. No. It's the same as Beyond. 163 Aqua, 299 Concierge, 570 in the other IV categories for a total of 1,032. Edge has 918, Apex has 926.

This is all CLIA cruise lines - again not Celebrity specific but with longer cruises I doubt there is any substantial difference in the overall age. Celebrity does say for the Caribbean specficially 75% are 60+ on long (8 night or more) sailings.

The financials are all RCG brands. They do not report brand by brand. The other graphs are CLIA member cruise lines. Point being, the passengers and the cruise days are largely spent in the Caribbean on seven night cruises by mostly North Americans. For Celebrity I only have insight to Caribbean info: New to cruise/new to brand is 50% on 7 nights, 35% on long and 66% on short. Loyalty is 49% on 7 nights, 67% on long, 34% on short. Average age 60+ is 51% on 7 night, 75% on long, 37% on short. Traveling w/ family is 10% on 7 night, 3% on long, 14% on short. Roughly even split on boomer/silent gen and everyone younger on 7 night cruises, almost 80% boomer/silent gen on long Caribbean. Short Caribbean has a fairly similar generational breakdown. The largest market for Caribbean cruises is still South Florida (Orlando south) with New York City in the top 5 for 7 night and short Caribbean.

They aren't going to release profitability by sailing. But you can see revenue by geographic region. For RCG as a whole Europe and Asia combined aren't even close to Caribbean revenue. There are still two E class ships in Europe next summer and two S class ships.

I gave you solid data. Actual data from Celebrity. No speculation. Short Caribbean cruises and 7 day Caribbean are where the money is and where the people are. If long cruises were the money makers, why do they not sell them? It's obvious.

They do not release those figures but the writing is on the wall. The longest European cruise for next summer and 12 day. There have been no 14 day Caribbean cruises in several years. Similar to the Caribbean numbers, long cruisers have older more experienced passengers who don't spend as much and book much earlier. There are very few cruises longer than 12 days anywhere in the world and that is done purposefully.

Very simple. Money and market share. Why did they first move Equinox year round Caribbean in summer of 2017? Follow the $$$. Edge class ships generate a lot of buzz. This puts access to an E class in all major markets of the cruising world. Northern Europe, Mediterranean, Caribbean and Alaska as well as Australia. This allows two different customer types to enter the Caribbean market in the summer. Short Caribbean cruisers are typically new. 66% are new to the brand or new to cruising and 34% have Celebrity loyalty. 7 night cruises are 49% new to brand or new to cruising and similarly, roughly half have Celebrity loyalty. As far as families with kids, 10% travel with kids on a 7 night cruise, 14% on a Short Caribbean, and 3% on Long Caribbean. On Short and 7 night Caribbean cruise, just shy of 50% are now younger than Boomers+. That share continues to grow as Boomers and the Silent Gen no longer cruise. There are new markets that needs tapped and the number one way to do that is with ships people are excited about and with short cruises. They are trying to make a muddy distinction between cruising with kids and cruising for kids and outright encouraging those who are cruising for their kids to remain focused on Royal Caribbean. These are the one where the kids are the number one consideration and the parents are going despite it not being their ideal vacation. The cruise with kids group are those that want to cruise but entertaining the kids is not the priority. They may cruise for the ports, for the food, etc. but are dragging the kids along anyway. I'm honestly not sure how to market this differentiation effectively but we will see. The window in which people are booking is also shifting. The number of bookings made <6 months from the sail date has increased significantly. 77% of pax on 3-4 night cruises book the cruise within 6 months of the sail date whereas 50% of the pax on a Long Caribbean book within 6 months of sailing. This may be due to multiple thing like people's resistance to book cruises 18-24 months ago when COVID was still a big concern. US citizens are much more likely to book Caribbean on short notice than Europe. And as the rule typically goes, shorter lead time means higher prices.

The kettlebell collection is small. It's pictured in several YouTube videos. Looks like it only goes up to maybe 12kg. No proper pull up bar. There are a few lat/back pulldown machines. You might be able to use the smith machine if you're shorter. Otherwise you may hit your head on the ceiling. You can log in to your Peloton account. You do need a reservation. Apparently reservations take priority so they will ask that someone without a reservation gets off if they are using it at your time slot.

Ohh a good dress code debate. Celebrity was listening and decided to clear it up?

It will look just like this: There is a second corridor that leads to the suite that contains the door to the suite and the door to the connecting cabin. They are really quiet. We've been in an end S3 (8220 I believe) and were really happy with the setup.

It's just quirky because of the sailing dates. You're the second cruise after the TA which is followed by an 8 day, then an 12 day, then a 9 day before getting into the normal 10 and 11 day rotation. I would bet all of the menus for those for 3 cruises after the TA are not completely firmed up.

That may be tough, if not impossible, to find since so few people travel with a 3rd or 4th in a suite. It's really not going to look that much different than balcony cabin setup in the same way.

Already posting 107 inbound cancelations and 14% of remaining inbound flights being delayed.

Youre not going to see much variety in Caribbean summer season. I’m almost positive summer 2019 was limited to alternating 7 night eastern and western routes. Prior to 2017 there were no summer Caribbean sailings at all. 2021 was an oddity with the restart. To keep turnarounds on the weekend the 7/7 or 6/8 rotation is really all that works.

This gets posted a lot and it is not true. TA’s do not hold specific cabins. Any group space that they held but did not sell is turned back over to the cruise line far in advance of the sail date. If you are two weeks from sailing and a cabin is showing unavailable…it’s booked.

It may have been purely made up (as are many things you 'hear' on board) but the elimination of the bubbly was partially due to the e-Muster. It takes 100+ crew members to staff each muster station from ~11am-3pm rather than the old way when crew did not meet at the muster until right before everyone was called. It took a sizable amount of crew to stock, pour and clean up all of the random glasses around the ship. Since they have to be posted at a muster station for 4+ hours rather than 30 minutes, something had to give.

She's only doing this for ~12 months and will fully retire in April 2024. I wanted to personally share the news with you of my decision to transition into a new role at the Royal Caribbean Group, effective May 1st. As I prepare to ultimately retire from the company in April of 2024, I decided the time was right to turn Celebrity over to a new leader. It has always been incredibly difficult for me to imagine leaving this amazing brand. But, I also knew the time would come when I would have to make that decision. 👍 To give some indication of the lead time, during various calls over the past few years it's come up several times that Beyond (the actual Beyond, not when Apex was named Beyond) was under "final" design considerations at the time Edge was being announced.

Check your itinerary. Appears you may have gotten your cruise line confused? Trieste is not a Celebrity embarkation port. Flights by Celebrity does not 'assign' your flights. You can essentially choose anything available. There are also no nonstop flights from the US to Trieste so that will not be an option regardless of which cruise line you choose.

Richard Fain is still the Chair of the Board for Royal Caribbean Group. I've never seen anything that factually outlines roles and responsibilities between the group leadership and individual cruise line leadership, but it would be very safe to say that the man (not LLP!) who oversaw Royal Caribbean from Song of America to the upcoming Icon of the Seas had a prominent say in the build of Edge class ships. It's well documented that ship design and innovation was his baby.

That will work. You just use the same login for both devices.

The only real concrete info available so far is more technical than guest facing: CELEBRITY CRUISES’ NEXT EDGE-SERIES SHIP BRINGS NEW FLEX FUEL ENGINE TO INDUSTRY Royal Caribbean Group’s new ship will be at the forefront of alternative fuel use thanks to partnership with technology group Wärtsilä and shipyard Chantiers de L’Atlantique MIAMI, March 28, 2023 – When Celebrity Cruises introduces the fifth ship in the revolutionary Edge Series, it will feature the collaborative efforts of its parent company Royal Caribbean Group, technology group Wärtsilä and shipyard Chantiers de L’Atlantique (CdA) to advance the use of alternative fuels for the cruise industry. The ship continues the innovation that debuted with the Edge Series but will also be equipped with a new engine model, along with storage and delivery systems, that will give unmatched fuel flexibility, with the ability to use three types of fuel, including methanol. “As we innovate our ship design and offerings, we’re also focused on equally evolving the fuel and technology landscape that powers them," said Jason Liberty, president and CEO, Royal Caribbean Group. “By incorporating tri-fueled engines, we are ensuring that as alternative, low-carbon-based solutions become more viable, our ships will be ready to adapt and drive the industry forward to a more sustainable and net zero emissions future.” “With the launch of our Edge Series of ships in 2018, we set ambitious sustainability goals to make these ships the most energy efficient large vessels at sea,” said Celebrity Cruises President and CEO Lisa Lutoff- Perlo. “Working collaboratively with our partners, we have continued to develop new technologies and achieve breakthroughs with each subsequent ship.” To allow for the ship’s fuel flexibility, Wärtsilä will deliver two converted 8-cylinder Wärtsilä 46F engines to allow them to utilize three fuel sources, including methanol. These changes not only advance carbon- free cruising, but by adding methanol as a fuel option, local emission like sulphur oxides (SOx), nitrogen oxides (NOx), and particulate matter are significantly reduced. “Wärtsilä has invested heavily into researching viable future carbon neutral fuels for the marine industry, and methanol has emerged as one of the most promising candidates. This will be the second methanol-fueled engine conversion that we have undertaken, and the first with the Wärtsilä 46F engine. We share the commitment to decarbonize shipping, and the transparent partnership between our three companies for this newbuild project is a tremendous boost for achieving this aim,” says Håkan Agnevall, President and CEO of Wärtsilä. The order for the engines was included in Wärtsilä’s order book in January 2023 and the full scope includes two 8-cylinder Wärtsilä 46F engines capable of operating with methanol as fuel, two 12- cylinder Wärtsilä 46F engines, and one Wärtsilä 32 engine. Wärtsilä will convert the 46F engines to run on methanol at the yard, prior to commissioning.

Two more recent leadership shakeups in the industry in the past few days. Michael Thamm left his role at CEO of the Costa Group (which did happen abruptly) leaving the presidents of Costa and AIDA reporting directly to the Carnival Corp CEO. The US big three all have new leadership at the top since 2022. A lot of these changes have occurred since the beginning of 2023: Richard Fain - left the Royal Caribbean Group Frank del Rio - left Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Arnold Donald - left Carnival Corp Michael Thamm - left Costa Group Lisa Lutoff Perlo - left Celebrity Cruises Roberto Martinolo - left Silversea Cruises Howard Sherman - left Oceania Jason Montague - left Regent Josh Leibowitz - left Seabourn Although not a departure, Norwegian Cruise line will have a new president and John Padgett is fairly new to his role at Princess (2021).

So it’s safe to say we should be prepared for a half dozen users to be very dissatisfied with the new CEO before she even starts 🤣 They won’t like her, her business or the ships, but will pop in with opinions (or self created facts) once an hour. And still claim to book cruises. Happy sailing!