rob6465 Posted October 5, 2010 #1 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Why is it so hard for people to accept that many cruisers can have fun even in bad weather or missing ports, etc. Some people just cannot accept when someone is having fun. I am glad that my group always find ways to have fun when cruising,even when we missed 2 ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted October 5, 2010 #2 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I reckon it depends on WHY you're cruising...if it's for the sun, or a specific port, then I can see why that might screw things up! If you're cruising just to 'get away' and don't really care about those above mentioned things, then no matter what, you're still on vacation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstcruizin Posted October 5, 2010 #3 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I reckon it depends on WHY you're cruising...if it's for the sun, or a specific port, then I can see why that might screw things up!If you're cruising just to 'get away' and don't really care about those above mentioned things, then no matter what, you're still on vacation! I agree, this might be a first cruise or long awaited vacation for some and they were probably looking forward to it, BUT... things happen beyond our controll and if its not a tragedy then you just make the best of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobucks_43228 Posted October 5, 2010 #4 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I agree if I'm on a cruise I ready to roll with the good and bad. It's not as if it's in my control. It's better than sitting at work, while it's storming outside.... No better place than on a cruise ship!!! Amazing some people choose to find the bad in everything and not the good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted October 5, 2010 #5 Share Posted October 5, 2010 One girl at my table said Jamaica was the only reason she booked this cruise. She had been to Jamaica. One was a first time cruiser, the other 2nd cruise. I do think the attitude I ran into was over the top from many, some felt they saw the storm approaching and that Carnival should never have tried to get into Jamaica, that Carnival should have given them a different port. Iv never run into so many who felt entitled and had unreasonable expectations. One couple said they owned a boat, they knew of the storm and called Carnival the night before we left and Carnival promised them if there was a storm they would go around it, that Carnival never drives into a storm. Iv seen it here on CC, people assuring newbies that Carnival wouldnt take them thru a storm, they will go around it. I think all of us on CC need to take a lesson from this with the assuranances I always see here on CC about how Carnival wouldnt take you into a storm. We did drive right thru and into the one hitting Jamaica. CC folks should also be more carefull telling folks we wouldnt ever be taken into a storm, that we will go around it. That was what made folks the maddest. We had to go thru the storm to get to Caymans too to try and get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mss22859 Posted October 5, 2010 #6 Share Posted October 5, 2010 As I found last year, on our first cruise, I was so relaxed that it would not have mattered if anything happened. Nothing did, thankfully, in fact it was a near perfect week. Meals, weather, etc. were all good to great! I believe that some people set their expectations so high that they are prone to disappointment. Just remember, you are on VACATION! Just roll with it and enjoy!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTabbyKats Posted October 5, 2010 #7 Share Posted October 5, 2010 As I found last year, on our first cruise, I was so relaxed that it would not have mattered if anything happened. Nothing did, thankfully, in fact it was a near perfect week. Meals, weather, etc. were all good to great!I believe that some people set their expectations so high that they are prone to disappointment. Just remember, you are on VACATION! Just roll with it and enjoy!:) But if you don't enjoy it...why should you pretend to enjoy it? Sailing thru a storm cannot be fun in itself....especially if you were assured that you would not sail thru a storm. Besides being uncomfortable...it's scary. You have to factor in "how bad" the weather is...what your expectations are...and what you enjoy doing. If you're there to drink & eat & play bingo...and like sea days...the weather is irrelevant. If you like sunshine and fresh air....it's not going to be one of your better vacations. My husband would want to jump overboard...I would have sat in the casino and made the best of a disappointing situation. If anything...I would have envied anyone who was really having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsfan Posted October 5, 2010 #8 Share Posted October 5, 2010 this will be our first cruise and with 3 kids it is so expensive travel. 3 years since our Disney holiday so this is a long time coming, and are trying to find the money for it. That being said we love the sun and beach and I for one will be :eek::eek: if we get bad weather in November! 3 kids on a boat and bad weather at ports, yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Mach* Posted October 5, 2010 #9 Share Posted October 5, 2010 One girl at my table said Jamaica was the only reason she booked this cruise. She had been to Jamaica. One was a first time cruiser, the other 2nd cruise. I do think the attitude I ran into was over the top from many, some felt they saw the storm approaching and that Carnival should never have tried to get into Jamaica, that Carnival should have given them a different port. Iv never run into so many who felt entitled and had unreasonable expectations. One couple said they owned a boat, they knew of the storm and called Carnival the night before we left and Carnival promised them if there was a storm they would go around it, that Carnival never drives into a storm. Iv seen it here on CC, people assuring newbies that Carnival wouldnt take them thru a storm, they will go around it. I think all of us on CC need to take a lesson from this with the assuranances I always see here on CC about how Carnival wouldnt take you into a storm. We did drive right thru and into the one hitting Jamaica. CC folks should also be more carefull telling folks we wouldnt ever be taken into a storm, that we will go around it. That was what made folks the maddest. We had to go thru the storm to get to Caymans too to try and get in. A quick point, Fly... Carnival and EVERY cruise line sails into storms, probably on a daily basis. Thunderstorms can produce localized winds far in excess of what we experienced on the Conquest. Indeed, that's what finally prevented us from docking in Montego Bay... not the sustained winds from the system but the gusts that battered the side of the ship as we made way toward the pier. If you look at the history of TS Nicole it wasn't a named storm until sometime after 8 AM on the 29th, the day we arrived at MoBay. Her position at that time was already north of Grand Cayman, in fact, it was very close to Cuba with winds in the vicinity of 35 knots. For that matter, it wasn't even a tropical depression until 10 AM on Tuesday. What I have said in the past, and I believe most of the others, was that Carnival will not sail you into a hurricane and there's quite a difference. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMaster Posted October 5, 2010 #10 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Just off "Legend" where we missed Grand Cayman, due to high winds, and rough seas. It would have been VERY hazardous for us to try and get into small boats to get to shore. As usual, some folks just couldn't accept that, and complained long and loud, but to be totally fair, far less were complaining than I've seen on past cruises when we missed a port. ;) Perhaps folks are finally starting to understand that these decisions are made with the safety of the passengers in mind! I'm sure Carnival lost money by missing that port! "SKY" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPete Posted October 5, 2010 #11 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Why is it so hard for people to accept that many cruisers can have fun even in bad weather or missing ports, etc. Some people just cannot accept when someone is having fun. I am glad that my group always find ways to have fun when cruising,even when we missed 2 ports. As someone who sails with the ship as my destination, I wouldn't have a problem UNLESS it was a specialzed cruise destination, like Bermuda or Hawaii. Only a couple of decks have direct links to weather, and even some of them have overhangs or enclosures. The rest of the ship is inside. I convert to NIGHT mode if the weather is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mali06 Posted October 5, 2010 #12 Share Posted October 5, 2010 OK, this has been explained to death but the point is . . . what about hurricane season (including tropical storms and more) don't you understand? If you choose to sail during this season, you are consenting to the risks involved! Carnival will never put it's passengers in harms way, thus you will experience some kind of inconvenience. Would it have been better to be in Jamaica and be flooded out of all of the excursions? Boy, I can hear the complaints now! Carnival has NO control over Mother Nature! Not even when it is NOT hurricane season. Can't you just have fun anyway? I just don't understand it! I just love being with my DH, and being alive! Everything else is gravy! After you have had breast cancer, these things all get put into a different perspective! Trust me, you don't want to have to go thru that in order to appreciate your life more . . . just appreciate it NOW! And quit wasting your time on finding fault with whatever! It is a waste of your time and life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSUmom Posted October 5, 2010 #13 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I try to have a good time even when things do not go as planned. It is kind of like the saying "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade" I know I would be disappointed too if I missed the ports but hey, I would still not be at work...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecruises Posted October 5, 2010 #14 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Sometimes the "storm" is so big and widespread and "moving" that it is impossible for the ship to totally outrun it for those who LOVE crusiing from Texas, Baltimore, California.... look at a map there is NOwhere to go really...you are where you are remember the swine flu boo hoo cruises...the ships had NO where to go but "up" the coast....the route from Southern California is go south to Mexico or go north to San Francisco, Settle, Canada look at a map that is why IF you choose to cruise in Hurricane season you are best off to cruise from South Florida here ships can go east or west...or even to the south look at a map problems in st thomas and puerto rico and st martin?? they can go western....or just putt around Bahamas, Grand Turk, Half Moon Key problems in Bahamas?? go west problems in the west?? go east or go to Bahamas they can make a cruise out of Key West and Bahamas if they need to and at least if they are out at sea it is warm If you are sailing from New York, or Baltimore or Texas etc and you hit a storm you have no where to go Even the ships that leave from Tampa are pretty much stuck in the Gulf of Mexico they don't have "time" to go east the so called "eastern" cruises from Texas and New Orleans are simply a run to the Bahamas There is a reason why cruising as we know it started from Florida..."geography, geography" ships can even get down to Aruba from here in one week, or go to lesser visted islands like Tortola etc there are many places to change course and visit NOT to mention that the Port of Miami is fantastic and easy to handle I was shocked to read of the shoddy treatment at the Galveston Port they should come here and take some lessons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted October 5, 2010 #15 Share Posted October 5, 2010 A quick point, Fly... Carnival and EVERY cruise line sails into storms, probably on a daily basis. Thunderstorms can produce localized winds far in excess of what we experienced on the Conquest. Indeed, that's what finally prevented us from docking in Montego Bay... not the sustained winds from the system but the gusts that battered the side of the ship as we made way toward the pier. If you look at the history of TS Nicole it wasn't a named storm until sometime after 8 AM on the 29th, the day we arrived at MoBay. Her position at that time was already north of Grand Cayman, in fact, it was very close to Cuba with winds in the vicinity of 35 knots. For that matter, it wasn't even a tropical depression until 10 AM on Tuesday. What I have said in the past, and I believe most of the others, was that Carnival will not sail you into a hurricane and there's quite a difference. :) I believe the couple called Carnival and some rep said of course Carnival wouldnt cruise into a storm ... these people had a boat and considered it a storm, named or not. I have seen many posters on CC who assure newbies ... dont worry, Carnival will go around a big storm. We sailed right back thru it, had to, in order to get back to the route to Cozumel. Im not saying what they did in protesting was right ... but I can see how folks could take the assurances wrong. I also have to kinda agree, there was no point in trying to get into Jamaica. If we had docked in that tropical rain, the excursions would have been mostly impossible. I had a great cruise, but it was the newbies that were the most upset and felt like it wasnt what they expected. Not a good first cruise for some!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Mach* Posted October 5, 2010 #16 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I believe the couple called Carnival and some rep said of course Carnival wouldnt cruise into a storm ... these people had a boat and considered it a storm, named or not. I have seen many posters on CC who assure newbies ... dont worry, Carnival will go around a big storm. We sailed right back thru it, had to, in order to get back to the route to Cozumel. Im not saying what they did in protesting was right ... but I can see how folks could take the assurances wrong. I also have to kinda agree, there was no point in trying to get into Jamaica. If we had docked in that tropical rain, the excursions would have been mostly impossible. I had a great cruise, but it was the newbies that were the most upset and felt like it wasnt what they expected. Not a good first cruise for some!!! lol Certainly not a good cruise for some but I met many folks new to cruising who understood what they contracted for and many more who understood after someone explained the contract to them. I told a number of folks if you want to be reasonably assured of getting to an island destination during hurricane season fly there. Having said that, about half of the flights to Sangster International were canceled soooooo... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICKnVICK Posted October 5, 2010 #17 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I try to have a good time even when things do not go as planned. It is kind of like the saying "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade" I know I would be disappointed too if I missed the ports but hey, I would still not be at work...:D Great attitude! And don't forget the vodka and call me over! Vicki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted October 5, 2010 #18 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Certainly not a good cruise for some but I met many folks new to cruising who understood what they contracted for and many more who understood after someone explained the contract to them. I told a number of folks if you want to be reasonably assured of getting to an island destination during hurricane season fly there. Having said that, about half of the flights to Sangster International were canceled soooooo... :rolleyes: I also explained to many that there just were not that many choices of other places to go to out of Galveston. But just a quiet word here or there. I did not want to get dragged into a 15 minute argument after it happened a few times. After a while you have to say this is my cruise too, and just shrug it off, if they wanted a audience to complain to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecruises Posted October 5, 2010 #19 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I also explained to many that there just were not that many choices of other places to go to out of Galveston. But just a quiet word here or there. I did not want to get dragged into a 15 minute argument after it happened a few times. After a while you have to say this is my cruise too, and just shrug it off, if they wanted a audience to complain to. and THAT is my point : your options are very limited due to geography ships leaving from south florida were able to either go the opposite route...disappointing perhaps but still 3 ports or whatever and some like Liberty skipped Grand Cayman and added Costa Maya the point is that when you sail from Texas...or New Orleans...or Baltimore..or even Tampa you have a LOT of distance you must cover and there are not many choices to 're route" IF you want a cruise that is smooth, book late april, early may, great weather, no diversions chances are you WILL get to tender at Grand Cayman in April IF you must cruise in hurricane season, south florida is your best bet all of the ports are not that "far' from here....the ships have room and time and options again ....LOOK at a map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Mach* Posted October 5, 2010 #20 Share Posted October 5, 2010 and THAT is my point : your options are very limited due to geography ships leaving from south florida were able to either go the opposite route...disappointing perhaps but still 3 ports or whatever and some like Liberty skipped Grand Cayman and added Costa Maya the point is that when you sail from Texas...or New Orleans...or Baltimore..or even Tampa you have a LOT of distance you must cover and there are not many choices to 're route" IF you want a cruise that is smooth, book late april, early may, great weather, no diversions chances are you WILL get to tender at Grand Cayman in April IF you must cruise in hurricane season, south florida is your best bet all of the ports are not that "far' from here....the ships have room and time and options again ....LOOK at a map Heheheheee... this made me laugh. I don't know how many of those folks, when I asked where else could we go, responded with 'There's HUNDREDS of islands out here!' Ummmm, no and so very few that could accommodate a cruise ship and NONE that we could reach that would have better weather. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerjen Posted October 5, 2010 #21 Share Posted October 5, 2010 In Oct of last year we were booked and ready to sail on the Carnival Splendor. As always, I was ready for another great cruise. Unfortunately, we had some bad luck the day before we left, then there was a hurricane & we missed Mazatlan. It took me about 20 minutes to get over my worries, once I was on the Lido deck with my DOD in hand. Sometimes things happen, but you have to focus on the good and enjoy your vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady_cruiser Posted October 5, 2010 #22 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Why is it so hard for people to accept that many cruisers can have fun even in bad weather or missing ports, etc. Some people just cannot accept when someone is having fun. I am glad that my group always find ways to have fun when cruising,even when we missed 2 ports. My feeling on this is that those adults (and I use this term losely) who pout and try to cause trouble because of missed ports are spoiled brats who never grew up. We just try and avoid these people whenever we can, go about our business and like you, enjoy our cruise. If we have to miss a port, or the itinerary changes, so-be-it. I'm on a cruise ship and that is all that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Wanna_Cruize Posted October 5, 2010 #23 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I try to have a good time even when things do not go as planned. It is kind of like the saying "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade" I know I would be disappointed too if I missed the ports but hey, I would still not be at work...:D When Life gives you lemons, hurry up and find some vodka to go with it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTabbyKats Posted October 5, 2010 #24 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Imagine what it would be like....you are all hyped up to go on your cruise.... you get on board....and you are told: Due to circumstances beyond Carnival's control 1. There will be NO chocolate melting cake 2. The bar will be closed 3. The casino will be closed 4. Food service will be limited to one entree per meal Now...would you still be enjoying the cruise? I'm not sure if Carnival has an obligation to provide you with any of the above. Isn't it that they just have to allow you to be on the ship...and provide food? Except for the casino...not of the above would affect me at all...so if it were sunny and the water calm...I'd be happy. :) People are allowed to be disappointed & unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Wanna_Cruize Posted October 5, 2010 #25 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Last spring we were on Splendor for a 7 day and the Captain backed into a tender pier while docking in Puerto Vallarta, damaging the end of the ship. We ended up stayed in Puerto overnight and missing Mazatlan altogether. Oh well, we didn't get to go to Stone Island, but stuff happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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