Smoking in cabins on balconies, irrespective of cruise line.

[Whitemarsh]

If I choose to over-indulge in the pastries offered at afternoon tea, that is my choice - no-one else's. No-one has the right to shove a chocolate éclair down my throat. Cunard is joining the rest of the world in trying to protect their customers from involuntarily indulging in other people's deadly habit.

 

It is my understanding that smoking will still be allowed in a few places, as it should be. Nicotine is an extremely difficult addiction to deal with. I know this from my father's experience and other people I have been close to. Perhaps a larger smoking room - which no-one, including staff, need to enter unless they wish to - could be made available out of compassion. It might even make good business sense. Cunard is not the first cruise line to impose strict smoking rules and they won't be the last.

 

I agree. A well placed smoking lounge with bar and dance floor would be optimal. I wouldn't mind betting that such a place would be the liveliest bar/lounge on the ship.

[brigittetom]

A "larger" smoking room isn't the issue....they've banned cigarettes from the smoking room they have now. Now that the complainers have won their final battle of eliminating smoking on the balconys....complaints are already creeping in about the awful smell of smoke in the Commodore Club by the Churchills door. I have to wonder why the offended insist on being in that area when it can so easily be avoided.

 

The " I don't care if I never use that area, I want it to be smoke free" attitude has just about done its job.

[Andiamo]

I would hope that something can be worked out re: a nice room (large enough to be used in comfort) for those who smoke when the balcony restrictions come to pass.

 

We are non-smokers but we have met so many nice people on board who do smoke and if the new policy forces them to look elsewhere that would a shame.

 

best regards,

seasidegal

 

I have enjoyed seeing you as a wonderful and kind contributor to this forum. It has been a true pleasure.

 

I just want to point out that it has been a normal and typical habit for a smoker to have that ciggie with their morning cuppa in the privacy of their cabin (presently balcony only) in their pj's, with their bed hair standing up. Also, while they are preparing to go out for the evening with their in-cabin libation. This will all disappear now. No special place to smoke now could possibly make up for that.

 

Kindest regards and thanks for your very kind understanding.

 

Jeanne

[brigittetom]

 

I just want to point out that it has been a normal and typical habit for a smoker to have that ciggie with their morning cuppa in the privacy of their cabin (presently balcony only) in their pj's, with their bed hair standing up. Also, while they are preparing to go out for the evening with their in-cabin libation. This will all disappear now. No special place to smoke now could possibly make up for that.

 

 

 

Jeanne

 

Oh yes, I forgot about those most important facts.

 

Seasidegal, I agree with Jean about your posts. :)

[Germancruiser]

Well I suppose that was to expect. In time the other cruise lines , who still allow smoking on the balcony ( as Costa, Carnival and RCI ) will follow suit in the not to distant future I suppose! Smokers are the minority these days so that will not effect their bookings I am pretty sure of that! Celebrity Cruises banned smoking on their balconies years ago- and are still in buisness!

Michael

[Salacia]

I agree. A well placed smoking lounge with bar and dance floor would be optimal. I wouldn't mind betting that such a place would be the liveliest bar/lounge on the ship.

 

That's a nice idea. But I enjoy a cigarette with my morning tea. A bar and a dance floor just wouldn't be on my agenda in the morning. To the best of my knowledge, I never bothered anyone sitting on my balcony, smoking a cigarette, early in the morning or before retiring for the evening. (If I heard anyone on the adjacent balconies, I would put out my cigarette.) Not to mention that more often than not, the wind was enough to blow the hair off a dog, so I have trouble understanding comments of those who complained about a lingering smell of cigarettes on their balcony. Ah well, once the smoking ban on balconies takes effect, they will have nothing to complain about, will they?

[BlueRiband]

....the wind was enough to blow the hair off a dog, so I have trouble understanding comments of those who complained about a lingering smell of cigarettes on their balcony. Ah well, once the smoking ban on balconies takes effect, they will have nothing to complain about, will they?

 

Yes. They will complain about having to jog through "clouds of smoke from chain smokers" on the promenade deck. Like all zero tolerance zealots, the anti-smoking crowd keeps pushing and pushing until they get what they want and when they get it it's not enough.

[Germancruiser]

Totaly agreed, they will complain complain complain- worst are the reformed smokers! Oh Dear! I sometimes wonder how the 40 + Generation made into adulthood. Their parents smoked their heads of in cars, bars, restaurants , during flight´s wherever, whenever they wanted no one cared about the kids who inhaled the second hand smoke- and wonder over wonders those kids survived!

[Cats2010]

"Those smoking on a balcony have the right to do since the ships companies allows it. I am sure that you knew it when booking your cruise. "

 

Rules are rules

 

Thanks! :)

[CruznTom]

Totaly agreed, they will complain complain complain- worst are the reformed smokers! Oh Dear! I sometimes wonder how the 40 + Generation made into adulthood. Their parents smoked their heads of in cars, bars, restaurants , during flight´s wherever, whenever they wanted no one cared about the kids who inhaled the second hand smoke- and wonder over wonders those kids survived!

 

Germancruiser, The ones who complain the loudest, get the job done. We all know that the nonsmokers filled out the suggestion cards faithfully complaining about smokers. One by one the smoking areas were eliminated and the smokers never complained, they just followed the new rules. Perfect example..the casino bar. That went from being a super popular bar to a derserted bar where you can't even get the attention of the bartender because he's busy playing on the computer.

 

Obviously Cunard is going to prosper without their smoking passengers but they have already gotten rid of 36 slot machines because the machines aren't being used. The blackjack tables are being downsized after 11pm because there aren't enough players. If there are enough players, doesn't matter because tables will still close and the people wanting to play will just have to wait for an available seat at the limited tables. And as they are eliminating smokers, they are offering free kids travel on the most desired route from Hamburg. Obviously Cunard knows what they are doing. We are going to miss the QM2 :)

 

Sorry, that was my post...Brigittetom

[Cats2010]

I sometimes wonder how the 40 + Generation made into adulthood. Their parents smoked their heads of in cars, bars, restaurants , during flight´s wherever, whenever they wanted no one cared about the kids who inhaled the second hand smoke- and wonder over wonders those kids survived!

 

Well, obviously they did and I am inclined to believe that smoking is not all that harmful to health as we are made to believe. I find that this campaign has tendencies of fanatism.

[MeredithFairfax]

Well, obviously they did and I am inclined to believe that smoking is not all that harmful to health as we are made to believe. I find that this campaign has tendencies of fanatism.

 

Really?

[capnpugwash]

This from Cunard today on Facebook

 

We can confirm that yes, following guest feedback and the results of recent customer research, Cunard are changing the smoking policy on board all ships and guests will no longer be permitted to smoke on stateroom balconies.

 

This change has been made for the safety and comfort of our guests and means that everyone will be able to enjoy full use of their private balconies, without the effect of drifting smoke.

 

Existing bookings on affected voyages will be notified by email today (or by post where we do not hold email addresses) and will be sent directly to the customer; travel agents will receive the mailing only if guest contact details were not been provided at the time of booking.

[Whitemarsh]

Really?

 

Actually, there may be more truth in that than we know. Sugar, and the harmful and unnatural additives they put in food these days, is probably doing you more harm than someone else's second hand smoke.

[MeredithFairfax]

Actually, there may be more truth in that than we know. Sugar, and the harmful and unnatural additives they put in food these days, is probably doing you more harm than someone else's second hand smoke.

 

I don't disagree with you - I'm quite sure that sugar in particular will prove to be quite harmful. There is quite a lot of stuff springing up in the press about it in recent months. However, we could use Cats2010's argument that this is just another thing we are told.

 

I think the point I was questioning is that Cats2010 believes that smoking is not that harmful to health and that this campaign has tendencies of fanaticism.

 

If people like to smoke and they know the risks - it's their choice - but why do smokers deny the facts? It's all a conspiracy they cry. :rolleyes:

[capnpugwash]

Second hand sugar also has a lot to answer for!!

[Cats2010]

 

If people like to smoke and they know the risks - it's their choice - but why do smokers deny the facts? It's all a conspiracy they cry. :rolleyes:

 

Sorry, but I do not deny that smoking can be harmful to health nor do I intend to create a conspiracy, which could rather be the intention of the first enquirer. All I say is that I find the initiative and the subsequent implementation in almost every aspect of our daily lifes rather exaggerated.

[MadScientist_01]

Well I'm looking forward enormously to the next campaign to ban something - after all, no-one seriously believes it will stop people complaining about things do they?

 

My vote is for a campaign against perfume-wearers and/or ugly people

[Cruachan]

Well I'm looking forward enormously to the next campaign to ban something - after all, no-one seriously believes it will stop people complaining about things do they?

 

My vote is for a campaign against perfume-wearers and/or ugly people

 

Hell's bells, I hope it's not the bit after the "/" or I'm doomed!

 

The current splenetic outpourings of hatred and rage all seem to be directed at cars.

 

J

[Norfolk Brit]

The current splenetic outpourings of hatred and rage all seem to be directed at cars.

J

 

You'll need that Q1 to fit a car on the balcony.

 

Sir Martin

[Cruachan]

You'll need that Q1 to fit a car on the balcony.

 

Sir Martin

 

Don't be daft. I've got a Panda - it'll fit anywhere! :D

 

J

[paulista1950]

Thanks! :)

 

I NEVER complain about rules of a game I accepted to play.

[Summergee]

I still think allowing smoking on the balconies on the starboard side of the ship would be fairer to smokers. I do not smoke myself but there should be give and take on both sides.

[BlueRiband]

Well I'm looking forward enormously to the next campaign to ban something - after all, no-one seriously believes it will stop people complaining about things do they?

 

My vote is for a campaign against perfume-wearers and/or ugly people

 

That's coming next. Somebody will complain that their allergies are triggered by irritants such as perfume. "Nowhere in the Cunard literature does it state that your cabin might reek of perfume from the previous passenger."

 

To paraphrase the recent Cunard statement, "Following guest feedback and the results of recent customer research, Cunard will no longer permit guests to wear fragrances within any seating area.

 

This change has been made for the safety and comfort of our guests and means that everyone will be able to enjoy full use of the public facilities without fear of irritants affecting their allergies.

 

Those guests who wish to wear scents are welcome to dine at the Boardwalk Cafe or on their own private balcony."

[Andiamo]

Personally, I'd like the garlic to disappear. Had to leave QG dining room from the smell/aroma. Lost my voice for a while that night. Now I leave after the first whiff, and return after a while to check that it has lessened.

 

Jeanne