P.A. Posted October 23, 2014 #1 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I hope Princess has the hand sanitizers throughout the ships now a days? Especially in the eating areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkmw Posted October 23, 2014 #2 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I hope Princess has the hand sanitizers throughout the ships now a days? Especially in the eating areas? i think most ships have them but some people dont use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSeaDog Posted October 23, 2014 #3 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They do, but the sanitizer is useless--it's only a bactericide, not virucide. Stupid that they don't change brands or force Purell to make a useful product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skynight Posted October 23, 2014 #4 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They do at all the food serve areas. On the Royal additionally there are sinks at the buffet entrance to wash up, but most just pass them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCruisers Posted October 23, 2014 #5 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The bad thing about hand sanitizer is that it gives people a false sense of security. Many people who use sanitizer don’t wash their hands. The very best way to avoid getting sick from noro virus, or other things, is by washing your hands. Make sure you wash your hands thoroughly and then you can use the hand sanitizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2cruzagain Posted October 23, 2014 #6 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I use to use the hand sanitizers all the time but was having problems because I would get even a paper cut and the wound would never heal. I finally found out that the hand sanitizer was the problem. Not only does it kill the bad germs...it kills the good germs which are needed! No more hand sanitizer for me! I wash, wash, wash! It is the safest and healthiest way. Edited October 23, 2014 by ready2cruzagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam in CA Posted October 23, 2014 #7 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Far, far more important than hand sanitizers is washing your hands. Most illnesses on a ship are viral, not bacterial, which means that sanitizers don't help much. They do help but it's a misconception that sanitizers prevent you from getting sick on a cruise. The bottom line, as ready2cruzagain says, Wash! Wash! Wash! Edited October 23, 2014 by Pam in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A. Posted October 23, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yes I totally agree to wash, wash, wash!! My hands are so dry because I wash so often. It irritates me to no end to see people come out of a bathroom stall and NOT wash their hands!! GROSS!! I would probably say something to that person too because it can effect me!! Hopefully people are more aware now since all this with Ebola. But I do know there are still STUPID people out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 23, 2014 #9 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Never been on any ship without it, but as said above, there is this stuff called soap and water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted October 23, 2014 #10 Share Posted October 23, 2014 My wife and I use the sanitizer but we also wash our hands frequently. We use the stairs most of the time and try to avoid the handrails as they are a huge spreader of germs. Soap and water are your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeSoCal Posted October 23, 2014 #11 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They had them all over on our cruise on the Golden. Never used them once. I have a thing called an "immune system" I let it do all the work. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2cruzagain Posted October 23, 2014 #12 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Yes I totally agree to wash, wash, wash!! My hands are so dry because I wash so often. It irritates me to no end to see people come out of a bathroom stall and NOT wash their hands!! GROSS!! I would probably say something to that person too because it can effect me!! Hopefully people are more aware now since all this with Ebola. But I do know there are still STUPID people out there. Same here until I found my favorite moisturizer. Raw, Virgin, Unrefined Coconut Oil. You can get a pint at Walmart for $8. It is awesome! Greasy at first but after 5 minutes it soaks in. Read up on it. Edited October 23, 2014 by ready2cruzagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A. Posted October 23, 2014 Author #13 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They had them all over on our cruise on the Golden.Never used them once. I have a thing called an "immune system" I let it do all the work. :cool: So are you one of those that walks out of the restroom without washing your hands?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeSoCal Posted October 23, 2014 #14 Share Posted October 23, 2014 So are you one of those that walks out of the restroom without washing your hands?? As I exit the restroom, my wife will always ask..."Did you wash your hands?" My go-to response...."I didn't get anything on them!" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scfc60 Posted October 23, 2014 #15 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Recently sailed on the Regal, and there were hand sanitisers at the entrance to the restaurants and also 2 sinks at each entrance to the Buffett. All great but no one there to make sure you used them. Sailed with NCL last year and you couldn't get anywhere near unless they saw you using sanitisers. Agree with previous comments that good hand washing, taking about 30 seconds being the best method to kill bugs. Singing happy birthday (to yourself in my case !!!!) twice should take you about 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 23, 2014 #16 Share Posted October 23, 2014 As I exit the restroom, my wife will always ask..."Did you wash your hands?" My go-to response...."I didn't get anything on them!" :D I once heard someone say to another in the restroom "Didn't your mother teach you to wash your hands?" An answer came directed: "She did teach me not to ... on them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topspot Posted October 23, 2014 #17 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I am one who refuses to use hand sanitizer on ships. I have an allergy to one of the inactive ingredients. I am a nurse and know the importance of GOOD HANDWASHING, and take washing my hands with correct technique very seriously. I often have to explain myself politely to staff as I enter the main dining room that I WILL NOT use hand sanitizer, but they are welcome to come with me to the restroom and I will re-wash my hands in their presence. I have yet to be taken up on the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJS Posted October 23, 2014 #18 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They do, but the sanitizer is useless--it's only a bactericide, not virucide. Stupid that they don't change brands or force Purell to make a useful product. Not entirely true Purell (and sanitizers with 60% or more alcohol) kill (rather, inactivates) some viruses but not all. Enveloped Viruses, such as flu viruses, have a lipid envelope that can be dissolved by the alcohol in Purell and it is thus effective against their infection. Non-enveloped viruses, such as Hepatitis A and common cold viruses, are less vulnerable to alcohol and so using Purell may not be effective against their virulence. It kills most viruses but not all. Per the CDC regarding noro-virus "Alcohol-based hand sanitizers can be used in addition to hand washing. But, they should not be used as a substitute for washing with soap and water." Hand washing is your best defense but when you can't wash your hands like after handling those "germ" laden menus in the dining rooms it will help to protect you from some viruses. We wash, wash , wash our hands but also use Purell. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketfulofsunshine Posted October 23, 2014 #19 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I wash my hands regularly on a ship (and all the time) and try not to use the public restrooms because most people don't. I also carry my own sanitizer. Edited October 23, 2014 by pocketfulofsunshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2cruzagain Posted October 23, 2014 #20 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Not entirely true Purell (and sanitizers with 60% or more alcohol) kill (rather, inactivates) some viruses but not all. Enveloped Viruses, such as flu viruses, have a lipid envelope that can be dissolved by the alcohol in Purell and it is thus effective against their infection. Non-enveloped viruses, such as Hepatitis A and common cold viruses, are less vulnerable to alcohol and so using Purell may not be effective against their virulence. It kills most viruses but not all. Per the CDC regarding noro-virus "Alcohol-based hand sanitizers can be used in addition to hand washing. But, they should not be used as a substitute for washing with soap and water." Hand washing is your best defense but when you can't wash your hands like after handling those "germ" laden menus in the dining rooms it will help to protect you from some viruses. We wash, wash , wash our hands but also use Purell. . I have never been offered hand sanitizer after reviewing the menu...therefore, after ordering dinner I excuse myself and wash my hands. As I said before, it kills the good germs and not worth it IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJS Posted October 23, 2014 #21 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I have never been offered hand sanitizer after reviewing the menu...therefore, after ordering dinner I excuse myself and wash my hands. As I said before, it kills the good germs and not worth it IMHO. I commend you but doubt there are very many that do get up after reviewing the menu. If everyone we come in contact with was as fastidious as you are none of us would have to worry. We all have to base our decisions on what we feel is best for us. I choose to believe what Purell has to say that even hand washing reduces those good germs and with either method they will regenerate very quickly. Per Purell " Laboratory testing has never shown alcohol-based hand sanitizers like PURELL® to lead to bacterial resistance. Germs live all around us. Our bodies are covered with germs that help us stay healthy. These are considered "good" germs and, since they reside on the body, are referred to as resident germs. In addition to the good germs, we are also exposed to ones that we pick up from contact with other people or objects. These are called transient germs. It is these germs that are often responsible for making you sick. Similar to washing your hands with soap and water, PURELL® products reduce some of your resident germs while killing the transient germs. However, in both cases, your body quickly regenerates your resident germs which are generally harmless and actually important for healthy skin. " . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruiseprincess Posted October 24, 2014 #22 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I gave up on the sanitizer a few years ago when the skin between my fingers would start to crack. Just wash your hands & take your chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 24, 2014 #23 Share Posted October 24, 2014 They do, but the sanitizer is useless--it's only a bactericide, not virucide. Stupid that they don't change brands or force Purell to make a useful product. It's not stupid, since there is no brand that is effective against viruses (noro), and the only really effective ingredients are bleach (which you don't want on your hands, unless you wash afterwards) or other chemicals that should not be ingested like vircon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Cruiser78 Posted October 24, 2014 #24 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Deleted. Edited October 24, 2014 by Ryndam2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerin Posted October 24, 2014 #25 Share Posted October 24, 2014 You could always bring your own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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