What is there to do in Caribbean Port over nights?

[janewe]

It's interesting the "Poll" has over 7,000 views, but only 183 who cared enough to provide an opinion.

 

Likely anyone with a strong opinion to keep it would have voted to add their number to grow the poll.

 

So 6,800 of the 7,000, or 97%, have no strong opinion one way or the other.

As an RCI shareholder, are you at all concerned now for the long term value given the strategy of canceling the likes of Infinity bookings for September and October for Charters coupled with dropping Ports for over nights?

 

Are customers not going to rely on their future bookings and going to the Ports they booked to visit? Will this in turn not put a significant number of potential future Cruisers off and they make other arrangements thus effecting revenue and share holder value?

[K.T.B.]

Could be because the poll asks for opinions from people who "currently" have a Caribbean cruise booked.

 

Bingo.

 

And to cle-guy: I've viewed this thread numerous times, but I only posted a few times. It's probably 5-1 viewing to posting for me. The number of views doesn't mean 7,000 different people have seen this thread, it's just that various people have clicked on it 7,000 times. It could be the same 200 or so people. The only ones who definitely know are the admins of the site.

 

So your percentage is way off.

[Olive1950]

I have no issues at all with overnights. In fact, like everything else in life these situations are all down to what you make of them and so I'm sure on my affected cruise we'll have the chance to really enjoy ourselves in Aruba overnight.

 

However it would have made far more sense to me to roll this programme out in 2018 so that people would not have faced disappointment. Doing so would not have left some customers feeling disappointed and losing confidence in the brand. Those who welcome the overnights on their new itinerary wouldn't have missed out in any way.

 

This appears to me to be another case of Celebrity $ (My new name for Celebrity X) putting profit before customer satisfaction. But... Rather than complain, maybe I should buy stock in RCCL because the flock of sheep that sing their praises regardless of how badly they treat their customers doesn't seem to be getting any smaller. :D

 

I like your new name for Celebrity. in fact, they need to replace that big old X with a big old $.

 

They shouldn't wait until drydocks to make the change. They should do it while the ships are overnighting in the Caribbean ports. And they can use the profits from their many charters to pay for the changes....

[Hlitner]

Well, prostitution is legal in Curacao..... :eek:

 

Not sure if that's the kind of nightlife Celebrity is eager for its passengers to enjoy while staying there overnight.

 

Hmmm. Perhaps that is exactly what Celebrity had in mind when they changed the itinerary. After all, there are lots of single men among the crew :)

 

Hank:D:D

[villauk]

It's interesting the "Poll" has over 7,000 views, but only 183 who cared enough to provide an opinion.

 

Likely anyone with a strong opinion to keep it would have voted to add their number to grow the poll.

 

So 6,800 of the 7,000, or 97%, have no strong opinion one way or the other.

 

Could be because the poll asks for opinions from people who "currently" have a Caribbean cruise booked.

 

As Ma Bell stated, many of us didn't vote as we haven't currently got a Caribbean cruise booked that is affected. This was clearly stated on the first post ;). Curt, are you saying you voted but are not booked on one of these cruises?

[cle-guy]

As an RCI shareholder, are you at all concerned now for the long term value given the strategy of canceling the likes of Infinity bookings for September and October for Charters coupled with dropping Ports for over nights?

 

Are customers not going to rely on their future bookings and going to the Ports they booked to visit? Will this in turn not put a significant number of potential future Cruisers off and they make other arrangements thus effecting revenue and share holder value?

 

AS a shareholder, I LOVE it when full ship charters happen. They are VERY lucrative to the cruise lines. As a passenger, I love them, because that means that revenue helps keep standard cabin fares steady over time. Less marketing expense to X, guaranteed gratuity payments to all staff (grats need prepaid and can not be modified in Charters), no lost revenue due to 123 packages, OBC offers, free gratuities; drink packages are not sold, so people are paying fore everything they buy.

 

The lost revenue from PAX who walk away and not rebook that are displaced is minimal. All lines do it so the logic "I'm leaving celebrity for another line" doesn't hold water. Well, guess what, as many who leave Celebrity like this are coming to Celebrity from MSC, Princess, RCL, Carnival etc. SO a net overall zero loss, as borne out by the occupancy of ships continuing to sail full and over capacity.

 

As a shareholder, I'm delighted Celebrity took time to survey people about the desire for overnights (I received such a survey several months back) and have listened to those people, and have started to add some overnights. Following their sister brand Azamara who is touting their current success based a lot on their extended and overnight port calls. The overnights will attract a new cruising crowd, younger demographic who want nightlife, and will offer cost savings from the reduced use of fuel. All positive effects to the bottom line.

 

All of these things are good things for me as a shareholder, and frankly, me as a passenger.

 

Customers can rest assured that the vast majority of their bookings will remain unchanged. Celebrity has changed some itineraries, and other lines change them too. However customers should not ever believe 100% when booking with any line that they will visit all ports of call on an itinerary - this is why there are contract terms and conditions, which of course in cases lie this, many choose to think they shouldn't apply when in fact they do.

[hcat]

Aside from discussion of the poll,I did not get many great ideas about what to do overnight in ports...except sleep on board after a night without shops or casino...

 

St Martin...eat on shore...we usually do that for lunch...for dinner the best places are likely are on French side and cabs over there are expensive

 

Nothing exciting for Cozumel..except,chichen itza..far away..

 

Curacao..sounded ok but we lost that overnight stay to Aruba..we .have done dinner there without overnights when ship departed at 11 p.m. for next port, so no big thrill there.

 

and the suggestion to enjoy a local beach at night really made me pause....not a good plan safety wise! Maybe years ago.,.not now.

 

guess we'll find out what folks actually do when we take our newly revised by X itins...interestingly the west indies itin on Az that we are looking at does not feature overnights!

[janewe]

AS a shareholder, I LOVE it when full ship charters happen. They are VERY lucrative to the cruise lines. As a passenger, I love them, because that means that revenue helps keep standard cabin fares steady over time. Less marketing expense to X, guaranteed gratuity payments to all staff (grats need prepaid and can not be modified in Charters), no lost revenue due to 123 packages, OBC offers, free gratuities; drink packages are not sold, so people are paying fore everything they buy.

 

The lost revenue from PAX who walk away and not rebook that are displaced is minimal. All lines do it so the logic "I'm leaving celebrity for another line" doesn't hold water. Well, guess what, as many who leave Celebrity like this are coming to Celebrity from MSC, Princess, RCL, Carnival etc. SO a net overall zero loss, as borne out by the occupancy of ships continuing to sail full and over capacity.

 

As a shareholder, I'm delighted Celebrity took time to survey people about the desire for overnights (I received such a survey several months back) and have listened to those people, and have started to add some overnights. Following their sister brand Azamara who is touting their current success based a lot on their extended and overnight port calls. The overnights will attract a new cruising crowd, younger demographic who want nightlife, and will offer cost savings from the reduced use of fuel. All positive effects to the bottom line.

 

All of these things are good things for me as a shareholder, and frankly, me as a passenger.

 

Customers can rest assured that the vast majority of their bookings will remain unchanged. Celebrity has changed some itineraries, and other lines change them too. However customers should not ever believe 100% when booking with any line that they will visit all ports of call on an itinerary - this is why there are contract terms and conditions, which of course in cases lie this, many choose to think they shouldn't apply when in fact they do.

From Zacks, latest RCI earnings

 

I see passenger ticket revenues were down 3.1 % and on board revenues down 5.6% year over year. As a shareholder you will be hoping that's not a trend. As a customer, my concern would be more cost cutting, eliminating Ports etc. This solves a short term problem but it could cause a long term problem.

 

Quarter Highlights

 

On a constant currency basis, net yields declined 1% year over year. This was within the company's guidance of 1.5% to 2% decrease. Strong close-in pricing on Caribbean sailings drove the better-than-anticipated performance.

 

Passenger ticket revenues were down approximately 3.1% year over year to $1.31 billion. Onboard and other revenues also declined 5.6% year over year to $508.8 million.

 

Net cruise costs (NCC), excluding fuel, increased 0.9% on a constant currency basis, lower than management’s expected range of 2% to 3% increase. Better cost control led to better-than-expected cruise costs.

 

Total cruise operating expenses decreased approximately 6.2% year over year to $1.2 billion mainly due to a drop in onboard and other expenses, fuel costs and other operating costs.

[richsea]

It's interesting the "Poll" has over 7,000 views, but only 183 who cared enough to provide an opinion.

 

Likely anyone with a strong opinion to keep it would have voted to add their number to grow the poll.

 

So 6,800 of the 7,000, or 97%, have no strong opinion one way or the other.

 

It is interesting, especially when you realize that the OP asked that only people who booked the affected cruises respond. However, there are a multitude of CC members that are interested in the results, so naturally look in. I'm not booked, but I know I did, as did you. And I bet that some voted even though they are not on the affected sailings. 700 views; how many times have YOU viewed it? I come back about every day. Too bad the poll can't be limited to the select few that have been directly affected by the change. I would venture that the resulting percentages would be vastly different. What's the saying, " you can make the numbers say anything you want"?

Edited June 8, 2015 by richsea

[cle-guy]

From Zacks, latest RCI earnings

 

I see passenger ticket revenues were down 3.1 % and on board revenues down 5.6% year over year. As a shareholder you will be hoping that's not a trend. As a customer, my concern would be more cost cutting, eliminating Ports etc. This solves a short term problem but it could cause a long term problem.

 

Quarter Highlights

 

On a constant currency basis, net yields declined 1% year over year. This was within the company's guidance of 1.5% to 2% decrease. Strong close-in pricing on Caribbean sailings drove the better-than-anticipated performance.

 

Passenger ticket revenues were down approximately 3.1% year over year to $1.31 billion. Onboard and other revenues also declined 5.6% year over year to $508.8 million.

 

Net cruise costs (NCC), excluding fuel, increased 0.9% on a constant currency basis, lower than management’s expected range of 2% to 3% increase. Better cost control led to better-than-expected cruise costs.

 

Total cruise operating expenses decreased approximately 6.2% year over year to $1.2 billion mainly due to a drop in onboard and other expenses, fuel costs and other operating costs.

 

And if you read their guidance they started talking about last fall, they let the shareholders know that the winter and spring quarters were going to be challenging, as they have been for most lines. In their notes for QE 3/31 they indicate a big part of the reduced revenue is the falling currency rates that hit them hard, as well as the general over saturation of the Caribbean Market.

 

Although revenue are down, expenses are as well, and net income was $45,230,000 this year vs. $26,457,000 last year for QE 3/31. I'll take net profit over increased revenues any day. Means more profits while doing less work.

 

They generally expect these slower quarters to be offset by gains in the Asia and Europe cruises. This is why they are moving ships from Caribbean to Asia and Europe full time (connie has 1 more caribbean season then gone to Asia/Middle East as an example, Anthem is rehoming as well after its maiden year over here).

 

The competition in the Caribbean is so tight, capacity so high, lines are moving ships away these days as they are finding the fares to be held down with all the capacity and competition.

Edited June 8, 2015 by cle-guy

[WpgCruise]

From Zacks, latest RCI earnings

 

I see passenger ticket revenues were down 3.1 % and on board revenues down 5.6% year over year. As a shareholder you will be hoping that's not a trend. As a customer, my concern would be more cost cutting, eliminating Ports etc. This solves a short term problem but it could cause a long term problem.

 

Quarter Highlights

 

On a constant currency basis, net yields declined 1% year over year. This was within the company's guidance of 1.5% to 2% decrease. Strong close-in pricing on Caribbean sailings drove the better-than-anticipated performance.

 

Passenger ticket revenues were down approximately 3.1% year over year to $1.31 billion. Onboard and other revenues also declined 5.6% year over year to $508.8 million.

 

Net cruise costs (NCC), excluding fuel, increased 0.9% on a constant currency basis, lower than management’s expected range of 2% to 3% increase. Better cost control led to better-than-expected cruise costs.

 

Total cruise operating expenses decreased approximately 6.2% year over year to $1.2 billion mainly due to a drop in onboard and other expenses, fuel costs and other operating costs.

 

While the above is all well and good......................................

 

On a consolidated basis the shares I bought in RCL cost $18. Todays value is $78.19. The rest is supporting information.

 

This would suggest to me that Leadership of the Company has a better idea on how to run a cruise ship company than us on Cruise Critic.

 

As far as I know none of us have been asked by RCL or Celebrity to sit at their Management table..........................probably because we don't have the skills necessary to generate the type of return we as shareholders demand.

 

Here's my perspective on the decision by Celebrity to change itineraries.

 

They have asked their existing client base (and I expect target market) by way of a sampling for their input.

 

They have made a decision based on that input.

 

Contractually they are able to do this.

 

Yes, some will not be pleased, but others will embrace the change.

 

I believe they need to do what they need to do to attract and maintain their Client base and if that means some of us have to find something else to do, so be it. In business You cannot be everything to everybody.

 

We don't all have to like the decisions the Company makes. Apparently the Company has information that has supported or perhaps even driven them to make this decision.

 

Me, I think it's a great idea. I'm looking forward to an overnight in the Caribbean, and plan on taking full advantage of the opportunity.

Edited June 8, 2015 by WpgCruise

[janewe]

And if you read their guidance they started talking about last fall, they let the shareholders know that the winter and spring quarters were going to be challenging, as they have been for most lines. In their notes for QE 3/31 they indicate a big part of the reduced revenue is the falling currency rates that hit them hard, as well as the general over saturation of the Caribbean Market.

 

Although revenue are down, expenses are as well, and net income was $45,230,000 this year vs. $26,457,000 last year for QE 3/31. I'll take net profit over increased revenues any day. Means more profits while doing less work.

 

They generally expect these slower quarters to be offset by gains in the Asia and Europe cruises. This is why they are moving ships from Caribbean to Asia and Europe full time (connie has 1 more caribbean season then gone to Asia/Middle East as an example, Anthem is rehoming as well after its maiden year over here).

 

The competition in the Caribbean is so tight, capacity so high, lines are moving ships away these days as they are finding the fares to be held down with all the capacity and competition.

You seem to be very well informed. Can you shed some light on the drop in expenses.

I know fuel costs are down but what about the the other items "on board and other expenses, other operating expenses". I haven't perused the annual report but you probable have.

 

Where have they cut back? Thanks

[The bubble]

Our cruise is affected by the new Caribbean overnights, and we are not happy. As far as we are concerned, we will just stay on the ship. Not looking for any trouble getting off the ship at night. Too much of a risk in our opinion.

[wallie5446]

Our cruise is affected by the new Caribbean overnights, and we are not happy. As far as we are concerned, we will just stay on the ship. Not looking for any trouble getting off the ship at night. Too much of a risk in our opinion.

 

First, welcome to Cruise Critic! Always great to see new members.

 

Second, what Caribbean ports have you cruised to before?

 

Our first was in 1990, because we don't count The Bahammas in 1987, tho the over night in Nassau has been our only one to date, and the tour we took was simply amazing.

 

So looking for trouble? That would be south Dallas after 7:00 pm even most sensible Dallas PD officers won't go there after dark. The Country's that gave overnight stops in the Carribean know who feeds their population, US! The cruisers! We will be taken care of better there than in Ferguson or Baltimore. Those places are a risk. Just my worthless opinion, but you won't get us to visit either of those U.S. Cities.

[janewe]

Our cruise is affected by the new Caribbean overnights, and we are not happy. As far as we are concerned, we will just stay on the ship. Not looking for any trouble getting off the ship at night. Too much of a risk in our opinion.

It would appear that it's not only the southern Islands that have issues with tourist crime. Google crime in Nassau. Four separate security alerts from the U.S. State Dept. over the past number of months. The article by the New York Times on all the rapes and robberies on tourists is a real eye opener. One would be foolhardy to ignore the crime statistics.

[Host Jazzbeau]

cle-guy has it right: "the general over saturation of the Caribbean Market." Cruise lines are doing pretty well in most places around the world, but the Caribbean has become totally over-saturated with mega-ships and European lines jumping into the market. Celebrity has a limited number of ships, none at this point "new," and a pretty major commitment to the Caribbean in winter -- so they have to do something to distinguish themselves from all those other offerings. Overnights has indeed worked very well for Azamara [think of all the weak points of a near-luxury line with only 2 ships, both of which were built in 2000 -- which many CC posters consider antediluvian], so why not give this concept a chance to raise Celebrity above the commodity-mass market Carnival-NCL-Royal toward the near-luxury Azamara-Oceania-Regent category? I agree that the concept works better in the Mediterranean, but the real problem is in the Caribbean. So -- do you have a better idea to help Celebrity rise above the commodity level and generate more Caribbean bookings?

[Christine Frances]

It would appear that it's not only the southern Islands that have issues with tourist crime. Google crime in Nassau. Four separate security alerts from the U.S. State Dept. over the past number of months. The article by the New York Times on all the rapes and robberies on tourists is a real eye opener. One would be foolhardy to ignore the crime statistics.

 

This is the Canadian Gov't security warning for the US. I guess maybe we shouldn't go there either.

 

http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states

Edited June 9, 2015 by Christine Frances

[janewe]

cle-guy has it right: "the general over saturation of the Caribbean Market." Cruise lines are doing pretty well in most places around the world, but the Caribbean has become totally over-saturated with mega-ships and European lines jumping into the market. Celebrity has a limited number of ships, none at this point "new," and a pretty major commitment to the Caribbean in winter -- so they have to do something to distinguish themselves from all those other offerings. Overnights has indeed worked very well for Azamara [think of all the weak points of a near-luxury line with only 2 ships, both of which were built in 2000 -- which many CC posters consider antediluvian], so why not give this concept a chance to raise Celebrity above the commodity-mass market Carnival-NCL-Royal toward the near-luxury Azamara-Oceania-Regent category? I agree that the concept works better in the Mediterranean, but the real problem is in the Caribbean. So -- do you have a better idea to help Celebrity rise above the commodity level and generate more Caribbean bookings?

With all due respect, you are completely missing the point.

 

We booked and paid for a specific itinerary and Celebrity moved the goal posts on us. We all know through the fine print they can get away with this but is it right?

 

You are in the minority in agreeing with a handful of posters on C.C. I urge you to read the threads where you will find a slew of upset customers.

 

I don't want to re hash the main points here as I am sure the minority will come up with counter points and while it may come as a surprise to some, I do have another life.

 

I am convinced that Celebrity has got the message loud and clear that folks don't like what they are doing. Will they re consider? I think the reality is, regrettable, that dollars will over ride the questionable decision to deprive us of a Port. From looking at their latest earnings and a focus on cutting costs that would appear to be the case.

 

As I said all along, I believe their approach is short sighted. You just can't treat your customers like this. I have no problem if they want to institute giving up Ports for overnights for new cruises i.e. ones say 18 months out where people can make new plans. I don't buy the competition getting a leg up on them.

 

My last point is that over nights could actually hurt the brand though problems encountered by cruisers out over night. That's a risk they are willing to take in return for an earnings boost from sitting beside a dock for two days.

Edited June 9, 2015 by janewe

[janewe]

This is the Canadian Gov't security warning for the US. I guess maybe we shouldn't go there either.

 

http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states

It reads normal!

 

The implication of your Post is to down play the serious nature of the crime epidemic in the Caribbean. Why do you feel that's the right thing to do?

[Host Jazzbeau]

With all due respect, you are completely missing the point.

 

We booked and paid for a specific itinerary and Celebrity moved the goal posts on us. We all know through the fine print they can get away with this but is it right?

 

You are in the minority in agreeing with a handful of posters on C.C. I urge you to read the threads where you will find a slew of upset customers.

 

No "due respect" needed. But you are missing the point that cle-guy and I were addressing, which is the bottom line for Celebrity as a cruise line. I admit that the overwhelming number of posters here has been against this change (and vehemently so) -- but Cruise Critic posters are a small minority of Celebrity customers [no matter what we think!]. The cruise industry is dividing into two categories: mass market vs near-luxury and above. Celebrity was founded to be near-luxury, but they run the risk of getting lumped into the mass market -- where the only way to succeed is constant cutting to allow low fares. This is especially so in the Caribbean market, which has become over-saturated with mass-market cabins. So Celebrity is trying everything they can think of ("Modern Luxury" "The Grass is Greener") to distinguish themselves from Carnival, MSC, Norwegian, Royal, etc., so as to justify the fares they need to maintain the quality we all expect. Maybe this isn't a good idea -- but then [as I always told my staff] you need to suggest an alternative solution.

 

PS -- posts 221 and 224 on this thread <http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2211719> show that Celebrity's Caribbean overnights are actually very appealing to some people. Their bet is there are more of them than there are who don't like the idea.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Host Jazzbeau

[Christine Frances]

It reads normal!

 

The implication of your Post is to down play the serious nature of the crime epidemic in the Caribbean. Why do you feel that's the right thing to do?

 

So where in the Caribbean do you think it is safe? And if it is that bad why do you have a cruise booked there?

 

This is an example of an Azamara itinerary Two overnights and two late departures.

 

DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART

Wed Oct 26 New Orleans, LA 6:00pm

Thu Oct 27 At Sea

Fri Oct 28 At Sea

Sat Oct 29 Cancun (Playa del Carmen), Mexico 7:00am 6:00pm

Sat Oct 29 Cozumel, Mexico 8:00pm

Sun Oct 30 Cozumel, Mexico 2:00pm

Mon Oct 31 At Sea

Tue Nov 1 Port Antonio, Jamaica 9:00am 10:00pm

Wed Nov 2 At Sea

Thu Nov 3 La Romana (Casa de Campo), Dominican Republic 8:00am 7:00pm

Fri Nov 4 St. Maarten 6:30pm

Sat Nov 5 St. Maarten 7:00pm

Sun Nov 6 Antigua 8:00am 10:00pm

Mon Nov 7 Nevis, British West Indies 8:00am 6:00pm

Tue Nov 8 Virgin Gorda, British Virgin Islands 7:30am 4:00pm

Wed Nov 9 At Sea

Thu Nov 10 At Sea

Fri Nov 11 Miami, FL 6:00am

Edited June 9, 2015 by Christine Frances

[WpgCruise]

It would appear that it's not only the southern Islands that have issues with tourist crime. Google crime in Nassau. Four separate security alerts from the U.S. State Dept. over the past number of months. The article by the New York Times on all the rapes and robberies on tourists is a real eye opener. One would be foolhardy to ignore the crime statistics.

 

Yes indeed, crime is everywhere.

 

I see you live in Thornhill, and I note the following headlines:

 

5 of 7 York Region-area suspected gangsters released on bail

Worldwide child pornography investigation leads to arrests in Markham, Richmond Hill, East Gwillimbury, King

Gangs target high-end homes in York Region break-ins

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: The cold cases of York Region

Thornhill man charged in Toronto sex assault

 

You're implying tourists would be unsafe on an overnight cruise in the Caribbean. My question would be how safe are you in Thornhill ? Should people avoid Thornhill because there is violent crime there ?

 

Of course not. There is crime in all of our Communities. Our City has the label of The Murder Capital of Canada. Do tourists avoid coming here ? No, the tourist industry is alive and doing very well. How about Miami ? Not exactly the safest City. Are you saying people shouldn't go there either ?

 

I respect the passion you bring to your argument, but trying to incite fear to make your point leads me to discount your entire argument, and that's too bad as you do have some valid points.

 

Twisted statistical interpretation and fear mongering just don't add anything to your support your position.

Edited June 9, 2015 by WpgCruise

[wallie5446]

With all due respect, you are completely missing the point.

 

Yes indeed, the true point is that the remaining days on a Celebrity ship is far superior to any other line that includes the missed country, port, stop, however you want to classify it. Which is ultimately the reason you remain booked this far in advance, full well knowing the changes that have been made. Or you would take, just as it is with us, your very hard earned take home pay, and spend it with another venue that could give you one day of bliss.

 

I so truly hope that you find something that fits for you, as it is evident if you retain the booking you will have the most miserable vacation to date.

[janewe]

So where in the Caribbean do you think it is safe? And if it is that bad why do you have a cruise booked there?

 

This is an example of an Azamara itinerary Two overnights and two late departures.

 

DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART

Wed Oct 26 New Orleans, LA 6:00pm

Thu Oct 27 At Sea

Fri Oct 28 At Sea

Sat Oct 29 Cancun (Playa del Carmen), Mexico 7:00am 6:00pm

Sat Oct 29 Cozumel, Mexico 8:00pm

Sun Oct 30 Cozumel, Mexico 2:00pm

Mon Oct 31 At Sea

Tue Nov 1 Port Antonio, Jamaica 9:00am 10:00pm

Wed Nov 2 At Sea

Thu Nov 3 La Romana (Casa de Campo), Dominican Republic 8:00am 7:00pm

Fri Nov 4 St. Maarten 6:30pm

Sat Nov 5 St. Maarten 7:00pm

Sun Nov 6 Antigua 8:00am 10:00pm

Mon Nov 7 Nevis, British West Indies 8:00am 6:00pm

Tue Nov 8 Virgin Gorda, British Virgin Islands 7:30am 4:00pm

Wed Nov 9 At Sea

Thu Nov 10 At Sea

Fri Nov 11 Miami, FL 6:00am

Why don't you do your own research?

 

I think you know very well I have been alluding to after dark. Beyond saying that, I don't believe your post merits any further reply.

[cruiseJMO]

http://nightspublications.com/curacao

 

http://www.curacao-travelguide.com/discover/nightlife/

 

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g147277-Activities-Curacao.html#TtD

 

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g147277-Activities-Curacao.html#TtD

 

http://caribya.com/curacao/nightlife/

 

http://www.islands.com/top-5-things-do-curacao

 

 

Just a few links for you to peruse until your cruise which stops there.

 

btw - I would recommend checking these and other possible links on google or bing or whichever search engine you use as your cruise gets closer if it is more than six months out.

 

bon voyage

That's awesome, thanks!