How common is it for passengers to be thrown off ship

[donaldsc]

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As the port visit was already short some tours were cancelled and others very rushed like ours.

 

I don't imagine the kids were very popular with their families as this was the last port before home and would have created a lot of additional costs for them or the people who missed their tours and may not get the opportunity to cruise again.

 

I wonder if a lawyer would take a suit where the rest of the passengers sued the families of the kids for ruining the rest of the cruise. That would be sort of cool and a large cost for the kid's families.

 

DON

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[donaldsc]

I'm not sure if you're referring to the fact that some passengers behave so badly that they deserve being thrown off or if you're referring to the fact that some are being thrown off.

 

Quite frankly, I wish the cruise lines would make a major deal out of throwing a passenger off the ship. Announce that tours will be delayed so that a passenger can be removed. Announce when it happens so that every one can watch. Announce why the passengers are being removed. Make sure that everyone knows that if they will get thrown off for misbehavior.

 

Also announce the phone numbers, physical address and e-mail addresse of the miscreants. Unfortunately, this will never happen.

 

The same thing should happen when a flight is forced to land somewhere else because of the bad behavior of a passenger.

 

DON

[clackey]

You're right. Some scumbag lawyer would take the case, intentional public embarrassment. Maybe some lawyers should be publically embarrassed.

 

There was thread a year or two ago about a lawyer who raised a stir about missing a port because of weather conditions. I believe that it was Grand Cayman. He had several people agitated and wanted OBC and refunds for missing the port. He and his family were escorted off in Jamaica.

 

On one trip to Calica we were standing watch for pier runners and had notice luggage stacked by the walk near the gate. The gang way was being moved when a taxi arrived and two men ran to the gate only to be stopped by a guard. They were allowed to collect their luggage only after the gang way was removed and the ship was underway. I have no idea what they were guilty of, but it was evident that they had been ousted.

[GUT2407]

I wouldn't say it's common, but it happens.

 

Normally you need to do something pretty bad.

[h20skibum]

Have seen it happen on a few of our cruises, but it was mainly for illegal drugs.

 

Have also seen them bring the drug dogs onboard.

[SherriZ366]

There was thread a year or two ago about a lawyer who raised a stir about missing a port because of weather conditions. I believe that it was Grand Cayman. He had several people agitated and wanted OBC and refunds for missing the port. He and his family were escorted off in Jamaica.

 

On one trip to Calica we were standing watch for pier runners and had notice luggage stacked by the walk near the gate. The gang way was being moved when a taxi arrived and two men ran to the gate only to be stopped by a guard. They were allowed to collect their luggage only after the gang way was removed and the ship was underway. I have no idea what they were guilty of, but it was evident that they had been ousted.

I heard about that -- was it RCI or Princess. Heard the lawyer tried to storm the door to the bridge and give them his suggested route.

[Krazy Kruizers]

We have cruised since the 80's and have seen it happen quite a few times.

In fact on our first cruise, there were a bunch of fans (all girls) on our Cunard Countess cruise for the Philadelphia Flyers even though there weren't any Flyers on the cruise -- just a fan club.

They got so drunk and obnoxious that when we got to Barbados they were put off the ship. Barbados gave them 24 hours to fly out before they would be arrested.

Have no idea what happened to those girls -- about 30 of them.

[Parramatta]

I wonder if a lawyer would take a suit where the rest of the passengers sued the families of the kids for ruining the rest of the cruise. That would be sort of cool and a large cost for the kid's families.

 

DON

 

Never heard anymore about this other than from other cruisers on cruise critic, but I have to say this apparently occurred after curfew, which says something in itself about curfew and about ensuring it is followed ( please don't flame me ).

[jeph]

In reading through the posts on this thread, it occurs to me that since the ships involved often have 1500 or 2000 or even 2500+ cabins, having ONE cabin with drunken or possibly criminal miscreants is a pretty good ratio...If only the crime rate were that low back on land! ;)

[vacation luvver]

Things that I have read about in the past include refusal to attend muster

I think this is very strange, because when I was on a March, 2014 sailing of the Norwegian Breakaway from NYC, the ship picked up about 30 passengers in Port Canaveral, FL. I asked them if they had to attend a muster drill, and they said that the crew couldn't have cared less about it. The passengers were on their honor to watch a movie about it on the TV in their cabin. So, on the one hand, some people got thrown off a ship for refusing to attend muster drill, but on the other hand, some people were allowed to board another ship where there were no provisions for them to attend a muster drill even if they really wanted to.

 

Very strange.

[DocF]

Since attendance at the muster is a requirement of the U.S. Coast Guard, I suppose that failure to do so could result in expulsion.

 

From reading other threads that are current on CC and personal observation, I know that being excessively drunk, creating a disturbance over seating in the show lounge, fighting over a pizza, public nudity, cheating in the casino, and excessive consumption of alcohol while on a port call all can be cause for being left in a port along the way. Crimes usually result in putting the perp in the brig or in irons (or both) until back to the U.S., where the perp is then handed off to law enforcement.

 

I would say that each ship on the opular or entry level lines evicts a passenger about every two weeks. On the higher end lines, I would expect this less often.

[kdunn6]

When the Carnival Paradise was a non-smoking ship. We saw a couple left on the dock in St. Thomas,we thought it was because they were caught smoking on board.

[Cruzaholic41]

I think this is very strange, because when I was on a March, 2014 sailing of the Norwegian Breakaway from NYC, the ship picked up about 30 passengers in Port Canaveral, FL. I asked them if they had to attend a muster drill, and they said that the crew couldn't have cared less about it. The passengers were on their honor to watch a movie about it on the TV in their cabin. So, on the one hand, some people got thrown off a ship for refusing to attend muster drill, but on the other hand, some people were allowed to board another ship where there were no provisions for them to attend a muster drill even if they really wanted to.

 

Very strange.

 

That's the difference between a lackluster cruise line and one that takes this sort of thing seriously. I know of a couple being removed from a HAL ship for attempting to hide out in their room and refusing to attend the drill.

[AussieVisi2r]

I did a Christmas cruise on Rhapsody - Christmas 2014.

AT EVERY STOP people were escorted off by police. Some in handcuffs.

I have never seen anything like it. There was even a huge punch up in Centrum while waiting for Christmas Carols at 10pm on Christmas Eve.

Three "ladies" who were travelling as a group had a fight over seating.Then the husbands joined in.

 

One family were thrown off in Newcastle. About 100 miles north of Sydney on the first morning. That was a very expensive night on a ship.

Why - Supplying alcohol to minors!

 

Raina

[wwcruisers]

Celebrity Constellation had one of those rare (5 niter) "Animal House" spring break cruises, last March. :eek: Heard from friends who were on it that the worst offenders were put off in Key West.

[Haoie]

If I recall, there's always some fine print in one's cruise contract that one can be ejected from the ship at any stage, for any reason [with no legal recourse?].

[Lady Chew]

On our cruise on Liberty of the Seas several years ago (our first balcony!) there were two interior rooms just down from us, each with 4 young men, 20-somethings. They were all completely blitzed when we first getting to our cabins ... the party continued ... they were very disruptive during muster (in the MDR) and security was called.

 

The first day was a sea day, so it was formal night. One of the young men got lucky, and didn't return to his cabin until the wee hours. Uh-oh, he had forgotten his tux jacket ... went back to the woman's room and started banging on the door. She wouldn't open it, so he got louder & louder & more obnoxious, started with name-calling ... of course he was at the wrong cabin.

 

When we woke up (early) the next morning, there was a security officer outside the door ... several of them from both cabins were put off. The officer told us "happens all the time"

[Capt_BJ]

I don't understand .....

 

MANY people have posted about how they have SEEN the 'brig' on cruise ships ...... why weren't these arrested and taken there?

[notentirelynormal]

I don't understand .....

 

MANY people have posted about how they have SEEN the 'brig' on cruise ships ...... why weren't these arrested and taken there?

 

Maybe they've done behind the scenes tours. Just a guess on my part.

[CaveDiving]

When the Carnival Paradise was a non-smoking ship. We saw a couple left on the dock in St. Thomas,we thought it was because they were caught smoking on board.

 

I sincerely doubt anyone would actually be put off a ship for smoking. Talked to, yes. Told it was not acceptable, yes. Warned, yes. Had cigarettes confiscated, yes.

 

But put off the ship, extremely doubtful.

 

Scot & Karen

[PoppyandNana]

I sincerely doubt anyone would actually be put off a ship for smoking. Talked to, yes. Told it was not acceptable, yes. Warned, yes. Had cigarettes confiscated, yes.

 

But put off the ship, extremely doubtful.

 

Scot & Karen

First offense a talking to. Second offense a $250 fine. Third off the ship c

[SantaFeFan]

First offense a talking to. Second offense a $250 fine. Third off the ship.

 

Yep, that's the policy on several cruise lines today.

[donaldsc]

First offense a talking to. Second offense a $250 fine. Third off the ship c

 

Should be kicked off for the 2nd, not the 3d offense.

 

DON

[AussieVisi2r]

I don't understand .....

 

MANY people have posted about how they have SEEN the 'brig' on cruise ships ...... why weren't these arrested and taken there?

 

There is definitely a brig on all ships but they are very rarely used. Like once in 5 years type thing.

 

The reason, I have been told by Captains, is there is a big difference in someone being confined to their room and being locked up in a jail. Not many captains want to find themseleves involved in a lawsuit/chrages for "False Imprisonment/Wrongful Detention". If locked in their rooms they are just being denied the advantages of the ship not False Imprisonment/Wrongful Detention.

 

R