geri Posted December 26, 2015 #1 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Just got off 2 weeks on the STAR Princess. Everyone on our area of the ship had issues with dysfunctional toilets for the first 4 days do to someone putting ridiculous things in the toilet such as washcloths, chicken bones, apple cores and lemons. When the culprit was found the problems stopped. (No....it wasn't a child doing this!) Why someone would do this when I seriously doubt they'd do it in their own home is beyond me. I also doubt people who read cruise critic would do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted December 26, 2015 #2 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Unfortunately its been happening for ever. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam in CA Posted December 26, 2015 #3 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Surprisingly, quite a few people bring their own TP because they don't like the TP on the ship, which also screws up the plumbing, and then they blame Princess for their stupidity. Edited December 26, 2015 by Pam in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted December 26, 2015 #4 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Surprisingly, quite a few people bring their own TP because they don't like the TP on the ship, which also screws up the plumbing, and then they blame Princess for their stupidity. True Above^^^^ It needs to be Marine Grade TP! LuLu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcv77 Posted December 26, 2015 #5 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I wasn't aware of the special tp, but would never take up valuable packing space by bringing my own. I can live without my preferred brand for quite some time😉 As for people not putting silly things down the toilet at home, my HOA newsletter is always reminding people of what should/shouldn't be put down the toilet or garbage disposal. Most of the units are owner occupied, so even ownership doesn't confer good sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted December 26, 2015 #6 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I see the TP issue as one of people needing education--it isn't intentional damage, it is people not knowing any better. Flushing "things" other than what the toilet is meant for is vandalism--intentional damage to the system. Those people should be charged for the problems they have caused and permanently banned from cruising the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sptrout Posted December 26, 2015 #7 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Last week during our Caribbean Princess cruise, I noticed that the facial tissue container (under the bathroom sink) was empty. I asked our attendant to please fill the container and he said that Princess no longer provides facial tissue because of people putting them in the toilet. I said that was a stupid thing to do (flushing facial tissue) and he agreed to supply us with tissue both in the bathroom and in the main cabin area adding that he trusted us. I guess we looked trust worthy. Long story, but if you are missing facial tissue there is a reason and it is not the attendant's fault. (BTW - - My wife and I both thought that our cabin attendant was the best we have had in several years. Extremely friendly and helpful.) Darn; I just remembered, I forgot to mention him in the Princess Survey that we got a day or two after getting home. I will have my wife give me a swift kick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted December 26, 2015 #8 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Just got off 2 weeks on the STAR Princess. Everyone on our area of the ship had issues with dysfunctional toilets for the first 4 days do to someone putting ridiculous things in the toilet such as washcloths, chicken bones, apple cores and lemons. When the culprit was found the problems stopped. (No....it wasn't a child doing this!) Why someone would do this when I seriously doubt they'd do it in their own home is beyond me. I also doubt people who read cruise critic would do it! What is wrong with people? They were replacing quite a bit of pipe on the Caribbean Princess earlier this month. Washcloths were one of the things our room steward mentioned as being a big problem with clogged pipes.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Kinkacruiser Posted December 26, 2015 #9 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I see the TP issue as one of people needing education--it isn't intentional damage' date=' it is people not knowing any better. Flushing "things" other than what the toilet is meant for is vandalism--intentional damage to the system. Those people should be charged for the problems they have caused and permanently banned from cruising the line.[/quote'] I agree that there should be serious consequences for the passengers identified as the culprits of this vandalism. They cause their fellow passengers and crew huge problems with blockages and subsequent flooding of cabins. Why anyone would want to do this with the intentionally and cause disruption is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredie Posted December 26, 2015 #10 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Last week during our Caribbean Princess cruise, I noticed that the facial tissue container (under the bathroom sink) was empty. I asked our attendant to please fill the container and he said that Princess no longer provides facial tissue because of people putting them in the toilet. I said that was a stupid thing to do (flushing facial tissue) and he agreed to supply us with tissue both in the bathroom and in the main cabin area adding that he trusted us. I guess we looked trust worthy. I have seen a box of facial tissue in every bathroom this year, including two weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sptrout Posted December 26, 2015 #11 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I have seen a box of facial tissue in every bathroom this year, including two weeks ago. Who knows? I was just quoting what we were told. Seems to be believable based on other comments in this thread. Maybe a Caribbean Princess thing since they have been burned recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metairiegal Posted December 26, 2015 #12 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I have seen a box of facial tissue in every bathroom this year, including two weeks ago. 12/14/15 Emerald Princess had a box in the bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted December 26, 2015 #13 Share Posted December 26, 2015 We had tissues on the 11/29 Caribbean Princess cruise, both in the bathroom and in the bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredie Posted December 26, 2015 #14 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Who knows? I was just quoting what we were told. Seems to be believable based on other comments in this thread. Maybe a Caribbean Princess thing since they have been burned recently? I would think it's a steward thing. I have heard various implausible things from stewards over the years that directly contradicted the experience of my friends on the same ship with different stewards. (My favorite was, "We only provide ice if you ask for it.) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted December 26, 2015 #15 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I have seen a box of facial tissue in every bathroom this year, including two weeks ago. I have to say that we experienced the missing tissue box and empty dispenser in the bathroom scenario in our Island suite last month and in our Coral balcony in October! Not sure what they are attempting to do with this. I was not happy. After I mentioned it to Stewart there ended up being 4 boxes placed strategically throughout the stateroom. Have to have tissues. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted December 26, 2015 #16 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Flushing "things" other than what the toilet is meant for is vandalism--intentional damage to the system. Vandalism requires General intent. Merely flushing something in a toilet that causes damage isn't sufficient to prove intent to destroy or deface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted December 26, 2015 #17 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Were on the Regal in late Oct and we had tissues in the cabin! As to somebody intentionally putting stuff down the commodes, the penalty should be quite simply. A lifetime ban from all CCL owned ships. Hank Edited December 26, 2015 by Hlitner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynbar Posted December 26, 2015 #18 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Interesting thread. i along with everyone else laughed at the washcloth story ---- but I have to admit I have thought of bringing our own TP, we're partial to a certain brand here at home and I've never liked the kind provided on cruise ships. I have never actually done it, mostly because of packing issues, but I had no idea it could cause a plumbing problem. Lesson learned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted December 27, 2015 #19 Share Posted December 27, 2015 A couple of years ago I read a question from someone about the brand/type of toilet paper supplied on the ships. After hearing what was supplied, the person said they would bring their own favourite brand.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted December 27, 2015 #20 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I agree that there should be serious consequences for the passengers identified as the culprits of this vandalism. They cause their fellow passengers and crew huge problems with blockages and subsequent flooding of cabins. Why anyone would want to do this with the intentionally and cause disruption is beyond me. How do you prove intent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted December 27, 2015 #21 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Vandalism requires General intent. Merely flushing something in a toilet that causes damage isn't sufficient to prove intent to destroy or deface. Only to a lawyer. Any "normal" person knows that you don't flush a wash cloth down the toilet. And the other items mentioned make it clear that this was not an issue where a wash cloth got really nasty and the room inhabitant couldn't figure out what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted December 27, 2015 #22 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Only to a lawyer. Any "normal" person knows that you don't flush a wash cloth down the toilet. And the other items mentioned make it clear that this was not an issue where a wash cloth got really nasty and the room inhabitant couldn't figure out what to do with it. Princess won't make that judgment call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted December 27, 2015 #23 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Last week during our Caribbean Princess cruise, I noticed that the facial tissue container (under the bathroom sink) was empty. I asked our attendant to please fill the container and he said that Princess no longer provides facial tissue because of people putting them in the toilet. I said that was a stupid thing to do (flushing facial tissue) and he agreed to supply us with tissue both in the bathroom and in the main cabin area adding that he trusted us. I guess we looked trust worthy. Long story, but if you are missing facial tissue there is a reason and it is not the attendant's fault. (BTW - - My wife and I both thought that our cabin attendant was the best we have had in several years. Extremely friendly and helpful.) Darn; I just remembered, I forgot to mention him in the Princess Survey that we got a day or two after getting home. I will have my wife give me a swift kick! Not sure the facial tissue story was true, we still had plenty on Diamond a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted December 27, 2015 #24 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Wonder if they throw all this other stuff in the toilet at home:confused::eek::( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted December 27, 2015 #25 Share Posted December 27, 2015 How do you prove intent? If it is possible to identify the source cabin, it's only common sense that cotton cloth material is not to go down any toilet. Perhaps proof of stupidity is sufficient. I would have a senior hotel manager give them "whatfor" and assess a cleaning fee (as in smokers caught) and advise them that any repeat will result in them being put ashore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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