Merion_Mom Posted February 19, 2016 #1 Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://m.capemaycountyherald.com/news/article_0db4c9c8-d422-11e5-93fb-4b572cf0f10b.html?mode=jqm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbonfiber Posted February 19, 2016 #2 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Old News....Lets Move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc Posted February 19, 2016 #3 Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://m.capemaycountyherald.com/news/article_0db4c9c8-d422-11e5-93fb-4b572cf0f10b.html?mode=jqm Nice to see a positive out look for a change ......must be a true northern cruiser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted February 19, 2016 #4 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 19, 2016 #5 Share Posted February 19, 2016 ""The turn exposed our starboard (right) side to the full force of the wind for about 30 minutes and produced a fairly constant list (tilt) to port side (left) of about 15-20 degrees. " That's the "just throw the pants out" moment for me. I didn't realize it took 30 minutes to make that turn. that's brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 19, 2016 #6 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thanks for sharing the article:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX-Cruisers Posted February 19, 2016 #7 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) The story in the attached link should make ALL of those passengers on the Anthem grateful that they were on a ship and not an airplane in a much lesser storm. Hope this helps a bit to ease the pain you all endured and on the things we endure during our "vacation travel" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2016/02/18/four-hour-flight-turns-into-30-hour-nightmare-for-delta-passengers/ Edited February 19, 2016 by OBX-Cruisers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Cruisers Posted February 19, 2016 #8 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Old News....Lets Move on Wow, rude much? :rolleyes::( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd10367 Posted February 19, 2016 #9 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Ok.. We were on this cruise and it wasn't bad like Crowley said. However, this was his 3rd cruise where something happened. I now reserve the right to check the passenger manifest and if he is on any of my next sailings, I should be able to rebook at ANY time. His luck is bound to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 19, 2016 #10 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Ok.. We were on this cruise and it wasn't bad like Crowley said. However, this was his 3rd cruise where something happened. I now reserve the right to check the passenger manifest and if he is on any of my next sailings, I should be able to rebook at ANY time. His luck is bound to change. LOl, yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 19, 2016 #11 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The story in the attached link should make ALL of those passengers on the Anthem grateful that they were on a ship and not an airplane in a much lesser storm. Hope this helps a bit to ease the pain you all endured and on the things we endure during our "vacation travel"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2016/02/18/four-hour-flight-turns-into-30-hour-nightmare-for-delta-passengers/ WOW, luckily I have never had it that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croozin Soozin Posted February 19, 2016 #12 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Ok.. We were on this cruise and it wasn't bad like Crowley said. However, this was his 3rd cruise where something happened. I now reserve the right to check the passenger manifest and if he is on any of my next sailings, I should be able to rebook at ANY time. His luck is bound to change. I had the same thought as I read the story! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 19, 2016 #13 Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://m.capemaycountyherald.com/news/article_0db4c9c8-d422-11e5-93fb-4b572cf0f10b.html?mode=jqm Thanks Carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonschooner Posted February 19, 2016 #14 Share Posted February 19, 2016 ""The turn exposed our starboard (right) side to the full force of the wind for about 30 minutes and produced a fairly constant list (tilt) to port side (left) of about 15-20 degrees. " That's the "just throw the pants out" moment for me. I didn't realize it took 30 minutes to make that turn. that's brutal. I don't understand why you say that is brutal. How long would you think it would take . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DragonOfTheSeas Posted February 19, 2016 #15 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Ok.. We were on this cruise and it wasn't bad like Crowley said. However, this was his 3rd cruise where something happened. I now reserve the right to check the passenger manifest and if he is on any of my next sailings, I should be able to rebook at ANY time. His luck is bound to change. BaHaHa. I felt the same way reading one of the other Anthem threads. One CC poster mentioned he had been on the Hurricane Sandy out of Bayonne cruise, also and was comparing the two voyages. . . . I thought they should make note of his cruises so we can all avoid them :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 19, 2016 #16 Share Posted February 19, 2016 ""The turn exposed our starboard (right) side to the full force of the wind for about 30 minutes and produced a fairly constant list (tilt) to port side (left) of about 15-20 degrees. " That's the "just throw the pants out" moment for me. I didn't realize it took 30 minutes to make that turn. that's brutal. While it may or may not have taken 30 minutes (time drags when your sitting like that), it's all about timing. The ship would have been "hove to" with the wind and seas slightly off the bow. Now, wind and seas do not normally come from the exact same direction, so the helmsman is trying to balance between the two to minimize rolling and pitching. Now, he eases the helm over (you don't want to do anything quickly in that kind of weather), and a sea comes from the direction you are turning to, and throws the bow back. Try again, different timing in relation to seas, little more helm. Same result. Try again, and repeat. You have to have a fine feel for what the waves are doing in order to turn a ship around in weather like that. Also, once broadside to the wind, she will want to stay that way, as the wind force on the bow and stern are equal. Fine seamanship by the Captain, the bridge crew, but especially the helmsman who accomplished the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted February 19, 2016 #17 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Great interview and account of the storm...I identified with him more than any other account I've read. This is how we would've reacted. BTW, when beating or close hauled on the ocean in our Catalina, the list is almost always a constant 10 to 12 degrees and sometimes 15* with gusts. So I have experienced that. It is scary, especially on a small boat but quite exhilarating! What next...:cool: Edited February 19, 2016 by BecciBoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQSally Posted February 19, 2016 #18 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Regarding your rough ride in the Med. What time of year was that. Only been on 2 Med cruises but both times seas were calm...it was June and the other July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJonTravel Posted February 19, 2016 #19 Share Posted February 19, 2016 While it may or may not have taken 30 minutes (time drags when your sitting like that), it's all about timing. The ship would have been "hove to" with the wind and seas slightly off the bow. Now, wind and seas do not normally come from the exact same direction, so the helmsman is trying to balance between the two to minimize rolling and pitching. Now, he eases the helm over (you don't want to do anything quickly in that kind of weather), and a sea comes from the direction you are turning to, and throws the bow back. Try again, different timing in relation to seas, little more helm. Same result. Try again, and repeat. You have to have a fine feel for what the waves are doing in order to turn a ship around in weather like that. Also, once broadside to the wind, she will want to stay that way, as the wind force on the bow and stern are equal. Fine seamanship by the Captain, the bridge crew, but especially the helmsman who accomplished the turn. I've kept my mouth shut during most of this Anthem drama, but I've enjoyed reading and learning from you throughout. So, I'll end my silence by saying thank you for being here. I'm an aviator by training and education, but a wannabe sailor at heart. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njmomof2 Posted February 19, 2016 #20 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) While it may or may not have taken 30 minutes (time drags when your sitting like that), it's all about timing. The ship would have been "hove to" with the wind and seas slightly off the bow. Now, wind and seas do not normally come from the exact same direction, so the helmsman is trying to balance between the two to minimize rolling and pitching. Now, he eases the helm over (you don't want to do anything quickly in that kind of weather), and a sea comes from the direction you are turning to, and throws the bow back. Try again, different timing in relation to seas, little more helm. Same result. Try again, and repeat. You have to have a fine feel for what the waves are doing in order to turn a ship around in weather like that. Also, once broadside to the wind, she will want to stay that way, as the wind force on the bow and stern are equal. Fine seamanship by the Captain, the bridge crew, but especially the helmsman who accomplished the turn. Anyone who has been on a bridge tour sees the incredibly advanced automation that makes up the controls running the ship. However, after reading Chengkp75's description of turning the ship above, you realize that in the end, these kinds of maneuvers are made by experienced, skilled crew who aren't just button pushers and knob movers. It's not always like playing a video game with the little joystick. Edited February 19, 2016 by njmomof2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenfever Posted February 19, 2016 #21 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Regarding your rough ride in the Med. What time of year was that.Only been on 2 Med cruises but both times seas were calm...it was June and the other July. Use Mr. Google and search the Brilliance cruise of December 13, 2010 in the Med and you will find that those folks went through probably worse conditions than Anthem with many injuries and 1 death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lionesss Posted February 19, 2016 #22 Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://m.capemaycountyherald.com/news/article_0db4c9c8-d422-11e5-93fb-4b572cf0f10b.html?mode=jqm Thanks appreciated you taking the time to share this report. Safe travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted February 19, 2016 #23 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Use Mr. Google and search the Brilliance cruise of December 13, 2010 in the Med and you will find that those folks went through probably worse conditions than Anthem with many injuries and 1 death. Had a friend on that one. In fact we discussed it the other day after Anthem and she recounted she was thrown across her cabin out of bed, everyone was sleeping. Her friend in next cabin said her TV crashed on the floor glass everywhere. Everyone missed Egypt, very disappointed. She sent me a picture of a waterspout out her 3rd deck porthole when it happened and the Christmas tree smashed on the floor. That one was a duzzy:eek: Edited February 19, 2016 by BecciBoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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