Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #26 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) If we start keeping track, we might be able to know by external IP address. True, with some networking skills, one might be able to figure it out. But I'm not sure it makes much diff - the bottom line is that in northern/southern latitudes (>45 deg) your WiFi will be slower (down to the old Internet levels) even if you have real Voom. Edited May 3, 2016 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #27 Share Posted May 3, 2016 OvationBased on one report - Jewel Based on a second report, the Jewel may not have Voom. The first report was not really conclusive and second puts Voom availability into doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky0000547 Posted May 3, 2016 #28 Share Posted May 3, 2016 http://m.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1253/the-fastest-internet-at-sea-now-available-fleetwide-only-on-royal-caribbean/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted May 3, 2016 #29 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) We will likely never know if the ship is on O3B or the older satellite service when north of 45 deg latitude. I assume that when the O3B speed drops enough (somewhere between 45 and 62 deg latitude), the Internet service will switch to the older system. So Baltic, Norther Europe, Alaska, round the Horn cruises will never have full speed Voom. Voom is just a marketing term - for the ships that have the hardware to support it and are in the correct position on earth, that will mean an O3B connection. so when I do the speedtest, after it is done, It asks me if I'm on O3B Networks USA LLC:confused: Edited May 3, 2016 by jonbgd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #30 Share Posted May 3, 2016 so when I do the speedtest, after it is done, It asks me if I'm on O3B Networks USA LLC:confused: Depending on the whose app or web site you use to perform the speed test it may mention vendors, but we only care about the speed and ping (what most customers care about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #31 Share Posted May 3, 2016 http://m.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1253/the-fastest-internet-at-sea-now-available-fleetwide-only-on-royal-caribbean/ Interesting that it doesn't mention that the current Voom pricing is only a promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted May 3, 2016 #32 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Depending on the whose app or web site you use to perform the speed test it may mention vendors, but we only care about the speed and ping (what most customers care about). I'm on speedtest . net the #'s are still about the same as when we were in port Now halfway between Nassau and Puerto Rico Ping 189 download .42 upload .25 So no Voom on Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #33 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Ping 189 download .42 upload .25 So no Voom on Indy I don't know - I didn't think a ping that low is possible without Voom. Which package did you buy, SURF or SURF+STREAM? Edited May 3, 2016 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 3, 2016 #34 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I don't know - I didn't think a ping that low is possible without Voom. Which package did you buy, SURF or SURF+STREAM? Could be Voom throttled back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #35 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Could be Voom throttled back. Right, so SURF could be limited to say 500 KBs - that's a big delta from the 25MBs possible for STREAM. Need more data points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serialcruiser48 Posted May 3, 2016 #36 Share Posted May 3, 2016 VOOM O3b ping rates will ALWAYS be much lower than high orbit satellite. Ping rates for low orbit O3b satellite should be less than 300 ms. Ping rates for high orbit satellite will be more than 600 ms and the service will mostly suck. When I was on the Allure ping rates were about 276ms and up to 25 Mbps download for the whole ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coochuck Posted May 3, 2016 #37 Share Posted May 3, 2016 So what do we need to 'Facetime', with audio or video, SURF or SURF+STREAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobnJac Posted May 3, 2016 #38 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Independence of the Seas Jacquie's really pleased as she is able to watch her soaps from UK Tv, Eastenders and Corrie. Thanks to the abilty to stream, If only we had brought our Samsung remote we may have been able to change the input to HDMI and watched episode 2 of Game of Thrones too. 4 meg down 2 up. Lots of nice people on this ship looks like its going to be a memorable crossing. Edited May 3, 2016 by BobnJac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #39 Share Posted May 3, 2016 So what do we need to 'Facetime', with audio or video, SURF or SURF+STREAM? You will likely need STREAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 3, 2016 #40 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Independence of the Seas 4 meg down 2 up. I think that pretty clear indication that real Voom is available on Indy. I assume you had the STREAM package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted May 3, 2016 #41 Share Posted May 3, 2016 http://m.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1253/the-fastest-internet-at-sea-now-available-fleetwide-only-on-royal-caribbean/ Interesting that it doesn't mention that the current Voom pricing is only a promo. Because the press release mentions the non discounted prices ;-): Surf 12.99 USD / 30% discount: 9.99 USD Stream 17.99 USD / 30% discount: 12.99 USD steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ched999uk Posted May 3, 2016 #42 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As I am on the Navigator later this year I decided to ask RC about Voom and the bandwidth I was likely to receive and if it would work in cabins. OK so I was not expecting a proper reply but never hurts to ask :). Here is the answer: 'As of the 1st of May, all of our Royal Caribbean fleet has Voom high speed internet service onboard. We do not have the specifics on how much bandwidth you will have using this service, but you can rest assured that you will be able to use this in your cabin. Once we get more technical information we will let you know.' So still none the wiser.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 3, 2016 #43 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As I am on the Navigator later this year I decided to ask RC about Voom and the bandwidth I was likely to receive and if it would work in cabins. OK so I was not expecting a proper reply but never hurts to ask :). Here is the answer: 'As of the 1st of May, all of our Royal Caribbean fleet has Voom high speed internet service onboard. We do not have the specifics on how much bandwidth you will have using this service, but you can rest assured that you will be able to use this in your cabin. Once we get more technical information we will let you know.' So still none the wiser.... I can tell you that the WiFi already does work inside all the staterooms, so at least you have that info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobnJac Posted May 3, 2016 #44 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I think that pretty clear indication that real Voom is available on Indy. I assume you had the STREAM package? Yup we dont do cheap[emoji6]we have to maintain contact at all times. Glad they brought Voom and Surf on otherwise contemplating a sat phone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbcruiser1 Posted May 3, 2016 #45 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On the Independence now. Voom is available - went live on May 1st (first day of our cruise). I have the surf package and unfortunately it is extremely spotty throughout the ship! I have a full wifi signal everywhere onboard, but in many areas it can't connect to the server! This includes my OV stateroom on deck 3 near the aft elevators, the MDR, the Pyramid lounge on deck 5, etc. I went to notify guest services last night and was basically told I can either cancel it for a refund, or "use it in public areas". I informed the man that it's being advertised to work all over the ship and doesn't even work in all of the public areas... I basically got the "tough luck" response. So it's not so much the speed that's a problem, but the actual connection with the server. I don't think having Stream would change that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted May 4, 2016 #46 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think that pretty clear indication that real Voom is available on Indy. I assume you had the STREAM package? I spoke with guest services they called IT and got these #'s the speeds on the stream pkg are suppose to be Upload 24mb Download 12 MB the surf pkg is suppose to be upload 4 mb download 2mb And I'm not getting anywhere close to that:confused: Guest services also confirmed it isn't as fast as the Allure currently. They still need to install the antennas like they did on the FREEDOM. Not sure when they will do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 4, 2016 #47 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I spoke with guest services they called IT and got these #'s the speeds on the stream pkg are suppose to be Upload 24mb Download 12 MB the surf pkg is suppose to be upload 4 mb download 2mb And I'm not getting anywhere close to that:confused: Guest services also confirmed it isn't as fast as the Allure currently. They still need to install the antennas like they did on the FREEDOM. Not sure when they will do that Thanks for this, first time I've seen actual target numbers from the cruise line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotswold Eagle Posted May 4, 2016 #48 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Thanks for this, first time I've seen actual target numbers from the cruise line. I think the down and up are the wrong way round, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 4, 2016 #49 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think the down and up are the wrong way round, though. +1, if SURF really is supposed to be 4MB down, there would be no need for STREAM - you can do just about anything at that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 4, 2016 #50 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think the down and up are the wrong way round, though. Good catch, I didn't even pay attention to that, but I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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