suebug17 Posted June 27, 2016 #1 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm going on a 4 day cruise to Mexico in November. Do I really HAVE to have a passport? I won't be getting off the ship at all due to mobility problems, but the rest of my family will. We all have birth certificates and drivers licenses. Anyone else travel with out a pass port? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted June 27, 2016 #2 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm going on a 4 day cruise to Mexico in November. Do I really HAVE to have a passport? I won't be getting off the ship at all due to mobility problems, but the rest of my family will. We all have birth certificates and drivers licenses.Anyone else travel with out a pass port? Thanks for your help. If you are a US citizen, and the cruise starts and ends at the same US port, all you need is a certified copy of your birth certificate and a government issued photo ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted June 27, 2016 #3 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm going on a 4 day cruise to Mexico in November. Do I really HAVE to have a passport? I won't be getting off the ship at all due to mobility problems, but the rest of my family will. We all have birth certificates and drivers licenses.Anyone else travel with out a pass port? Thanks for your help. Clarea covered it well. However, I'll just point out that, if something were to happen and you have to fly home from a foreign port, you'll HAVE to have a passport. And, yes, some people just travel with their birth certificate and photo ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted June 27, 2016 #4 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Always best to go ahead and get a US Passport. Be happy you can. Many people in the world would kill to have one. Edited June 27, 2016 by OCruisers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMLady Posted June 27, 2016 #5 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm going on a 4 day cruise to Mexico in November. Do I really HAVE to have a passport? I won't be getting off the ship at all due to mobility problems, but the rest of my family will. We all have birth certificates and drivers licenses.Anyone else travel with out a pass port? Thanks for your help. Clarea summarized it well that if you are a US citizen and it is a closed loop cruise, that is leaving from and returning to the same port, you don't need a passport. I want to add that if you did need a passport it wouldn't matter that you don't plan to leave the ship. As soon as the ship enters that country's waters passengers are in that country. So, if a passport were needed, the ship wouldn't let you board without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treven Posted June 27, 2016 #6 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Clarea summarized it well that if you are a US citizen and it is a closed loop cruise, that is leaving from and returning to the same port, you don't need a passport. I want to add that if you did need a passport it wouldn't matter that you don't plan to leave the ship. As soon as the ship enters that country's waters passengers are in that country. So, if a passport were needed, the ship wouldn't let you board without one. This is muy important, but it wouldn't apply to your particular cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suebug17 Posted June 27, 2016 Author #7 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Thanks everyone for your help!!:):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted June 27, 2016 #8 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Could get a passport card. Friends have this as the only international travel they do is the three day cruise out of Los Angeles. But yes, you could just use your birth certificate and Gov't ID. Edited June 27, 2016 by SadieN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted June 27, 2016 #9 Share Posted June 27, 2016 We would never think about leaving the country without our passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 27, 2016 #10 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Always best to go ahead and get a US Passport.Be happy you can. Many people in the world would kill to have one. Too much depends upon the individual travelers needs, in some cases a passport is nothing but a waste of money. I live 8 miles from the border and know many people whose only travel is across that border frequently and they get by just fine with one of the alternatives to a passport. As long as one is willing to accept the low risk involved traveling without a passport is a legitimate choice. OP, millions of people travel on closed loop cruises every year with a birth certificate/government issued ID or other form of documentation without any issue whatsoever. As stated should something happen you won't be able to fly home without obtaining assistance from an Embassy or Consulate but only you can determine what the risk of that is and whether or not it's worth paying for a passport. (And I would recommend that you check with your cruise line since some cruise lines do impose stricter requirements than the government does, mostly premium or luxury lines.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted June 27, 2016 #11 Share Posted June 27, 2016 To all who posted comments about what you would do or all types of doomsday scenarios, You di not answer the OP's question. They did not ask for an opinion about what you would do, only wanted to know what is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted June 27, 2016 #12 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Could get a passport card. Friends have this as the only international travel they do is the three day cruise out of Los Angeles. But yes, you could just use your birth certificate and Gov't ID. The passport card is $15 cheaper than a passport - but does not allow you to travel anywhere other than Canada and Mexico - and those two only by land - kind of silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 27, 2016 #13 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) The passport card is $15 cheaper than a passport - but does not allow you to travel anywhere other than Canada and Mexico - and those two only by land - kind of silly. The passport card may also be used for sea ports of entry when returning from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda or the Caribbean and is a stand alone document that verifies citizenship and identification. Cost for a first time applicant is $55 which includes the processing fee and the renewal by mail is $30. One advantage to the card- should you need to enlist the help of the Embassy/Consulate they will already have your information on file making it easier for them to help you. Edited June 27, 2016 by sparks1093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted June 27, 2016 #14 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm going on a 4 day cruise to Mexico in November. Do I really HAVE to have a passport? I won't be getting off the ship at all due to mobility problems, but the rest of my family will. We all have birth certificates and drivers licenses.Anyone else travel with out a pass port? Thanks for your help. Where you absolutely need a passport is if you have a medical or other emergency requiring you to fly home. It won't happen without a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted June 27, 2016 #15 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Where you absolutely need a passport is if you have a medical or other emergency requiring you to fly home. It won't happen without a passport. Normally true. But on this itin the foreign port, Ensenada, is only a four hour automobile trip from the home port of Los Angeles. Edited June 27, 2016 by SadieN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonj Posted June 27, 2016 #16 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Normally true. But on this itin the foreign port, Ensenada, is only a four hour automobile trip from the home port of Los Angeles. Out of curiosity, if they had to drive back home from Ensenada into California can they go over the border without a passport? I could be wrong but thought that when crossing borders by car a passport card or passport book is required now To the OP, is a passport required? No. Up to you what you are comfortable with Personally i always travel with a passport. I have an aunt that is a retired travel agent and heard many stories about people traveling on cruises without passports and emergency situations, whether with the passengers on the ship or a situation at home. Enough that we don't travel without one Edited June 27, 2016 by jonj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteTraveler Posted June 27, 2016 #17 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Out of curiosity, if they had to drive back home from Ensenada into California can they go over the border without a passport? No, they cannot legally cross the border from Mexico into the US without a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 27, 2016 #18 Share Posted June 27, 2016 No, they cannot legally cross the border from Mexico into the US without a passport. I live 8 miles from the northern border and several times per year someone will arrive at the border without the requisite documentation (loss or theft is usually the case) and it may take them a little longer to cross they ultimately are allowed across since there are no provisions in US law that gives CBP the authority to deny admittance to a US citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted June 27, 2016 #19 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I live 8 miles from the northern border and several times per year someone will arrive at the border without the requisite documentation (loss or theft is usually the case) and it may take them a little longer to cross they ultimately are allowed across since there are no provisions in US law that gives CBP the authority to deny admittance to a US citizen. True -- but there are also no provisions in US law that requires CBP (or even PERMITS CBP) the authority to GRANT admittance to someone who is "... without the requisite documentation...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 27, 2016 #20 Share Posted June 27, 2016 True -- but there are also no provisions in US law that requires CBP (or even PERMITS CBP) the authority to GRANT admittance to someone who is "... without the requisite documentation...". CBP officers enjoy wide discretion in the matter as a matter of policy. I've spoken to several over the years and if they can ascertain someone's US citizenship they will admit them. I highly doubt that they would do that if they didn't have the authority from somewhere. Of course if I had to leave the ship in Ensenada for some reason my first stop would be with the port agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarCruiser Posted June 27, 2016 #21 Share Posted June 27, 2016 No. They aren't required. They are an extra expense with no benefit unless you are going to get off the ship and get lost, pass out on a beach and miss the bus, or have a heart attack on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted June 27, 2016 #22 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I pay for trip insurance because of the unknowns. For the same reason, I carry my passport. "It'll never happen to me" is fine until it does. I'd rather not be stuck getting medical treatment in third-world country because I couldn't fly home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted June 27, 2016 #23 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Our friend was on a Mexican Rivera cruise and fell (does not drink) while in Mexico ... fractured/crushed hip, arm, & knee ... and had to be airlifted back to the US. Fortunately, she & her husband had passports and insurance. You never know what might happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted June 27, 2016 #24 Share Posted June 27, 2016 No unless you have to fly home early for some reason in which case you will have to deal with US officials and get some sort of temporary documentation. Most of us who travel a lot have passports. In fact, my grandkids got them when they were 6 months old. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantanaLobo Posted June 28, 2016 #25 Share Posted June 28, 2016 To all who posted comments about what you would do or all types of doomsday scenarios, You di not answer the OP's question. They did not ask for an opinion about what you would do, only wanted to know what is required.Once Post #2 was made, this thread could have been locked as clarea answered quite succinctly. But this is CC, and how much fun would that be? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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