navybankerteacher Posted November 16, 2016 #51 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Yes - but the beholder has to be given something to work with. When everything is ugly, the least ugly looks better than the rest -- but I defy anyone with a working eye to seriously describe any 3,000+ passenger ship as anything better than "utilitarian". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginialucy Posted November 16, 2016 #52 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Everyone is talking about the back of some of the Princess Grand class ships, which I agree is hideous, but I've always kind of thought that the front of those ships looks like Dr. Finkelstein (his mouth at least) from The Nightmare Before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted November 16, 2016 #53 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Everyone is talking about the back of some of the Princess Grand class ships, which I agree is hideous, but I've always kind of thought that the front of those ships looks like Dr. Finkelstein (his mouth at least) from The Nightmare Before Christmas. The bow is definitely part of what makes those ships ugly. It's not just the aft lounge. My wife calls those ships "bucktooth wonder." Dr. Finkelstein....that's perfect! I was trying to figure out who it resembled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleteace Posted November 16, 2016 #54 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Definitely epic, it looks like it's wearing sunglasses!!! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequim88 Posted November 16, 2016 #55 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I'm intrigued by MSC's upcoming ship, Seaside, but I find it u-g-l-y. WOW! And I thought Epic was bad. Thought that way before we saw Epic in Barcelona where it was confirmed. First impression was the forward section on top looks like a stack of containers on a cargo ship. Without that it might actually be a normal looking ship except for the black stack cover. But MSC really blew it with the sharp demarcation from the "hull" bottom to the cabin stack on top - that bottom really does look barge like. The least ugly (actually quite graceful) ships we've been on are RCCL Radiance class. Nice lines inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted November 16, 2016 #56 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Funny to read the negative opinions of Carnival Pride. We live near Baltimore so we did a 1-week Bahamas cruise as a Carnival taster. It was a cloudy day when we boarded and I couldn't believe how dark the lobby was. Unfortunately the whole experience put us off Carnival as a line in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted November 16, 2016 #57 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) For interior ugly I pick the Carnival Legend. There must be around a million stencils of the same Greek urn on every square inch of the interior. Second place is the Epic with ugly partial black exterior section and overall dark interior. Edited November 16, 2016 by cruzincurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted November 16, 2016 #58 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I think all of the huge new ships have pretty darn ugly profiles -- they are just too big and too bulky to look graceful. Swan Hellenic's Minerva is a nice looking & trim little ship: https://d19lgisewk9l6l.cloudfront.net/assetbank/MV_Minerva_Swan_Hellenic_40772.jpg Haven't really been on any ships with totally ugly interiors, though I still recall thinking that the main show lounge on HAL's Zuiderdam was very unattractive (pink and orange). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelmac Posted November 16, 2016 #59 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It looks like it has outside dining in the back. If it does that's a step in the right direction. I know it has a bank of glass elevators over looking the aft pool, with an aft view of the ocean. There is going to be a Crepetie and a lounge out back just forward of the pool. This ship will be our first MSC experience (we did score an inside Yacht Club cabin) Kind of cool.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachdude Posted November 16, 2016 #60 Share Posted November 16, 2016 At least they removed Skywalkers from the Grand - this removed the grocery cart handle. While I agree the Skywalkers was ugly, we sure enjoyed it for its view. Burt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LisaLisa87 Posted November 16, 2016 #61 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Yes - but the beholder has to be given something to work with. When everything is ugly, the least ugly looks better than the rest -- but I defy anyone with a working eye to seriously describe any 3,000+ passenger ship as anything better than "utilitarian". I think some of the large ships are more attractive than others. I'm partial to Disney ships because of their classic look. This is the Dream, which holds 4000 passengers at max capacity. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think she's beautiful! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxyB Posted November 16, 2016 #62 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Another vote for Epic being the ugliest... plus I hated the bathroom setup! No privacy and hated the small sink in the room. I also think Fantasy-class Carnival ships are really hideous both inside and out. The neon reminds me of the 80's and the exterior looks very ugly and dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted November 17, 2016 #63 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I think some of the large ships are more attractive than others. I'm partial to Disney ships because of their classic look. This is the Dream, which holds 4000 passengers at max capacity. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think she's beautiful! Sent from my iPhone using Forums It looks top heavy. The DCL Classic ships are beautiful, but the new ships, disappointing at best. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwazi07 Posted November 17, 2016 Author #64 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) It looks top heavy. The DCL Classic ships are beautiful, but the new ships, disappointing at best. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I agree. The Classic DCL ships are so nice...Dream and Fantasy look a little disproportionate with five decks of balconies. But those two are still better looking than any other mainstream ship, in my opinion. I used my phone to type this, excuse any typos please! Edited November 17, 2016 by kwazi07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted November 17, 2016 #65 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I think some of the large ships are more attractive than others. I'm partial to Disney ships because of their classic look. This is the Dream, which holds 4000 passengers at max capacity. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think she's beautiful! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Agreed that the dark hull - similar to that on Cunard and HAL ships - contributes a classic look - but the many layers of balconies impose an apartment building accent which defies the use of "beautiful" in a description. Take a look at smaller HAL ships - R and S Class, and Prinsendam for a true classic look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTromboneFrack Posted November 17, 2016 #66 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I've been on one. The inside matches the outside. Refined, it's not. I've been on 2 cruises- both Carnival. The old ships remind me of cheesy Las Vegas or Reno in the old days. I'm really looking forward to my first RCCL cruise on Allure this January. Yes, but those old Carnival ships are just plain fun!!! The colors are great if you're in the right mood. It just says "let loose and relax." And while the welded on balconies on the side of the ship might not look good on the outside, they are WONDERFUL suites on the inside. Those balconies are huge. We got an up-sell call a couple of years ago and loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted November 17, 2016 #67 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Yes, but those old Carnival ships are just plain fun!!! Depends on what your idea of fun is. Getting headaches from being surrounded by the gaudy, neon interiors of these ships is not my idea of fun. ;) The colors are great if you're in the right mood. To be "in the right mood" I would have to be high on something - very, very high! On something very, very strong! :D Edited November 17, 2016 by sloopsailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted November 17, 2016 #68 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Depends on what your idea of fun is. Getting headaches from being surrounded by the gaudy, neon interiors of these ships is not my idea of fun. ;) To be "in the right mood" I would have to be high on something - very, very high! On something very, very strong! :D Agree. Nothing tranquil to say "relax" to me there. Relaxing is soft, neutral tones and real wood, not neon and chrome. That says 80's disco, and throbbing headache from loud music, low end booze, and far too much cheap cologne. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTromboneFrack Posted November 17, 2016 #69 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Agree. Nothing tranquil to say "relax" to me there. Relaxing is soft, neutral tones and real wood, not neon and chrome. That says 80's disco, and throbbing headache from loud music, low end booze, and far too much cheap cologne. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Glad we're all different!!! For me, the colors are exhilarating. Never had a headache from the music and the drinks I've ordered have been good. (Don't use cologne). On the other hand, the older ship Carnival prices have let us upgrade our balconies, so we spend quite a bit of time out there. Maybe that's how we survive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted November 17, 2016 #70 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Agreed that the dark hull - similar to that on Cunard and HAL ships - contributes a classic look - Agreed. I used to love the look of Celebrity Millennium Class ships when they had the dark hulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdn_tbird Posted November 17, 2016 #71 Share Posted November 17, 2016 This is one ugly ship. It looks like they put an apartment house on a barge! And not a very architecturally creative apartment building at that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted November 17, 2016 #72 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Glad we're all different!!! For me, the colors are exhilarating. Never had a headache from the music and the drinks I've ordered have been good. (Don't use cologne). On the other hand, the older ship Carnival prices have let us upgrade our balconies, so we spend quite a bit of time out there. Maybe that's how we survive it. Somehow I don't think "relax" and "exhilarating" are synonymous. You've used both to describe the decor. I don't think I'm the one who is confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted November 17, 2016 #73 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Somehow I don't think "relax" and "exhilarating" are synonymous. You've used both to describe the decor. I don't think I'm the one who is confused. Agreed - "exhilaration" gleaned from outside colors and sounds is incompatible with relaxation. To the extent exhilaration can be internally developed (think contemplation, for example) it is a wholly different thing. Contemplation is difficult when surrounded by flashing lights, garish colors and throbbing sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAOk1945 Posted November 17, 2016 #74 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Agreed - "exhilaration" gleaned from outside colors and sounds is incompatible with relaxation. To the extent exhilaration can be internally developed (think contemplation, for example) it is a wholly different thing. Contemplation is difficult when surrounded by flashing lights, garish colors and throbbing sounds. I agree! The Carnival Ecstasy is a perfect example. We had two cruises on this ship and enjoyed both, but the décor and noise. . . :eek: That being said, the best experience we ever had on a Carnival ship was celebrating our anniversary in the legendary Owner's Suite. Different strokes for different folks. My wife loves small ships like HAL's Maasdam. She says the overall appeal is the classic, traditional appearance, as well as the atmosphere being conducive to relaxation. I, on the other hand, prefer the larger RC ships with the Royal Promenade. She says they're ugly. We haven't been on any of the "big sisters" yet, but I'm working on it.;) It's great to have so many choices! Cruising is a fantastic way to travel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Kim Posted November 18, 2016 #75 Share Posted November 18, 2016 This might take the win, Costa NeoRomantica... OMG! Epic is ugly, but I had a fantastic time onboard her back in 2011. The black/blue on top of the ship in the front makes it look even stranger. Without the dark paint. The aft is desiged with a stone axe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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