Silversea Water Cooler: Part 3, Welcome!

[MissSophia]

Still a bit sketchy here JP......there are casualties but nothing further on that at the moment.....London very much on edge right now.....

[MissSophia]

A white van mowing into Muslims leaving a mosque?

 

Bizarrely, was watching the news in US CNN which was interrupted and on instead of Bourdain .... had to resort to BBQ Pitmasters Collection for my nightly dose of smoking porn! It is like going to Open University for smoking pork. :D

 

CNN are telling the Americans that we are all getting up in a couple of hours ie at 4am. Bless.

 

Guessed you'd be up contemplating Jeffers....you old Barn Owl 😉

[UKCruiseJeff]

Yes,

 

Thoroughly enjoyed TTS musings today. It is great when people share their stories.

[Lois R]

I am watching the news too:(.....folks were in a Mosque and a car drove into people on the street:mad:

[Lois R]

Good morning.....sending all my best thoughts and good wishes to everyone affected by the attack last night.

 

Seems the evil in the world will never stop:(

[spinnaker2]

Regrettably it seems hate begets hate.

And terror begets more terror.

 

Sending thoughts and prayers for those injured and maimed or who have paid the ultimate price.

 

 

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[MissSophia]

A terrible night again for London with our emergency services stretched to the limit.......and so much anger on the streets....l fear we haven't seen the end as l feel this was an act of retribution...very very sad.

 

Yet another hot day here....trying to keep cool and whilst l do have ceiling fans in some rooms poor four paws is terrified of them for some reason.

 

I'm sat in the shade watching mummy blackbird busily feeding her young while my jacket potato bakes away!

 

Happy Day

S ☺️

[mysty]

Greetings Coolers! And it seems the madness continues. I understand that Ms. May is not extremely popular right now. I did, however, find her comment on the Finsbury Park tragedy to be powerful. According to the BBC website she said "It is a reminder that terrorism, extremism and hatred take many forms; and our determination to tackle them must be the same whoever is responsible." I share that view. To me, the Finsbury Park attack is no less shocking or tragic because it was carried out by a "white man". I did find it interesting that that in the same news report police apparently said that the arrested man would be the "subject of a mental health assessment in due course". Does that not kind of imply that if a white person attempts to mass murder people then he/she must have mental health issues but the same is not considered to be the case if the killer/killers are not white or if they kill under some banner like religion? Are not all people driven to kill affected by mental health issues whether they attempt to justify their actions with religious fervor or some other brand of hatred?

 

Today I will be on a quest to find love and laughter wherever I can. Have a good day all!

[Camillus112]

Rational and powerful thoughts, Mysty. Although I see a difference between mental issues and lack of humanity, both are inexcusable. The first for not being dealt with by family and community, and the second for the voluntary and express suppression of noble human actions. If there is evil within all of us, most of us keep it in chains, and let goodness flow. Although goodness is learned (family values, historical mores...), I believe its deeds are voluntary.

[mysty]

Thanks for adding your thoughts Cam! I appreciate your input! If the chains are slipped and evil is released is that not an indication that some form of thought process has gone off the rails? Goodness is indeed voluntary. But is evil not also voluntary? Inhumanity takes many forms....not all of it involves taking another human life. And of course, the rational members of our world community would not sanction inhumanity in any form. Killing does stretch the bounds of inhumanity for me.

[Camillus112]

Very much agree, Mysty.

[mysty]

Thanks Cam! Let's go find and celebrate the goodness! :)

[spinnaker2]

 

Chocolate bombe.

A perfect substance in an imperfect world.

 

Yesterday's Father's Day dessert.

 

Pure goodness.

[mysty]

Thanks for brightening the day Spins! I toast you with virtual bubbles in celebration of the goodness!

[UKCruiseJeff]

Good Afternoon all,

 

Mysty, the reason why mental assessments in this situation are completed is simply to try and head off a future defence based on diminished responsibility. It is done more to ensure that defence isn't easily retrofitted to confound justice. Doesn't always work, but that is what juries are for.

 

Spins, did you do that? I'm in awe, and truly delish.

 

Quiche today,

 

 

 

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[spinnaker2]

Yes Jeff.

You can see our family loves chocolate and razzleberries.

You recall the cake I made for sons birthday which I posted...

I try to please.

For example...

Son-in-law likes bacon and caramel and chocolate.

So I made him a candied bacon dark chocolate cake with Dulce de leche filling. It was decadent.

I thought I posted pictures of that one awhile ago.

[mysty]

Spins...you are a marvel! Your creations sound mouth-watering! And I know that Myster would drool over the candied bacon dark chocolate cake with Dulce de leche filling. All his favourite flavours in one magical place!

 

J....I do understand the reasoning behind the competency assessment. The same is done here on a regular basis. What I was trying to differentiate to my own mind (and obviously out loud here) was the perception that mental health issues can somehow explain evil in some cases and yet the idea does not seem to come into play when the seeming justification is pure hatred under another guise.

[UKCruiseJeff]

Sadly, we are probably only a year or two away from when these outbreaks of terrorism become the background of normal daily life and are reported less energetically.

[Camillus112]

That chocolate bombe looks fantastic, Spins! I also raise my bubbly to the enjoyment of the senses! Jeff, yes, sadly the outbreaks may cease to shock, but we still can hope that Malthusian theories will not prevail.

[spinnaker2]

And yet another foiled attack in Paris.

[Tothesunset]

Sadly, we are probably only a year or two away from when these outbreaks of terrorism become the background of normal daily life and are reported less energetically.

That's a very interesting point.

 

You might remember I am from Belfast and through the early days of ''The Troubles'' the Mainland media reported extensively from the Province. As time went by the news media found other interests and if you just looked at, say, the BBC you would be forgiven for thinking that riots, bombings, shootings etc waned through the early seventies when, in fact, little changed really - probably got worse. Then when the Mainland was targeted there was, understandably, a renewed depth of coverage which, similarly, faded while the situation in NI continued and got very much worse in the early 80s.

 

Which is not to say that every petrol bomb or IED should have been reported, more that, in light of your comment, it seems society tacitly reaches a level of tolerance of such things to the point where they lose their immediacy.

 

In about 1979/80 time I went to stay with my Grandfather for the summer as usual. He lived on a street off the Shankill Road and had become quite blase about the violence. When I went to my room I noticed that the window was broken. ''Hey, Pop, theres a chunk missing from the window.'' ''Aye, that would be the bullet that come through the other week.'' His main concern was the cost of getting the window reglazed!

 

2 years later he had a heart attack and was admitted to the Royal Victoria. My father went to visit and, as he had done all his life, walked back up the Shankill to Tennant Street when he was rugby tackled by a Para and dragged into a doorway. He'd managed to get in the middle of a gunfight between the Paras and the IRA. What is telling is that, in spite of the loud reports thereabouts, he stiil walked home. It's far to easy to get inured to such things.

 

I suppose, in some ways, we all close our minds to risk when that risk is ever-present. The best analogy I can think of is that, even at the height of the troubles, the biggest cause of violent loss of life by a factor of 10 or more was traffic accidents rather than terror-related.

 

But trying to keep perspective in the face of terrorism is very hard.

[Tothesunset]

 

Chocolate bombe.

A perfect substance in an imperfect world.

 

Yesterday's Father's Day dessert.

 

Pure goodness.

Now, that's what I call a pudding!

 

Cultural point: I say 'Raasppberries' OH (cultured Englishwoman that she is) says 'Rawsbreez'.

 

Can we both be right?

[spinnaker2]

D'accord. Mais oui.

 

Segura. Si.

 

Of course you are both right.

[Tothesunset]

D'accord. Mais oui.

 

Segura. Si.

 

Of course you are both right.

Merci. Danke. Dhanyabad!

[UKCruiseJeff]

......TTS, the last word has two meanings ..... only one I think you intended ...:D