Roce48 Posted February 28, 2017 #1 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I thought that dock workers were Longshoremen. When I dropped off my luggage last week at Port Everglades they boldly solicited a tip for the Porters asking "Would you like to leave a tip for the Porter". Crass! And after tipping, they lost my luggage until I found it at Guest Services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a son of a ... Posted February 28, 2017 #2 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The porters are not longshoremen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerif Posted February 28, 2017 #3 Share Posted February 28, 2017 When I dropped off my And after tipping, they lost my luggage until I found it at Guest Services. If it made it to guest services, then the port workers did NOT lose it. They do not accompany it onto the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrac Posted February 28, 2017 #4 Share Posted February 28, 2017 If it made it to guest services, then the port workers did NOT lose it. They do not accompany it onto the ship. Could have been something in bag triggered a security hold[emoji12][emoji12] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2017 #5 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The porters are not longshoremen I thought that dock workers were Longshoremen. When I dropped off my luggage last week at Port Everglades they boldly solicited a tip for the Porters asking "Would you like to leave a tip for the Porter". Crass! And after tipping, they lost my luggage until I found it at Guest Services. I think this depends on which port you are at. Curbside porters may not be longshoremen, but I think it would be rare that they aren't, and the guys that take the luggage carts from the curbside area, through security and onto the ship are definitely longshoremen. The reason I say it would be rare if they were not longshoremen is that the cruise terminals are public piers, and at virtually every public pier, the workers all belong to the Longshoremen's Union. Their contracts usually require everyone on the dock, regardless of job, to be a union member. They may be employed by a different company than the guys driving the forklifts, but they are most likely union brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted February 28, 2017 #6 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The porters who work the cruise ships are members of the ILA. They also work the loading and unloading of ships other than cruise ships. I can not speak for other ports but in Baltimore any porter found to be soliciting tips would be immediately dismissed and sent home. The ILA covers all ports from Maine to Texas that are signature to the master and local contracts this either being ship side or land side with all csrgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolimits Posted February 28, 2017 #7 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I m surprised they'd have to solicit tips everyone knows your supposed to tip them .I guess they have to remind people now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a son of a ... Posted February 28, 2017 #8 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenderlou Posted February 28, 2017 #9 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The porters who work the cruise ships are members of the ILA. They also work the loading and unloading of ships other than cruise ships. I can not speak for other ports but in Baltimore any porter found to be soliciting tips would be immediately dismissed and sent home. The ILA covers all ports from Maine to Texas that are signature to the master and local contracts this either being ship side or land side with all csrgo Absolutely correct. I am a mortgage loan officer in Ft Lauderdale and have done several loans for individuals who are members of ILA Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2017 #10 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I m surprised they'd have to solicit tips everyone knows your supposed to tip them .I guess they have to remind people now and then. But if you knew they make from $70k to well into six figures, depending on seniority and hours worked, would you still feel compelled to tip them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 28, 2017 #11 Share Posted February 28, 2017 But if you knew they make from $70k to well into six figures, depending on seniority and hours worked, would you still feel compelled to tip them? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted February 28, 2017 #12 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Threads like this is why I don't use cruise critic luggage tags:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2017 #13 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The West Coast union, the ILWU, makes higher than the ILA on the Gulf and East Coast, but it is still significant cash. The ILWU, a couple years ago, was found that 50% of the workers earned over $100k, and supervisors made over $200k, some as high as $350k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2017 #14 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I can remember a few years back, when we used ILA line handlers (tanker terminals, being private, don't use ILA labor), that the ship always paid for a 6 man line gang, and you were lucky to get 3 to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 28, 2017 #15 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The West Coast union, the ILWU, makes higher than the ILA on the Gulf and East Coast, but it is still significant cash. The ILWU, a couple years ago, was found that 50% of the workers earned over $100k, and supervisors made over $200k, some as high as $350k. I had no idea. I wonder if this is a tough union to get into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2017 #16 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I had no idea. I wonder if this is a tough union to get into? It helps if you know or are related to a member. Rookies are assigned all the scut jobs, like bulkers or working on days when it is predicted to rain cats and dogs. The ILA and the ILWU are among the few unions that have real clout these days, witness the shutdown on the West Coast a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 28, 2017 #17 Share Posted February 28, 2017 It helps if you know or are related to a member. Rookies are assigned all the scut jobs, like bulkers or working on days when it is predicted to rain cats and dogs. The ILA and the ILWU are among the few unions that have real clout these days, witness the shutdown on the West Coast a couple of years ago. That would also explain the salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roce48 Posted February 28, 2017 Author #18 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The porters are not longshoremen I was not suggesting that the Porters were Longshoremen. I was talking about the dock workers soliciting tips for the porters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2017 #19 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I was not suggesting that the Porters were Longshoremen. I was talking about the dock workers soliciting tips for the porters. But they are longshoremen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted February 28, 2017 #20 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The folks who take your bags OUTSIDE of the terminal are not ship employees....neither are the folks at the "check in" desk, even tho they may have on a ship's logo uniform! Just so you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted February 28, 2017 #21 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The folks who take your bags OUTSIDE of the terminal are not ship employees....neither are the folks at the "check in" desk, even tho they may have on a ship's logo uniform! Just so you know! Along with the so called photographers, and those working in the shops and spa on the ship are not RCI employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euphscott Posted February 28, 2017 #22 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The folks who take your bags OUTSIDE of the terminal are not ship employees....neither are the folks at the "check in" desk, even tho they may have on a ship's logo uniform! Just so you know! The exception being Disney - those are Disney cast members in Port Canaveral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted February 28, 2017 #23 Share Posted February 28, 2017 But if you knew they make from $70k to well into six figures, depending on seniority and hours worked, would you still feel compelled to tip them? What about the porters at the Pan Am Pier in San Juan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 1, 2017 #24 Share Posted March 1, 2017 What about the porters at the Pan Am Pier in San Juan? Somehow, I don't see the mainland unions reaching there and if they did, the compensation would likely be lower than mainland US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted March 1, 2017 #25 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The ILA is represented in Puerto Rico Sent from my SM-G930V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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