originalgeek Posted September 19, 2017 #26 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Also, OP, bear in mind that the one outlet* in the cabin is usually far away from the bed. (I obviously haven't been in every cabin but it's been that way in the ones I've been in). So if you plan on night-time charging and using your phone or tablet or laptop or whatever while in bed, bring an extension cord. We had to get one for my wife's cpap. You can get an extension cord with three outlets at the end so you can run a few things at the same time. *the one American style outlet. If you bring a euro>US adapter you can use the Euro outlet too. But they are both still over by the vanity which is pretty far from the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted September 20, 2017 #27 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Found one here that is NOT surge protected.....Karen https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0727WZM6R/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or this http://www.homedepot.com/p/6-Outlet-Power-Strip-with-3-ft-Cord-YLPT-90A/203353675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiftieEtcetera Posted September 24, 2017 #28 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I had the first surge protector listed on this thread (as I took a recommendation from here and did NOT realize it was a surge protector) and they took it away. They also opened my allergy-free liquid detergent to see if it was smuggled alcohol. It wasn't, so they put it back, but did not close it all the way and my books and stuff got ruined. Don't be me. :) Don't bring a surge protector. It's unsafe and a pain when your luggage is confiscated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofarfromthesea Posted September 24, 2017 #29 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Thank y'all for the information! Not interested in getting a surge protector, just a power strip to give me a few more outlets and allow me to charge with a USB cord. I use a 4 port USB splitter that has a European 2 prong plug. That takes care of our recharging devices needs and leaves the US style outlets for other purposes. This isn't the specific one, but something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVKR92Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcarolina Posted January 18, 2018 #30 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Should power strips be packed in a carry on or checked baggage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbobswife Posted January 18, 2018 #31 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Should power strips be packed in a carry on or checked baggage? Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 19, 2018 #32 Share Posted January 19, 2018 My wayward son? Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenlover8 Posted January 23, 2018 #33 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Is the one outlet in the room a three prong? Making sure my strip will fit, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted January 23, 2018 #34 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yes it is. It’s not a true three prong plug as in a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbobswife Posted January 23, 2018 #35 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yes it is. It’s not a true three prong plug as in a house. What do you mean? It's the same except there's only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty dingo Posted January 23, 2018 #36 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Think about what you will plug into the strip or adapter... good rule of thumb... nothing that has a three prong plug. Reason? A three prong plug needs a proper ground to be safe and the ship does not provide it. Electronics usually have two prong plugs, like a USB charger. My work laptop has a three prong plug... I would not bring that. But my tablet and phone has a USB charger... that is OK. You only want stuff that does not draw much current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted January 23, 2018 #37 Share Posted January 23, 2018 What do you mean? It's the same except there's only one. The third prong or ground isn’t used on the ship. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbobswife Posted January 23, 2018 #38 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The third prong or ground isn’t used on the ship.Sent from my iPad using Forums Well the ship has different wiring that's why you can't use a surge protector. But otherwise the outlet itself is just like one at home. It's not odd shaped or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviela Posted January 23, 2018 #39 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The purpose of the GROUND prong is for your safety. It is connected to the hull of the ship. Should the insulation inside the device you have brought aboard fail there is a chance that the exposed metal parts of device will become energized. You could receive a lethal shock if you touch the device. The ground connection will carry the current after an insulation failure and trip the circuit breaker in short order. How come some devices have a two terminal power cord? Those devices are "double insulated" and have an intrinsic protection system so the ground is not required. You are perfectly safe using grounded or ungrounded devices on the ship. I prepare theatrical sound and lighting equipment for use aboard ships. I remove MOV's (metal oxide varistors) and capacitors connected across the power terminals and those connected to ground. I then test the device with 1500 volts between the power terminals and ground to assure the insulation system is working properly, and that there are no devices that might have been missed. Since ships' wiring has both conductors above ground, and no grounded neutral like North American wiring the power switches are changed to break both incoming power conductors, so when the device is switched off there will be no "live" voltage inside the equipment beyond the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted January 23, 2018 #40 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Think about what you will plug into the strip or adapter... good rule of thumb... nothing that has a three prong plug. Reason? A three prong plug needs a proper ground to be safe and the ship does not provide it. Electronics usually have two prong plugs, like a USB charger. My work laptop has a three prong plug... I would not bring that. But my tablet and phone has a USB charger... that is OK. You only want stuff that does not draw much current. The third prong or ground isn’t used on the ship. Sent from my iPad using Forums Neither of these statements are correct, and movieola is spot on with his/her description. The ground is used on ships, for the same reason it is used on land, to provide a safe path for current should the insulation on the wiring or device fail, to protect you from electric shock. So, yes, a 3-prong plug is recommended. Even many of the European outlets will have a ground connection, it is the two metal prongs at the outer edge of the round recess of the outlet. What is different is that on land, one of the two wires that carries electricity in normal operation is also connected to ground, so your system doesn't care whether the current is carried in the neutral wire or the ground wire, it is all the same to the wiring, and still protects you, even if the neutral wire insulation goes bad. On a ship, as noted, the ground is the hull of the ship, and you don't want current flowing in the hull, as it causes corrosion. So, what would be the "neutral" or white wire in land wiring, is not connected to the ground. So, if the insulation in the neutral wire is bad, and current flows to the ground, it can be detected and the insulation repaired or the device replaced. I've never said the ship does not have a ground, I've always said the ship has a "floating" ground (and floating does not refer to what the ship does in water). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalgeek Posted January 23, 2018 #41 Share Posted January 23, 2018 My wayward son? Sent from my iPad using Forums This post is not getting enough love! :) (y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 23, 2018 #42 Share Posted January 23, 2018 This post is not getting enough love! :) (y) Thanks, I thought it was one of my better ones.... Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascalburns Posted January 24, 2018 #43 Share Posted January 24, 2018 we learn something new every day.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kseige Posted January 24, 2018 #44 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Neither of these statements are correct, and movieola is spot on with his/her description. The ground is used on ships, for the same reason it is used on land, to provide a safe path for current should the insulation on the wiring or device fail, to protect you from electric shock. So, yes, a 3-prong plug is recommended. Even many of the European outlets will have a ground connection, it is the two metal prongs at the outer edge of the round recess of the outlet. What is different is that on land, one of the two wires that carries electricity in normal operation is also connected to ground, so your system doesn't care whether the current is carried in the neutral wire or the ground wire, it is all the same to the wiring, and still protects you, even if the neutral wire insulation goes bad. On a ship, as noted, the ground is the hull of the ship, and you don't want current flowing in the hull, as it causes corrosion. So, what would be the "neutral" or white wire in land wiring, is not connected to the ground. So, if the insulation in the neutral wire is bad, and current flows to the ground, it can be detected and the insulation repaired or the device replaced. I've never said the ship does not have a ground, I've always said the ship has a "floating" ground (and floating does not refer to what the ship does in water). Wow! I’m extremely impressed with your knowledge. Thank you for sharing it with us. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted January 24, 2018 #45 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Wow! I’m extremely impressed with your knowledge. Thank you for sharing it with us. Sent from my iPad using Forums If there is anyone on CC that is more knowledgeable than Chief (chengkp75) on large ship infrastructure, I don't know who they are. His comments are pretty much gold. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkIVette Posted January 24, 2018 #46 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Carry on. My wayward son? Sent from my iPad using Forums Now that's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 24, 2018 #47 Share Posted January 24, 2018 If there is anyone on CC that is more knowledgeable than Chief (chengkp75) on large ship infrastructure, I don't know who they are. His comments are pretty much gold. :) Agree Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kseige Posted March 11, 2018 #48 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I found this one to be perfect..... at least I hope. Lol https://www.amazon.com/NTONPOWER-Portable-Protector-Outlets-Charging/dp/B01LZERKKX/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520740622&sr=8-1&keywords=ntonpower Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted March 11, 2018 #49 Share Posted March 11, 2018 The only problem is cruise ships don’t allow surge porptectore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted March 11, 2018 #50 Share Posted March 11, 2018 The only problem is cruise ships don’t allow surge porptectore. So, you didn't read any of the responses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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