Can you beat this chair hog story?

[Bobbylah]

I just think it's mostly funny stories. Kind of like watching dock runners! ;p

 

Ha - totally agree. I never have issues with chair hogger, I am happy pretty much anywhere. However I do enjoy looking at those chairs that people save with towels while I am sitting at the bar. If no-one shows up within the timeframe Carnival stipulates and I am of a mind, I just move the towels to an adjacent area (floor/table etc) so someone else can use the chairs. They get taken pretty quickly.

[BookDragon]

Let's flip it around. Someone who smokes should always give up their seat to a non-smoker when they are in any non-smoking area. That settles it!

 

The smoker tried to engage in smoking, in an area meant for said action. Only to have a nonsmoker refuse to sit up, then proceed to complain about “smoke” and smokers. That’s what makes no sense. Then the OP justifies that there were plenty of places for said smoker to go smoke. Really? Based on her posts and others defending these actions, I’m starting to better understand why smokers justify smoking in nonsmoking areas.

[bingomamma19]

Let's flip it around. Someone who smokes should always give up their seat to a non-smoker when they are in any non-smoking area. That settles it!

 

:):)

[Titan_Cruiser]

You are bordering on ridiculous with some of these statements unverified by scientific literature. How on earth is second hand smoke "much worse" than the stuff you inhale and where has it ever been proven to cause cancer? Love it when old wives tales get perpetuated as scientific knowledge. Let me guess, you are also a proponent of putting butter on burns and feed a cold, starve a fever. Gimme a break.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/health_effects/index.htm

[bingomamma19]

The smoker tried to engage in smoking, in an area meant for said action. Only to have a nonsmoker refuse to sit up, then proceed to complain about “smoke” and smokers. That’s what makes no sense. Then the OP justifies that there were plenty of places for said smoker to go smoke. Really? Based on her posts and others defending these actions, I’m starting to better understand why smokers justify smoking in nonsmoking areas.

 

Again, do you believe a smoker has free roam to go around and pick a prime seat (even with open seats that are available in that same smoking area), just because they are in a smoking area? A designated smoking area does not mean that all there MUST smoke or you are asked to leave. Its a place that smokers are allowed to go to and smoke..they aren't given special privileges to take over seating areas because they show up.

 

And what about smokers who aren't actually actively smoking at the time--do they get to pick seats and kick people out too? How about if I just bring a pack of cigarettes with me and set them out? Does that give me preference? Does the smoker have to leave the seat as soon as they are done actively smoking?

 

What if a couple are there together and one is smoking but the other is not, can a smoker ask that non smoker to get up so they can sit there to smoke? So many questions......

 

hmmm....I think I need a smoke after all this :):):)

Edited June 21, 2018 by bingomamma19

[sparks1093]

You were in the middle of the smoking section. Granted, it sounds like you had no idea you were in the smoking section. But, why didn’t you give the smoker the benefit of the doubt? Why are you justifying your error? Learn from it & move on.

 

Since there were plenty of seats around that the smoker could have chosen I don't see an error on the PP's part. Even if all of the seats were taken I've smoked many cigarettes while standing (much to my sorrow).

[BookDragon]

My chair hogging story is a bit different.

 

A few years ago on the breeze, a port day that I did not get off the ship. I went up to the floor above lido to get on of those love seat things to watch the movie that was on the big screen.

 

I was laying on the love seat and a lady comes up and asks if I could sit up so she can sit on the loveseat too. I said "no, I am relaxing, this is a love seat and I don't even know you". She said "well this is the side people can smoke on and I need to sit down so I can smoke". '

 

I was flabbergasted---I told her to go smoke somewhere else in a chair she can find (I am not a smoker and certainly didn't want to share a loveseat with a stranger AND a smoker at that).

 

She continued to argue with me for a bit, I straight up told her to move along because I was not sharing the loveseat. She finally walked away in a huff.

 

I am reposting your “different” chair hogging post because your subsequent posts/justifications are becoming more and more “different” from your original post. I stand by my belief in mutual respect: Nonsmokers should respect the smoking section. Smokers should respect the nonsmokers section.

[BookDragon]

Since there were plenty of seats around that the smoker could have chosen I don't see an error on the PP's part. Even if all of the seats were taken I've smoked many cigarettes while standing (much to my sorrow).

 

Based on how the PP has changed her story multiple times, I don’t believe her claim that there were available seats everywhere. I believe her first post and that she did not realize she was in the smoking section and rather than admit she was wrong, she has chosen to triple/quadruple down to justify her own chair hogging.

[bingomamma19]

I am reposting your “different” chair hogging post because your subsequent posts/justifications are becoming more and more “different” from your original post. I stand by my belief in mutual respect: Nonsmokers should respect the smoking section. Smokers should respect the nonsmokers section.

 

what is "different" ? A lady comes up to me --I am laying on the loveseat..she wants to sit there with me..I say "no"..she said she wants to smoke and this is a smoking section..i tell her to go smoke elsewhere in a chair she can find (as this whole half is smoking according to her).

 

I think you are the one trying to justify some point here. Neither one of us is going to change each others minds. Go ahead and give up your seat whenever you would like--and I will do as I did.

 

We will both have nice cruises :)

[bingomamma19]

Based on how the PP has changed her story multiple times, I don’t believe her claim that there were available seats everywhere. I believe her first post and that she did not realize she was in the smoking section and rather than admit she was wrong, she has chosen to triple/quadruple down to justify her own chair hogging.

 

My "story" has never changed. I explained this was a port day...have you ever stayed on the ship on a port day? Its empty, which is why I told her to go find a chair (as stated in my "original" post ) Sorry, I forgot to take a picture to prove this if it came up some day :)

 

I think you are a bit heavy on your trying to make this some awful situation. But to each his own. This isn't a murder investigation :):) LOL

[BookDragon]

what is "different" ? A lady comes up to me --I am laying on the loveseat..she wants to sit there with me..I say "no"..she said she wants to smoke and this is a smoking section..i tell her to go smoke elsewhere in a chair she can find (as this whole half is smoking according to her).

 

I think you are the one trying to justify some point here. Neither one of us is going to change each others minds. Go ahead and give up your seat whenever you would like--and I will do as I did.

 

We will both have nice cruises :)

 

You are the one who described your post as different and you are the one who has changed your justifications as the converation continued. And yes, I stand by my point of mutual respect for smoking/nonsmoking areas.

[jdjaguar]

I think some of you just look for things to complain about or be offended by. The victim mindset is everywhere in our culture and it is shining through in this thread.

agree.

[bingomamma19]

You are the one who described your post as different and you are the one who has changed your justifications as the converation continued. And yes, I stand by my point of mutual respect for smoking/nonsmoking areas.

 

 

When I said it was "different" I meant in a chair hogging way--like I am actually sitting and occupying my seat and someone wants to claim it. So a "different" type of chair hogging story...I have never changed any reason why I didn't share my seat--- I was there and occupying it and I wasn't sharing it with a stranger--a smoker or non smoker--its all right there in the post if you need to re read it.

 

Geez, now I need a drink and a smoke :)

Edited June 21, 2018 by bingomamma19

[MediumB]

what is "different" ? A lady comes up to me --I am laying on the loveseat..she wants to sit there with me..I say "no"..she said she wants to smoke and this is a smoking section..i tell her to go smoke elsewhere in a chair she can find (as this whole half is smoking according to her).

 

I think you are the one trying to justify some point here. Neither one of us is going to change each others minds. Go ahead and give up your seat whenever you would like--and I will do as I did.

 

We will both have nice cruises :)

 

"I TELL HER TO GO SMOKE ELSEWHERE IN A CHAIR SHE CAN FIND" That part of the sentence tells me you KNEW there was no other seating available. No smoker is going to intentionally sit next to the only person in the smoking area, and continue to pester them, if there are plenty of seats open in said smoking area.

[bingomamma19]

"I TELL HER TO GO SMOKE ELSEWHERE IN A CHAIR SHE CAN FIND" That part of the sentence tells me you KNEW there was no other seating available. No smoker is going to intentionally sit next to the only person in the smoking area, and continue to pester them, if there are plenty of seats open in said smoking area.

 

 

Ok, you're right...I put towels on all the chairs on that half of the ship--mine all mine :):) Since most passengers were off the ship.

 

Sorry I didn't phrase my statement to your liking.. believe me there were all empty chairs over there---It was the table and chairs though...not the loveseats. Thus I told her to go find a chair elsewhere.

 

Sorry to have even posted here---you guys are something else :) Good thing I have a cruise to Alaska in August---gives me time to practice smoking.

[declansdad]

Man some of you are funny.

[firemanbobswife]

I don't smoke but sometimes travel with people who do and occasionally sit with them while they are smoking. However, if a smoker came along and needed a seat, I would gladly give mine up. I appreciate that they are obeying the rules.

[crusinpsychRN]

You were in the middle of the smoking section. Granted, it sounds like you had no idea you were in the smoking section. But, why didn’t you give the smoker the benefit of the doubt? Why are you justifying your error? Learn from it & move on.

 

Non smokers can sit in the smoking section. Just don't complain about smoke.

[BookDragon]

I don't smoke but sometimes travel with people who do and occasionally sit with them while they are smoking. However, if a smoker came along and needed a seat, I would gladly give mine up. I appreciate that they are obeying the rules.

 

This^^^

[pacruise804]

Let's flip it around. Someone who smokes should always give up their seat to a non-smoker when they are in any non-smoking area. That settles it!

 

 

I think the logic is a little flawed here. A closer analogy to me would be that there are limited accessible cabins on a ship. An able bodied passenger can book that cabin, but if someone comes along who needs it and cannot use a standard cabin the cruise line can move the able bodied passenger. Smokers cannot (within the rules) smoke in non-smoking areas. It seems right that a non-smoker should be allowed to sit in the smoking area when there is ample seating. If there is limited space, it would be considerate (even if inconvenient) for a non-smoker to give up the space to those who don't have an alternative.

 

 

Since there were plenty of seats around that the smoker could have chosen I don't see an error on the PP's part. Even if all of the seats were taken I've smoked many cigarettes while standing (much to my sorrow).

 

I do find it odd that someone would choose the loveseat someone else was using with other seats around. If bingomamma19 was smoking, would that change the opinions of if she needed to sit up and share the space?

[TEXSUN46]

The smoking allowed area is just that, an area where it is allowed, it is not the exclusive domain of those that smoke and does not give them privilege over non smokers. I find it hard to believe that every seat in the smoking area was taken, I have never seen smoking area completely full in middle of day. As bingomama has stated, some of the lines of reasoning here would also allow for a smoker to take the spot of a non smoker in the casino. So should someone give up a table and chairs in lido area if not eating? Should someone not sit in loungers close to pool if they are not swimming? I see that there was no obligation to relinquish the seat regardless of whether she smokes or not and it was actually quite rude for the person to ask.

[countrygirlcruiser1234]

The smoking allowed area is just that, an area where it is allowed, it is not the exclusive domain of those that smoke and does not give them privilege over non smokers. I find it hard to believe that every seat in the smoking area was taken, I have never seen smoking area completely full in middle of day. As bingomama has stated, some of the lines of reasoning here would also allow for a smoker to take the spot of a non smoker in the casino. So should someone give up a table and chairs in lido area if not eating? Should someone not sit in loungers close to pool if they are not swimming? I see that there was no obligation to relinquish the seat regardless of whether she smokes or not and it was actually quite rude for the person to ask.

 

If you read her post she stated that the women asked if she could sit down with her, not that she needed to leave because she was in the smoking section.

 

Its not rude to ask for someone to share space.

[bingomamma19]

If you read her post she stated that the women asked if she could sit down with her, not that she needed to leave because she was in the smoking section.

 

Its not rude to ask for someone to share space.

 

 

So if you are on a clam shell sun lounger thing in serenity by yourself and someone asks to share it with you...are you ok with that?

[crusinpsychRN]

If you read her post she stated that the women asked if she could sit down with her, not that she needed to leave because she was in the smoking section.

 

Its not rude to ask for someone to share space.

 

A private lounger??!!

[pacruise804]

The smoking allowed area is just that, an area where it is allowed, it is not the exclusive domain of those that smoke and does not give them privilege over non smokers. I find it hard to believe that every seat in the smoking area was taken, I have never seen smoking area completely full in middle of day. As bingomama has stated, some of the lines of reasoning here would also allow for a smoker to take the spot of a non smoker in the casino. So should someone give up a table and chairs in lido area if not eating? Should someone not sit in loungers close to pool if they are not swimming? I see that there was no obligation to relinquish the seat regardless of whether she smokes or not and it was actually quite rude for the person to ask.

 

If it is a peak meal time and someone trying to eat is looking for somewhere to sit, it does make sense to give up my seat if I've finished eating.

 

If it's the middle of the morning or afternoon and there are lots of seats available, it shouldn't be an issue for non-eaters to use the area for cards or other games (although there are other areas on the ship for this).