pugsammy Posted December 4, 2018 #1 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I just want to rant! Don't get me wrong....I love the VIBE experience....I HATE having to race for it. I just find it very demeaning. I'd like to know why this can't be booked with your cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted December 4, 2018 #2 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Great question. Capacity is about the same for the thermal suite, and that can be booked in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted December 4, 2018 #3 Share Posted December 4, 2018 With so much demand I guess they just don't charge enough for it, when the supply/demand balances the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkacmom Posted December 4, 2018 #4 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Charge $200 pp like the spa, sell in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted December 4, 2018 #5 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Book a suite. No need to race. If passes could be booked in advance, suite guests would probably get a 10 day head start just like with dinner reservations. People (AFAIK) aren't willing to race for Spa access so VIBE access wouldn't be as easy to book online if both were done in the same way. The "running of the VIBEs" is fun to watch. Not as much fun a "pier runners" but still fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmbhardy Posted December 4, 2018 #6 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Haven guests shouldn’t be allowed to buy Vibe passes as they have their own private sun deck with bar service. The argument was always well Vibe is adults only and the Haven is not. That’s all changed now so the argument holds no water. We boarded with Platinum last Saturday on the Bliss and were too late to buy passes. There were only about 20 people in line so a I assume the other 40 passes went to Haven passengers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LrgPizza Posted December 4, 2018 #7 Share Posted December 4, 2018 So did you actually get Vibe passes or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted December 4, 2018 #8 Share Posted December 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, gmbhardy said: Haven guests shouldn’t be allowed to buy Vibe passes as they have their own private sun deck with bar service. The Haven sundeck and the Haven bar are on different decks. Sometimes, 2 decks apart. A better idea would be for Haven guests to have built-in access to VIBE (only a wall separates the areas) which would free up more VIBE passes for others. 15 minutes ago, gmbhardy said: The argument was always well Vibe is adults only and the Haven is not. That’s all changed now so the argument holds no water. The Haven sundecks which are 16 and older don't offer the same experience as VIBE which is 18 and older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted December 4, 2018 #9 Share Posted December 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, gmbhardy said: We boarded with Platinum last Saturday on the Bliss and were too late to buy passes. There were only about 20 people in line so a I assume the other 40 passes went to Haven passengers. Even if Haven guests didn't get any passes, there would still be some with priority boarding who may not get passes. Those without priority would still run for the remaining passes. Nothing would really change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted December 4, 2018 #10 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, gmbhardy said: Haven guests shouldn’t be allowed to buy Vibe passes as they have their own private sun deck with bar service. The argument was always well Vibe is adults only and the Haven is not. That’s all changed now so the argument holds no water. We boarded with Platinum last Saturday on the Bliss and were too late to buy passes. There were only about 20 people in line so a I assume the other 40 passes went to Haven passengers. Sorry you didn’t get a pass. I see no basis for your assertion that 40 passes went to Haven guests. Unsubstantiated speculation. Did ya ask why they were out of passes. Just as likely B2B passengers grabbed them. Any passenger on the ship can purchase any service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted December 5, 2018 #11 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I find it amazing NCL have not correctly priced this product, demand clearly proves it is underpriced, from history NCL grab every penny they can. It's a premium product but being offered too cheaply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda the Book Lover Posted December 5, 2018 #12 Share Posted December 5, 2018 My DD and I will sprint to get the passes and hope we get them. I have a year to practice my sprint and let's just say I am close to 70 😁 . I agree it would be easier if they were an option to purchase pre-cruise. We sure would do that but then someone would be upset if they all sold out before they got online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanBlueWaters Posted December 5, 2018 #13 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, pugsammy said: I just want to rant! Don't get me wrong....I love the VIBE experience....I HATE having to race for it. I just find it very demeaning. I'd like to know why this can't be booked with your cruise. Ahhh...the Vibe Pass procedures continues. I had Boarding 1 Group. I refuse(d) to "run". My choice, although my odds probably would have been pretty good at scoring a pass. I just have a problem how this is conducted in a freakishly crazy way. Therefore, I did not even attempt. Yes, it is demeaning. I went to the Atrium Bar instead 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted December 5, 2018 #14 Share Posted December 5, 2018 They just need to make the place bigger. They sell only a small % of the number of spa passes that they sell, maybe because people who end up with vibe passes stay there all day. I prefer the spa. I don't find the vibe very attractive because there is no pool there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shidah Posted December 5, 2018 #15 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, gmbhardy said: Haven guests shouldn’t be allowed to buy Vibe passes as they have their own private sun deck with bar service. The argument was always well Vibe is adults only and the Haven is not. That’s all changed now so the argument holds no water. We boarded with Platinum last Saturday on the Bliss and were too late to buy passes. There were only about 20 people in line so a I assume the other 40 passes went to Haven passengers. Or special assistance group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmbhardy Posted December 5, 2018 #16 Share Posted December 5, 2018 With more and more people achieving Platinum staus because of all the double point promotions, the odds of anyone getting passes not in a priority embarkation position is fast becoming remote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanBlueWaters Posted December 5, 2018 #17 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Comical to make people RUN for passes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZcreature Posted December 5, 2018 #18 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, ziggyuk said: I find it amazing NCL have not correctly priced this product, demand clearly proves it is underpriced, from history NCL grab every penny they can. It's a premium product but being offered too cheaply. I find it amazing that you would suggest NCL should charge more money for an item. They don't need any encouragement in this department 😉. Offering passes on line at a certain number of days ahead of time would be a great idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KweezyCruiser Posted December 5, 2018 #19 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Getting a first shot at Vibe passes is effectively a Haven perk. I can’t imagine NCL removing/reducing a Haven perk. Online purchase with a head start for Haven guests doesn’t remedy that problem because not all Haven guests book cruises that far out (I.e., before final payment date). Also, purchasing in advance means you can’t purchase with OBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugsammy Posted December 5, 2018 Author #20 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, LrgPizza said: So did you actually get Vibe passes or not? Yes we did....was at the pier by 8:30 and we were numbers 22-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmbhardy Posted December 5, 2018 #21 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I think this has been suggested before but why not have a bidding process to secure passes. The highest 60 bids would win a pass. The bidding would be open to everyone, regardless of latitude status or what cabin category they booked. People bid on cabins, why not on Vibe passes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted December 5, 2018 #22 Share Posted December 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, gmbhardy said: The highest 60 bids would win a pass. It has been suggested before but the thought process is that someone spending $10K+ on a suite won't "feel" the extra cost of a bid as much as someone spending much less on a non-suite. Percentage-wise, someone in an interior or oceanview is unlikely to add another chunk to their total in order to bid on a VIBE pass. It also turns into "...they have so much, why not let others have a piece...?" when the idea of suite guests outbidding everyone else comes up. 50 minutes ago, gmbhardy said: People bid on cabins, why not on Vibe passes? It's a little different because people also have the option to book directly what they want for a stateroom. In the "bid for VIBE" scenario, there is no option to buy a VIBE pass directly. Even if some were sold in advance and the rest went up for bid, the same problems with bidding will arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Master 55 Posted December 5, 2018 #23 Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 hours ago, pugsammy said: I just want to rant! Don't get me wrong....I love the VIBE experience....I HATE having to race for it. I just find it very demeaning. I'd like to know why this can't be booked with your cruise. Because if they did, the passes would sell out so fast that people would complain about them being sold that way. Truthfully the Vibe is more hype than anything else. They just need to raise the price high enough that demand just barely reaches supply. Equilibrium is great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Master 55 Posted December 5, 2018 #24 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, DZcreature said: I find it amazing that you would suggest NCL should charge more money for an item. They don't need any encouragement in this department 😉. Offering passes on line at a certain number of days ahead of time would be a great idea. Actually raising the price is the best solution. It will drive down the competition better than anything else. In fact the best pricing model for any commodity is one where supply/demand equilibrium is achieved. Nothing at all amazing about it even slightly. Very basic economics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Master 55 Posted December 5, 2018 #25 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, OceanBlueWaters said: Comical to make people RUN for passes... No one is "making" anyone do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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