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2 hours ago, K32682 said:

Did he break any laws?  While it's a bit dumb to have jumped off the ship, he survived, no one else got hurt and after the group was thrown off the boat the cruise presumably continued as scheduled.  

 

That is irrelevant. There are many things you can do on a cruise ship that are strongly prohibited, that don't have to be illegal.

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3 hours ago, K32682 said:

Did he break any laws?  While it's a bit dumb to have jumped off the ship, he survived, no one else got hurt and after the group was thrown off the boat the cruise presumably continued as scheduled.  

 

Yes, he probably did break a law.  In US waters actions interfering with the safe operation of a vessel (specifically jumping off a vessel and thereby diverting crew’s attention from safe performance of regular duties) are deemed punishable offenses - Bahamas may very well have similar approach.

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8 hours ago, K32682 said:

Did he break any laws?  While it's a bit dumb to have jumped off the ship, he survived, no one else got hurt and after the group was thrown off the boat the cruise presumably continued as scheduled.  

They didn't comply with the Save the Waves program. 

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9 hours ago, K32682 said:

Did he break any laws?  While it's a bit dumb to have jumped off the ship, he survived, no one else got hurt and after the group was thrown off the boat the cruise presumably continued as scheduled.  

Yes, at least the cruise contract as it states that passengers will not throw anything off the ship, that includes themselves.

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9 hours ago, K32682 said:

Did he break any laws?  While it's a bit dumb to have jumped off the ship, he survived, no one else got hurt and after the group was thrown off the boat the cruise presumably continued as scheduled.  

 

You are defending this idiot? "......a bit dumb"!!! More like extreme stupidity. 

 

Would you say the same thing if he tried to run across a busy 4 lane freeway and survived? 🙄

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12 hours ago, K32682 said:

Did he break any laws?  While it's a bit dumb to have jumped off the ship, he survived, no one else got hurt and after the group was thrown off the boat the cruise presumably continued as scheduled.  

 

To answer your first question, yes, he did.  Had this occurred in the US, state nuisance laws such as mischief, disorderly conduct or disorderly intoxication would apply.  The Bahamas have similar laws.  Bahamian Penal Codes 200 (Intoxicated Persons), 209 (Disorderly Persons) and 212 (General Nuisance) would apply.  Why he wasn't arrested is beyond me but he should be counting his lucky stars that one, he's alive and two, he's not sitting in a Bahamian prison.  

 

To comment on your second statement, calling this act "a bit dumb" is a gross understatement.  Having 1 too many is a it dumb.  Cutting a line is a bit dumb.  Jumping 11 stories off a cruise ship balcony is totally idiotic.  

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I don't think calling him a idiot or a moron is fair to idoit's and moron's.  This guy is on a whole new level.    

 

Remember why you were a kid and you did something because a friend did it and your mom would say "If  ---- jumped of a bridge would you?"  Well it is clear would this guys answer was.

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15 hours ago, SantaFeFan said:

 

You are defending this idiot? "......a bit dumb"!!! More like extreme stupidity. 

 

Would you say the same thing if he tried to run across a busy 4 lane freeway and survived? 🙄

Running across a busy 4 lane freeway puts other people at risk because they may brake or swerve in an attempt to avoid him resulting in high-speed crashes.

 

In this case the only risk was to the jumper himself and no one else.  I'm not defending the guy but I'm also not engaging in the usual histrionics and pearl clutching.  Sometimes young men get drunk and do foolish things.  On a scale of 1-10 this would be a 3 perhaps a 4. 

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16 hours ago, MicCanberra said:

or jumped off a 11 floor building into a pool?

A pool isn't as deep as the ocean and it's a smaller target.  There is a far greater risk of hitting the bottom or missing the mark. 

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34 minutes ago, K32682 said:

Running across a busy 4 lane freeway puts other people at risk because they may brake or swerve in an attempt to avoid him resulting in high-speed crashes.

 

In this case the only risk was to the jumper himself and no one else.  I'm not defending the guy but I'm also not engaging in the usual histrionics and pearl clutching.  Sometimes young men get drunk and do foolish things.  On a scale of 1-10 this would be a 3 perhaps a 4. 

 

Since it's no big deal at only a 3 or 4 on a scale of 10, then do it the next time you're on a cruise and tell us about the experience. Better yet, record a video with your phone as you drop and post it here on CC. Maker sure it's in "selfie mode" for best effect. You sound like you think you are better than the rest of us so you must be well capable of sticking the landing and getting away with it. Should get a lot of hits here. 

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2 hours ago, K32682 said:

Sometimes young men get drunk and do foolish things.  On a scale of 1-10 this would be a 3 perhaps a 4. 

 

Well, all I can say is....it's that mindset that people in the search and rescue industry call job security.  

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2 hours ago, K32682 said:

Running across a busy 4 lane freeway puts other people at risk because they may brake or swerve in an attempt to avoid him resulting in high-speed crashes.

 

In this case the only risk was to the jumper himself and no one else.  I'm not defending the guy but I'm also not engaging in the usual histrionics and pearl clutching.  Sometimes young men get drunk and do foolish things.  On a scale of 1-10 this would be a 3 perhaps a 4. 

 

Rediculous!!  

A)From the 11th deck, he would have been at least 60 feet above the water, meaning there was a good chance of serious injury - or death- either from the impact of hitting the water the wrong way or drowning while unconscious.

 

B) Distracting crew from ordinary duties DOES put others at risk.

 

Your comparison is inane —- running across a 4 lane highway can be done with the right timing —- yes, stupid and reckless but hardly any more so than that leap.

 

Any pointless act which risks death  is more than foolish - it IS a big deal;  and recognizing it for what it is is hardly “...histrionics and pearl clutching...” (and so referring to such recognition is an unintelligent way of supporting an unthinking position).

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Instead of laying low after his stupid act, this clown doubles down on the pub grab

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nick-naydev-cruise-ship-leap_us_5c42583ee4b0bfa693c38d1b

 

At least this will be helpful to prospective employers wanting to evaluate his judgement and intelligence whenever they Google his name. For the rest of his life.

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And then there is the other morons comments: However, the man who recorded Naydev’s jump told Yahoo! that he’s disappointed in how Royal Caribbean handled the incident, though he seems not to get the point. He’s jumped from those kind of heights before, and we didn’t really care about the consequences with the cruise company,” he explained. “We just wanted to get a video of it and make it go viral.”

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5 hours ago, K32682 said:

A pool isn't as deep as the ocean and it's a smaller target.  There is a far greater risk of hitting the bottom or missing the mark. 

I suppose this would rate higher in your scale than a 3 or 4?  The point was only idiots would do it and only the fortunate would survive it..

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53 minutes ago, pseudoware said:

Instead of laying low after his stupid act, this clown doubles down on the pub grab

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nick-naydev-cruise-ship-leap_us_5c42583ee4b0bfa693c38d1b

 

At least this will be helpful to prospective employers wanting to evaluate his judgement and intelligence whenever they Google his name. For the rest of his life.

Incredible stupidity .

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5 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

 

A)From the 11th deck, he would have been at least 60 feet above the water, meaning there was a good chance of serious injury - or death- either from the impact of hitting the water the wrong way or drowning while unconscious.

 

More like 100+ feet above the water.

 

At 110 feet, he would have hit the water at about 57 MPH.

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5 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

 

A)From the 11th deck, he would have been at least 60 feet above the water, meaning there was a good chance of serious injury - or death- either from the impact of hitting the water the wrong way or drowning while unconscious.

 

Dupe post

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59 minutes ago, SRF said:

 

More like 100+ feet above the water.

 

At 110 feet, he would have hit the water at about 57 MPH.

You do realize that deck 11 is not 11 decks above the waterline - but above the keel.  Waterline is probably deck 2 or 3 - and figure perhaps 8 to 9 feet per deck  — deck 11 is nowhere near 110 feet above water.

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1 hour ago, SRF said:

 

More like 100+ feet above the water.

 

At 110 feet, he would have hit the water at about 57 MPH.

Agreed, I would think each deck is around 3m which makes it around 33-36 metres. 110-120 feet. Wtaer line may start at around deck 2 but promenade decks are usually around double the height.

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