Rare steamboats Posted April 18, 2019 #1626 Share Posted April 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said: Oasis and Allure both had their previous 5 year dry docks there. No, Oasis was in Rotterdam back in 2014. Allure was in Cadiz in 2015. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted April 18, 2019 #1627 Share Posted April 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, steamboats said: No, Oasis was in Rotterdam back in 2014. Allure was in Cadiz in 2015. steamboats Thanks for the correction. Took a shot at Oasis, but knew that Allure was in Cadiz. 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 18, 2019 #1628 Share Posted April 18, 2019 10 hours ago, chengkp75 said: US Navy contracts are on a "cost plus" basis, and the Navy has no urgency in getting ships back into service. While a commercial ship is lucky to get 2 weeks in shipyard every 5 years, the Navy will park a ship there for up to 18 months. The repairs to Oasis, if any "hidden damage" is discovered, is estimated as it is discovered, on site, not "we'll get an estimator on it tomorrow, and they'll get back to you in a couple of days with a cost", and the price and timeline will be agreed upon between the yard's superintendent and RCI's technical superintendent on the spot. I think refuelling a carrier takes even longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 18, 2019 #1629 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, A&L_Ont said: Thanks for the correction. Took a shot at Oasis, but knew that Allure was in Cadiz. 😊 The Netherlands slapped a huge fine on Royal for violating labor laws on ship. Royal hasn't been back since from what I can tell Edited April 18, 2019 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted April 18, 2019 #1630 Share Posted April 18, 2019 52 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: The Netherlands slapped a huge fine on Royal for violating labor laws on ship. Royal hasn't been back since from what I can tell That's not limited to Royal, none of the lines come to Holland anymore. Last May, the trade association Netherlands Maritime Technology said one billion Euros for work on ships had gone elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted April 18, 2019 #1631 Share Posted April 18, 2019 They aren't wasting time. Already have the cribbing moved from Sunrise's pattern. I don't think this is Oasis's final pattern, but it shows they can move them quick. This was 7 hours ago, so I think Saturday is likely to be the day they get her in there, if not late Friday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted April 19, 2019 #1632 Share Posted April 19, 2019 12 hours ago, John&LaLa said: The Netherlands slapped a huge fine on Royal for violating labor laws on ship. Royal hasn't been back since from what I can tell Exactly, that´s why RCI does not return to Rotterdam. The Spanish are happy to get the contracts. steamboats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 19, 2019 #1633 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, fsjosh said: They aren't wasting time. Already have the cribbing moved from Sunrise's pattern. I don't think this is Oasis's final pattern, but it shows they can move them quick. This was 7 hours ago, so I think Saturday is likely to be the day they get her in there, if not late Friday. Actually, that is just the blocks being set out of the way to start setting for Oasis. There is no central line of blocks, which are the major load bearing area, then a line of blocks on each side near the "turn of the bilge" where the hull goes from horizontal to vertical. Typically, the blocks are moved around by forklift truck, and must be placed to tolerances of a few inches to assure that the block is under the proper structure inside the ship. Each ships also comes from the builder's yard with two "blocking diagrams", so that those areas covered by the blocks in one drydock (which of course can't be cleaned or painted) are uncovered at the next drydock to allow painting. Edited April 19, 2019 by chengkp75 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted April 19, 2019 #1634 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Looks like sets of Dominoes... hopefully no forklift hit one of the "end" ones... 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim1 Posted April 19, 2019 #1635 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) Someone took advantage of a better angle.... Edited April 19, 2019 by Aim1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 19, 2019 #1636 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Aim1 said: Someone took advantage of a better angle.... Thank you. They certainly aren't wasting any time. They've already cut off the port side balconies on Decks 7, 8 and 9, and the starboard side balcony on Deck 7, and they are busy on the edge of Deck 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted April 19, 2019 #1637 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Yeah, looking at those pics, The balconies should definitely all be fixed by the May 5th cruise. There should be no reason the azipod work won't be done. So unless the mechanics of the aquatheater are damaged and they can't get replacements in time, the May 5th cruise should have a whole boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in Phoenix Posted April 19, 2019 #1638 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Pratique said: Thank you. They certainly aren't wasting any time. They've already cut off the port side balconies on Decks 7, 8 and 9, and the starboard side balcony on Deck 7, and they are busy on the edge of Deck 15. Did you mean Starboard 7, 8, and 9? I always thought that the Port side was the left side of the boat as you are looking forward. Sorry if I am incorrect about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted April 19, 2019 #1639 Share Posted April 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, Paul in Phoenix said: Did you mean Starboard 7, 8, and 9? I always thought that the Port side was the left side of the boat as you are looking forward. Sorry if I am incorrect about that. No, the port(left) side balconies took more damage. The starboard deck 7 balcony was crushed, but the part of the crane that hit the upper deck by the wave riders appears to came down and hit the port side balconies as it fell. In the last picture above you can see the tips of the balconies are cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in Phoenix Posted April 19, 2019 #1640 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, fsjosh said: No, the port(left) side balconies took more damage. The starboard deck 7 balcony was crushed, but the part of the crane that hit the upper deck by the wave riders appears to came down and hit the port side balconies as it fell. In the last picture above you can see the tips of the balconies are cut off. I didn't realize the Port side took on so much damage, for some reason, I thought the Starboard side took the brunt of it. I am on the 5/12 trip and have been carefully watching what is going on. From my understanding, my muster station is in the Aquatheater, so I will get a good look at things right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volk904 Posted April 19, 2019 #1641 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I believe those steel pcs on the helipad brought from Freeport are the replacement balcony support frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted April 19, 2019 #1642 Share Posted April 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Paul in Phoenix said: I didn't realize the Port side took on so much damage, for some reason, I thought the Starboard side took the brunt of it. I am on the 5/12 trip and have been carefully watching what is going on. From my understanding, my muster station is in the Aquatheater, so I will get a good look at things right away. The base of the crane folded over the Starboard side at the 7th floor balcony and AQ screen, but missed the 8th floor balcony. The base is only so wide so it split that gap fairly well. The upper "T" part of the crane is the part that hit the upper decks and came down the other side and finally folded over the edge of the ship on the Port side. Theres a couple pics from the day of, and the video of the crew evacuating that show the damage somewhat. I didn't think that the port side damage was as bad as it is. I thought it just sheared the railings off. But apparently it did deck damage as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Sea Dog Posted April 19, 2019 #1643 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Here is a zoomed in shot of the damage to the Balconies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 19, 2019 #1644 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, fsjosh said: The base of the crane folded over the Starboard side at the 7th floor balcony and AQ screen, but missed the 8th floor balcony. The base is only so wide so it split that gap fairly well. The upper "T" part of the crane is the part that hit the upper decks and came down the other side and finally folded over the edge of the ship on the Port side. Theres a couple pics from the day of, and the video of the crew evacuating that show the damage somewhat. I didn't think that the port side damage was as bad as it is. I thought it just sheared the railings off. But apparently it did deck damage as well. I thought the port side damage was from the first crane to fall from the port side of the dry dock. Two cranes fell onto the ship, one from each side. During the evacuation the starboard crane was still standing upright. Edit: As far as I can tell, the crane lying across the Aquatheater is the port side crane. The starboard side crane leaned against the ship but didn't come down into the theater. At least this was what I thought happened. Edited April 19, 2019 by Pratique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted April 19, 2019 #1645 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pratique said: I thought the port side damage was from the first crane to fall from the port side of the dry dock. Two cranes fell onto the ship, one from each side. During the evacuation the starboard crane was still standing upright. Only one crane fell. That White thing sticking out in the picture above is the Starboard crane. Theres actually two cranes on each side. The two port side cranes only were leaning against the ship. Heres a shot from the upper deck. You can see the Starboard crane laying across the deck and the upper part of the crane sticking out past the ship. Heres another shot of how the Starboard crane was laying: Edited April 19, 2019 by fsjosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 19, 2019 #1646 Share Posted April 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, volk904 said: I believe those steel pcs on the helipad brought from Freeport are the replacement balcony support frames. Doubt it. More likely they are specialized work platforms for the azipod repairs. Way too much structure there for a simple balcony, and it wouldn't be rusty. That stuff has been used hard and put away wet several times in a shipyard to be replacement steel. Besides, the engineers from Cadiz that rode the ship would have annotated Oasis' plans and sent the required segments to the yard for fabrication during the crossing. Things like this are built in the steel fabrication buildings and only brought out to the ship when the final weld to join it to the ship is all that is required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 19, 2019 #1647 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, fsjosh said: That White thing sticking out in the picture above is the Starboard crane. Theres actually two cranes on each side. The two port side cranes only were leaning against the ship. OK I see now how the lower portion of the first crane is folded over the starboard side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
above sea level cruiser Posted April 19, 2019 #1648 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Does anyone have any anonymous pictures from anyone onboard or do you think that the area will now be absolutely and completely off limits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lionesss Posted April 20, 2019 #1649 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 hours ago, above sea level cruiser said: Does anyone have any anonymous pictures from anyone onboard or do you think that the area will now be absolutely and completely off limits? We need someone who works for the FBI, CIA or Scotland yard to handle this (WINK WINK) Saying for a friend. Safe travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish67 Posted April 20, 2019 #1650 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Lionesss said: We need someone who works for the FBI, CIA or Scotland yard to handle this (WINK WINK) Saying for a friend. Safe travels. Working on it 🙂 I did find out that they've replaced the ice skating rink with fresh ice so that's something? Looks like their making good progress on the damage caused by the crane and I think they are due to provide an update on 4/23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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