LJJQ Posted August 8, 2019 #1 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I just read that Venice, Italy has banned cruise ships from docking in the city! I wonder how this will affect Celebrity from going there in the future! We visited Venice twice on the Millennium and loved this visit! https://www.express.co.uk/travel/cruise/1163154/cruise-ship-venice-cruises-ban-italy-holidays-latest-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftwood Posted August 8, 2019 #2 Share Posted August 8, 2019 As wonderful a place as Venice is, this ban is long overdue in my opinion and to be quite honest, there are a number of places that should introduce a similar ban or at least place a restriction by gross tonnage to keep larger vessels out. If you want to visit somewhere then try and find an alternative means of travel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerelmx Posted August 8, 2019 #3 Share Posted August 8, 2019 It will be an option that the ship be anchored outside the port and make the tenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkline Posted August 8, 2019 #4 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Lots of different cruise lines go there. I bet they already have backup plans to just stop somewhere else nearby and use tenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.M.T. Posted August 8, 2019 #5 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Respect to the Venetians for taling back contol of their city, will others follow? OK this article is not about cruise passengers but tourists in general: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-49171477/hallstatt-a-town-of-800-people-that-gets-a-million-tourists-a-year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted August 8, 2019 #6 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I am happy we took cruise last year out of there... I think docking out of city is doable, but sailaway via Laguna is something amazing and that would be missed by upcoming cruisers there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruin Steve Posted August 8, 2019 #7 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) I am suddenly increasingly interested--we have back-to-back cruises next summer on Infinity for which the changeover port is Venice...and it includes an overnight in Venice on the second itinerary...so, we were scheduled to be there for two full days at the midpoint of our cruise... From further reading, it appears that there are two or three other dock locations on the mainland--within 3 miles of Venice--that could be used (Fusina or Marghera)...So, Venice is likely to remain on cruise itineraries--but getting TO Venice proper will become a bit more of an adventure--since you could have most of those cruise passengers clogging the one causeway that heads from the mainland to Piazzale Roma. You also lose that spectacular "sailaway" into and out of Venice... I am also waiting to hear the specifics of the ban. As recently as last year, what was being proposed was a ban on cruise ships OVER 96,000 gross tons. If that is the case, ships like the Infinity would still be able to dock in Venice...along with other M-Class as well as the ships used by Azamara, Oceania and most of the luxury cruise lines. However, if they've gone beyond that, it will certainly change things for everyone cruising to Venice... I am waiting to hear from Celebrity... Edited August 8, 2019 by Bruin Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirdan Posted August 8, 2019 #8 Share Posted August 8, 2019 As far I know CelebrityCruises already complies with the rules, and already cruises docks on cruise terminal (and not in the city center). So this should not be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highpeaklad Posted August 8, 2019 #9 Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cirdan said: As far I know CelebrityCruises already complies with the rules, and already cruises docks on cruise terminal (and not in the city center). So this should not be a problem. It’s the cruise terminal they are talking about. That’s where they want to move the ships away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted August 8, 2019 #10 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Cirdan said: As far I know CelebrityCruises already complies with the rules, and already cruises docks on cruise terminal (and not in the city center). So this should not be a problem. All large ships do dock on cruise terminal although last year we sailed next to Azamara ship which was docked not at San Marco, but in the city. But I think they want to ban ship from sailing via Laguna and docking in cruise port Edited August 8, 2019 by Tatka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted August 8, 2019 #11 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Toftwood said: As wonderful a place as Venice is, this ban is long overdue in my opinion and to be quite honest, there are a number of places that should introduce a similar ban or at least place a restriction by gross tonnage to keep larger vessels out. If you want to visit somewhere then try and find an alternative means of travel. Dubrovnik. Mallorca. Santorini. To name a few. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRH Posted August 8, 2019 #12 Share Posted August 8, 2019 We’re on the Constellation out of Venice in October 2019. Nothing from Celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan Posted August 8, 2019 #13 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Tatka said: I am happy we took cruise last year out of there... I think docking out of city is doable, but sailaway via Laguna is something amazing and that would be missed by upcoming cruisers there. The ban is long overdue and necessary to preserve Venice, but it will be a huge loss of the sheer joy of sailing out past St Mark’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan Posted August 8, 2019 #14 Share Posted August 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, ECCruise said: Dubrovnik. Mallorca. Santorini. To name a few. Ships are docking at Santorini now? Or is the problem masses of cruisers walking around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted August 8, 2019 #15 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Just now, jagsfan said: Ships are docking at Santorini now? Or is the problem masses of cruisers walking around? Still tendering but getting up the hill becomes more and more a challenge. And a zoo there and in Oia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted August 8, 2019 #16 Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Bruin Steve said: I am suddenly increasingly interested--we have back-to-back cruises next summer on Infinity for which the changeover port is Venice...and it includes an overnight in Venice on the second itinerary...so, we were scheduled to be there for two full days at the midpoint of our cruise... From further reading, it appears that there are two or three other dock locations on the mainland--within 3 miles of Venice--that could be used (Fusina or Marghera)...So, Venice is likely to remain on cruise itineraries--but getting TO Venice proper will become a bit more of an adventure--since you could have most of those cruise passengers clogging the one causeway that heads from the mainland to Piazzale Roma. You also lose that spectacular "sailaway" into and out of Venice... I am also waiting to hear the specifics of the ban. As recently as last year, what was being proposed was a ban on cruise ships OVER 96,000 gross tons. If that is the case, ships like the Infinity would still be able to dock in Venice...along with other M-Class as well as the ships used by Azamara, Oceania and most of the luxury cruise lines. However, if they've gone beyond that, it will certainly change things for everyone cruising to Venice... I am waiting to hear from Celebrity... BBC NEWS is stating over 1000 tonnes "Large cruise ships are to be banned from entering Venice's historic centre, the Italian government says. Ships weighing more than 1,000 tonnes will be rerouted away from certain waterways from September." "Starting from next month, some liners will be forced to dock at the Fusina and Lombardia terminals away from the city centre" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted August 8, 2019 #17 Share Posted August 8, 2019 we have just done a med cruise and I get both sides of this Venice is too small, too unique and too valuable to ruin but at the same time it was a majestic sail away in the dark at 11pm (delay due to weather). But needs must and we can't risk this city. Also visited Trogir and it could not cope with the hordes of cruise passengers that day. Like Santorini it would probably be an amazing place without us there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highpeaklad Posted August 8, 2019 #18 Share Posted August 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, fragilek said: BBC NEWS is stating over 1000 tonnes "Large cruise ships are to be banned from entering Venice's historic centre, the Italian government says. Ships weighing more than 1,000 tonnes will be rerouted away from certain waterways from September." "Starting from next month, some liners will be forced to dock at the Fusina and Lombardia terminals away from the city centre" Let’s hope that should read 100,000 tonnes. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted August 8, 2019 #19 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Highpeaklad said: Let’s hope that should read 100,000 tonnes. Fingers crossed. well I was thinking if it's 1000 then the aqua-laguna water bus would also be banned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Miaminice Posted August 8, 2019 #20 Share Posted August 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, fragilek said: well I was thinking if it's 1000 then the aqua-laguna water bus would also be banned 😂😂😂 That might be true if the number was 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Miaminice Posted August 8, 2019 #21 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Bruin Steve said: So, Venice is likely to remain on cruise itineraries--but getting TO Venice proper will become a bit more of an adventure--since you could have most of those cruise passengers clogging the one causeway that heads from the mainland to Piazzale Roma. I can understand and welcome the changes. However, please allow me a remark regarding your comment. Venice sees 24 to 30 million tourists a year. 1.4 to 1.6 millions are cruise passengers. They hardly make a difference on the causeway. Plus, the causeway is already used now... passengers are already using it to get to the port or city from the airport. In the future they‘ll be using it the other way around if they stay in the city before the cruise. If not, they don‘t have to use it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishuponasea Posted August 8, 2019 #22 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Our travel agent just sent me an article about Venice and banning cruise ships. We have an extended trip planned that includes staying in Venice post cruise (June 2020). I just e-mailed Celebrity since we are in the process of making our plans and looking at hotels. This would really complicate things. Fingers crossed that Celebrity and Venice figure out a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Miaminice Posted August 8, 2019 #23 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, wishuponasea said: Our travel agent just sent me an article about Venice and banning cruise ships. We have an extended trip planned that includes staying in Venice post cruise (June 2020). I just e-mailed Celebrity since we are in the process of making our plans and looking at hotels. This would really complicate things. Fingers crossed that Celebrity and Venice figure out a good plan. Don‘t worry... transfer to the city is a piece of cake from any of the ports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruin Steve Posted August 8, 2019 #24 Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Miaminice said: Venice sees 24 to 30 million tourists a year. 1.4 to 1.6 millions are cruise passengers. They hardly make a difference on the causeway. Plus, the causeway is already used now... passengers are already using it to get to the port or city from the airport. All of those users remain...The traffic on the causeway comment was based on the notion that you might have several cruise ships all docking in the early morning in Marghera/Fusina...say, around 15,000 passengers in a given day, in season......All will want to take tours or shore excursions or independently travel into Venice...Yes, you might accommodate some with water taxis or Vaporetti, but figure a lot of those passengers will load onto tour buses, taxis, buses or other local transportation and make the ride across--all at relatively the same time...People coming in or out of the airport or entering the city by car tend to be spread out throughout the day. Cruise passengers all exit the ship virtually at once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Miaminice Posted August 8, 2019 #25 Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bruin Steve said: Cruise passengers all exit the ship virtually at once... So just as it is already the case... Venice is embarkation and disembarkation port for mans cruises and often many ships a day. After disembarkation most of the passengers head to the airport at once... I travel to Venice frequently. Not cruise related. Even when I see several ships in port, the causeway is not more crowded than usual. IMHO that‘s not going to be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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