twincheryl Posted March 17, 2020 #101 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Come on people... most of us here are fairly loyal to Celebrity or RC. They are in a huge crisis right now and things are changing every day. I'd love to know what's going on with all 7 of my booked cruises. Business owners of every size and kind of business are facing huge losses and trying to salvage what they can. Restaurants, hotels, tour operators... the list is long. I'm all for speculation of what they are going to do and enjoy having stuff to read while I'm sitting at home doing nothing. Have they made some mistakes? Of course... Do we need to vent? Of course... But blaming Celebrity for not posting a decision about a cruise that is 4 weeks away is just crazy. It could change within hours. Let's try to take a breath and be a little patient... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 17, 2020 #102 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, UKPete71 said: What would you like them to say? Well, for starters, they could answer the many questions that have been posed on this board for which there are no answers on the website and contradictory answers provided by Celebrity. 57 minutes ago, UKPete71 said: I'm sure they've a lot on their plate already and will be announcing more cancellations in due course. Undoubtedly. On the other hand, it would take one employee just a few minutes to identify the cruises prior to July 1 that have one or more scheduled embarkation, stops or disembarkation in Canadian ports. Due to the Canadian ban, these cruises can not proceed as scheduled. Not only have booked passengers not been informed by Celebrity of what options are even under consideration, but the website continues to accept booking with no warning to prospective passengers that the cruises are likely to be cancelled. Celebrity meanwhile will happily pocket their deposits. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPete71 Posted March 17, 2020 #103 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fouremco said: but the website continues to accept booking with no warning to prospective passengers that the cruises are likely to be cancelled. Celebrity meanwhile will happily pocket their deposits. Do you really think they’ve taken (m)any bookings for the second half of April and into May since their last announcement on Sunday ? Edited March 17, 2020 by UKPete71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 17, 2020 #104 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, UKPete71 said: Do you really think they’ve taken (m)any bookings for the second half of April and into May since their last announcement on Saturday ? No idea, but they continue to promote with no warnings the May Captain's Club 2020 Reunion Cruise, not only through the normal cruise finder but also on the Captain's Club webpages. Very dishonest, IMO. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downsmead Posted March 17, 2020 #105 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (CNN)The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Sunday recommended that no gatherings with 50 people or more take place for the next eight weeks to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. How does this fit with commencing cruising on April 11th? 🤷♀️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP99 Posted March 17, 2020 #106 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, twincheryl said: Come on people... most of us here are fairly loyal to Celebrity or RC. They are in a huge crisis right now and things are changing every day. I'd love to know what's going on with all 7 of my booked cruises. Business owners of every size and kind of business are facing huge losses and trying to salvage what they can. Restaurants, hotels, tour operators... the list is long. I'm all for speculation of what they are going to do and enjoy having stuff to read while I'm sitting at home doing nothing. Have they made some mistakes? Of course... Do we need to vent? Of course... But blaming Celebrity for not posting a decision about a cruise that is 4 weeks away is just crazy. It could change within hours. Let's try to take a breath and be a little patient... They could be honest with their online form to get a refund for a cancelled cruise. They say that they will send a "confirmation email shortly". No email sent to anyone (see other posts) yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty1955 Posted March 17, 2020 #107 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, UKPete71 said: Do you really think they’ve taken (m)any bookings for the second half of April and into May since their last announcement on Sunday ? Somebody posted today that they just booked our 4/25 TA. So, yes, I think they are still taking bookings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluso Posted March 18, 2020 #108 Share Posted March 18, 2020 As of today, all Florida public schools are closed until 15 April. Talk about a Spring Break.. Anyway, might be another indicator that cruises will not start as soon as advertised. 😲 Just chill. Stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted March 18, 2020 #109 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Next announcement of cancellation? If they stay true to form April 9. The other lines, several days before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvbaskey Posted March 18, 2020 #110 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Fouremco said: No idea, but they continue to promote with no warnings the May Captain's Club 2020 Reunion Cruise, not only through the normal cruise finder but also on the Captain's Club webpages. Very dishonest, IMO. Celebrity Summit “X”-Night Maine & “Let’s Sea” 2020 Reunion Cruise On May 28, you might be able to mingle with your fellow Captain’s Club members on a X-night Maine and Let’s Sea Cruise departing Cape Liberty, New Jersey. Stops will include Cape Liberty, Cape Liberty, Sea Day, Sea Day, Cape Liberty, Cape Liberty. Our new and revised Maine from the Sea and Let’s Sea itinerary offers the chance to really get to know Cape Liberty, giving you the urban feel of New Jersey and the New York skyline. Plus, you’ll be immersed in the beauty of the Acadian National Park from the Promenade Deck and then continue the experience of a life time, discovering the charm of the Atlantic Ocean.Fine print: Please note, despite selling you an itinerary that includes Canada, her ports are closed until July 01, 2020. Edited March 18, 2020 by hvbaskey 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted March 18, 2020 #111 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, jerryd1 said: Canada has announced that their ports are closed to ships larger than 500 passengers. Alaska cruises must, by US law, make a stop in a non US port. Other ports around the world have said that specific ports are closed for a specific time. Celebrity should acknowledge that fact and they should either cancel/quit selling those cruises or let us know what their plan B is. I asked Celebrity via chat about this very situation regarding our June 19 Alaska cruise out of Seattle and they indicated that we would probably hear something by the end of this week. Coincidentally, the end of the week is right after our final payment deadline. If I had an Alaska cruise booked and was pre-final payment, I would cancel the cruise. That way, you get your deposit back and you don't get stuck with FCC that you may or may not be able to use. I'm not convinced there is going to be an Alaska cruise season this year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryd1 Posted March 18, 2020 #112 Share Posted March 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said: If I had an Alaska cruise booked and was pre-final payment, I would cancel the cruise. That way, you get your deposit back and you don't get stuck with FCC that you may or may not be able to use. I'm not convinced there is going to be an Alaska cruise season this year. I agree with one exception....we booked with a non refundable deposit. So, we'd get everything other than the deposit back and a FCC for the value of the deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_tchr Posted March 18, 2020 Author #113 Share Posted March 18, 2020 One more nail. CNN just reported that there will be a ban on "non-essential travel" between Canada and the US. Article suggested Mexico border possibly - this one fuzzier - same closing. Significant flexibility mentioned. Commercial traffic not included. Presume tourism would be excluded from crossing. Was clear all parties have agreed to the closing and exemptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 18, 2020 #114 Share Posted March 18, 2020 If they follow Australia's lead, we have just been banned - Do Not Travel - to anywhere. With no estimate as to when that will change. First time in our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare leck57 Posted March 18, 2020 #115 Share Posted March 18, 2020 There are some cruises outside the current no sail period that could be cancelled now so that passengers can get refunds and move on with their lives. For example Solstice leaving Sydney 25 April to Hawaii via NZ and Tahiti. 1) Any person arriving in Australia from anywhere overseas now has to self isolate for 14 days. Our Solstice cruise has many passengers from the US so as it stands those people have to arrive in Australia at least 14 days prior and lock themselves away. 2) ports on New Zealand are closed to cruise ships and the lockout extends beyond our arrival dates in NZ 3) ports in French Polynesia are closed 4) if we get to Hawaii (after about 16 sea days as all transit ports are closed) then our flights back to Australia are already cancelled by Hawaiian Air. That is just for starters but I think it is fair bet that this cruise isn't happening and Celebrity should be making the call now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvbaskey Posted March 18, 2020 #116 Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 hours ago, jerryd1 said: I agree with one exception....we booked with a non refundable deposit. So, we'd get everything other than the deposit back and a FCC for the value of the deposit. That seems like a very good deal at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexmiller Posted March 18, 2020 #117 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, leck57 said: There are some cruises outside the current no sail period that could be cancelled now so that passengers can get refunds and move on with their lives. For example Solstice leaving Sydney 25 April to Hawaii via NZ and Tahiti. 1) Any person arriving in Australia from anywhere overseas now has to self isolate for 14 days. Our Solstice cruise has many passengers from the US so as it stands those people have to arrive in Australia at least 14 days prior and lock themselves away. 2) ports on New Zealand are closed to cruise ships and the lockout extends beyond our arrival dates in NZ 3) ports in French Polynesia are closed 4) if we get to Hawaii (after about 16 sea days as all transit ports are closed) then our flights back to Australia are already cancelled by Hawaiian Air. That is just for starters but I think it is fair bet that this cruise isn't happening and Celebrity should be making the call now. Yes, and the Solstice cruise right before the one you mention, April 14 - 25, begins in Auckland, with 4 port calls in New Zealand, then Melbourne, ending in Sydney on the 25th. And the cruise after the April 25 cruise you detail above - May 11 - May 21, ends in Vancouver! And we know that Canada has closed it's borders to cruise ships until July 1! So, yes, these cruises will all be cancelled by Celebrity. We are awaiting the news so we can claim our cash refund...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandee2 Posted March 20, 2020 #118 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I don't know why people think that the cruise business will be normal this summer. The last thing Italy and other Mediteranean country need are crowds of tourist on their shore. My Sept. is not cancelled yet but looking at the world event, no cruise will happen until next year. I'm staying home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melish27 Posted March 21, 2020 #119 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 9:33 PM, grandgeezer said: Next announcement of cancellation? If they stay true to form April 9. The other lines, several days before that. April 9??? That wouldn't exactly work well for my April 11 sailing (one they refused to cancel even though it sails on Day 28 of their "30-day" no-sail window). We've temporarily booked the same, far more expensive sailing for next year—but down payments (which can't come from FCCs) are due on April 8. I sure hope they make the announcement sooner than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted March 21, 2020 #120 Share Posted March 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, melish27 said: April 9??? That wouldn't exactly work well for my April 11 sailing (one they refused to cancel even though it sails on Day 28 of their "30-day" no-sail window). We've temporarily booked the same, far more expensive sailing for next year—but down payments (which can't come from FCCs) are due on April 8. I sure hope they make the announcement sooner than that. This is just a opinion based on how they handled the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1 Posted March 21, 2020 #121 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 10:48 AM, dandee2 said: I don't know why people think that the cruise business will be normal this summer. The last thing Italy and other Mediteranean country need are crowds of tourist on their shore. My Sept. is not cancelled yet but looking at the world event, no cruise will happen until next year. I'm staying home. I agree, I’m not even going to start looking until 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted March 21, 2020 #122 Share Posted March 21, 2020 They have to know the sentiment situation. Who would even think about getting on a cruise ship any time in the next 60 days, at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty1955 Posted March 21, 2020 #123 Share Posted March 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, ECCruise said: They have to know the sentiment situation. Who would even think about getting on a cruise ship any time in the next 60 days, at least? I would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted March 21, 2020 #124 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 minute ago, patty1955 said: I would Said with all politeness that I can muster, and spoken from someone who got off a ship a week ago. You'd have to be insane. Getting on a ship with people from all over the world, NONE of which you know is COVID-19 free. Sure, they may not exhibit symptoms now (no raised temperature) but may very well show them tomorrow. And infect hundreds of people. You would have no idea which, if any, ports would receive the ship (we were barred from 6 ports). Including not knowing whether or not you could dock at your disembarkation port (including ours). Should I list the more than a dozen ships that have experienced blocked disembarkation ports? Spending hours and hours on over clogged phone and internet lines changing air arrangements. And finding the next day that the flights were canceled. So having to spend hours and hours doing the same thing. Literally, and I do not say this lightly, you could not pay me $10,000 to sail in the next 60 days. Not on your life. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 21, 2020 #125 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ECCruise said: They have to know the sentiment situation. Who would even think about getting on a cruise ship any time in the next 60 days, at least? 25 minutes ago, patty1955 said: I would 15 minutes ago, ECCruise said: Said with all politeness that I can muster, and spoken from someone who got off a ship a week ago. You'd have to be insane. Maybe @patty1955 just meant that she would think about it, not actually go? Edited March 21, 2020 by Fouremco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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