chipmaster Posted May 1, 2020 #201 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, SRF said: Why not? THEIR people are protected. What do they care about others?????? Very simply bunch of obese, diabetic, stupid, land and get sick and die in port .. that is a lot of bodies to dispose of 😉 On a serious note you do realize the SARS-CoV-2 virus has mutated several times and there are now different strains that we can trace from China, Europe etc... No vaccine is 100% effective and also you are one mutation from losing it's effectiveness. I highly doubt Italy wants to see a repeat or any country for that matter. Look at what China and So Korea are doing with re-starting international flights. Pre test, track, landing test + quarantine. It is a foolish country and more foolish leaders that would be so cavalier right now. Edited May 1, 2020 by chipmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted May 1, 2020 #202 Share Posted May 1, 2020 21 hours ago, cruisemom42 said: No vaccine is 100% effective, and no population is 100% vaccinated. So, you require everyone coming in to vaccinated. But then it is not 100% effective, so you have not prevented it from coming in As for not everyone being vaccinated or immune, see herd immunity. Based on your reasoning, every country should require everyone entering to have measles and DPT vaccinations also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted May 1, 2020 #203 Share Posted May 1, 2020 9 hours ago, chipmaster said: Look at what China and So Korea are doing with re-starting international flights. Pre test, track, landing test + quarantine. It is a foolish country and more foolish leaders that would be so cavalier right now. Two totally different situations. NOW versus after a vaccine is readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted May 1, 2020 #204 Share Posted May 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, SRF said: So, you require everyone coming in to vaccinated. But then it is not 100% effective, so you have not prevented it from coming in As for not everyone being vaccinated or immune, see herd immunity. Based on your reasoning, every country should require everyone entering to have measles and DPT vaccinations also. I am not presenting any "reasoning". Merely stating two incontrovertable facts from which countries, regions, whatever will have to develop their policies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted May 1, 2020 #205 Share Posted May 1, 2020 5 hours ago, SRF said: So, you require everyone coming in to vaccinated. But then it is not 100% effective, so you have not prevented it from coming in As for not everyone being vaccinated or immune, see herd immunity. Based on your reasoning, every country should require everyone entering to have measles and DPT vaccinations also. Precisely because it is not 100% effective is the reason to maximize vaccinations. An 80% effective vaccine applied to 80% of the population provides significantly less protection than that 80% effective vaccine applied to 100%. Herd immunity has increasing likelihood of existing in any real sense as the percentage immunized rises. You are a lot closer to achieving it if you have 90% immunized vs 70%. Because there will always be some slipping through the cracks, you have to aim as high as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted May 1, 2020 #206 Share Posted May 1, 2020 15 hours ago, chipmaster said: It is a foolish country and more foolish leaders that would be so cavalier right now. THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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