GINNY L Posted April 13, 2020 #1 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This gives a list of how many covid-19 cases on each ship. The majority being on Carnival owned cruise lines, IE Princess, Costa, etc., followed by Royal Caribbean owned cruise lines. https://www.yahoo.com/news/cruise-ships-had-confirmed-cases-163928055.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormynow Posted April 13, 2020 #2 Share Posted April 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, GINNY L said: This gives a list of how many covid-19 cases on each ship. The majority being on Carnival owned cruise lines, IE Princess, Costa, etc., followed by Royal Caribbean owned cruise lines. That was 3 confirmed. https://www.yahoo.com/news/cruise-ships-had-confirmed-cases-163928055.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwwfla Posted April 13, 2020 #3 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Hope NCL keeps it that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted April 13, 2020 #4 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Thank you for posting this. Though I think it is possible that some people may have had Covid-19 symptoms before the virus became a thing, it is over all very good news for NCL. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted April 13, 2020 #5 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, GINNY L said: This gives a list of how many covid-19 cases on each ship. The majority being on Carnival owned cruise lines, IE Princess, Costa, etc., followed by Royal Caribbean owned cruise lines. https://www.yahoo.com/news/cruise-ships-had-confirmed-cases-163928055.html thank you , only 3 total , yet many want to blame the cruises and ban it for a year. ridiculous. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershep Posted April 14, 2020 #6 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Thanks for posting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted April 14, 2020 #7 Share Posted April 14, 2020 6 hours ago, GINNY L said: This gives a list of how many covid-19 cases on each ship. The majority being on Carnival owned cruise lines, IE Princess, Costa, etc., followed by Royal Caribbean owned cruise lines. https://www.yahoo.com/news/cruise-ships-had-confirmed-cases-163928055.html It is a source of data. But does not include ships like the POA which has had at least 6 COVID-19 cases onboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted April 14, 2020 #8 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) This list only includes cases that were confirmed on the ships, not people who contracted the virus while cruising, but weren't tested until they got home. I contracted Covid-19 on my March 8th Bliss cruise, but NCL doesn't have that info so I know that my case is definitely not counted on the list. I am certain that I am not the only one. I'm just sharing this information so that people don't get a false sense of security when seeing these numbers. Edited April 14, 2020 by pcakes122 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted April 14, 2020 #9 Share Posted April 14, 2020 No one knows how many cases there were. Testing was hit or miss without severe symptoms, there are still plenty of false negatives in early stages for those tested and the incubation period of up to 14 days kicks the can down the road. Cruise ships are a breeding ground for this type of virus simply due to the enviroment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinmeme Posted April 14, 2020 #10 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Curious how they got these numbers. I read an article weeks ago that showed the Bliss and Breakaway had two straight weeks of the virus. I believe it is the Breakaway that was still floating around with sick crew. This is a sugar coated report. As one poster said his case wasn’t reported because it was once he got home, as be willing to bet there were more. Not everyone does cruise critic to tell their story, or maybe too sick to tell it. BTW the article i read was from CDC reporting Edited April 14, 2020 by cruisinmeme Added to post 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted April 14, 2020 #11 Share Posted April 14, 2020 11 hours ago, pcakes122 said: This list only includes cases that were confirmed on the ships, not people who contracted the virus while cruising, but weren't tested until they got home. I contracted Covid-19 on my March 8th Bliss cruise, but NCL doesn't have that info so I know that my case is definitely not counted on the list. I am certain that I am not the only one. I'm just sharing this information so that people don't get a false sense of security when seeing these numbers. I pray you have made a full recovery. Am wondering how you can pin point exactly where you contracted the virus...meaning if you flew to your embarkation point, could it have been circulating on the plane? Just curious, not trying to be combative as tone in these boards can sometimes be difficult to read. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted April 14, 2020 #12 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The case on Encore peaks my interest and wonder if it was on my cruise. If you remember, our cruise was arriving back to Miami early for a deep cleaning and the next cruise had a 4 hour delay in embarkation. Makes me think there was a positive case on my cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinmeme Posted April 14, 2020 #13 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, david_sobe said: The case on Encore peaks my interest and wonder if it was on my cruise. If you remember, our cruise was arriving back to Miami early for a deep cleaning and the next cruise had a 4 hour delay in embarkation. Makes me think there was a positive case on my cruise. Well i would certainly say it could of well been. How often do they do a deep dive clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted April 15, 2020 #14 Share Posted April 15, 2020 12 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said: I pray you have made a full recovery. Am wondering how you can pin point exactly where you contracted the virus...meaning if you flew to your embarkation point, could it have been circulating on the plane? Just curious, not trying to be combative as tone in these boards can sometimes be difficult to read. Thank you for the well wishes. I am disabled and 95% housebound. I drove myself to the pier in New York City in my own car. I started having symptoms (tremendous fatigue) about 2 days into the cruise and had full respiratory symptoms by debarkation day. I did not even think that I had Covid-19 since at that time the top publicized symptoms were a high fever and sore throat and I had neither of those. The first clue that it might be Covid-19 was the email I received from NCL the next day saying that the virus had been diagnosed in someone on the prior Bliss sailing. That letter, plus my respiratory symptoms, qualified me for a test in New Jersey. My test results were positive. I got on the cruise ship on March 8th believing that I was safe, even though I knew there was a risk of exposure. I just didn't think it would happen to me and so I am just trying to alert others to be cautious. I actually spent the majority of my time in my cabin. I was in the Deluxe Owner's Suite which is as far forward as you can get. I didn't visit any of the common areas such as the buffet, the Atrium or any of the entertainment venues or public bars or restaurants. I ate all my meals either in the Haven Restaurant or in my suite (mostly in my suite.) I did, however, go to the casino three times. I went the first two days of the cruise, but then I wasn't feeling well so I didn't go again until the very last night for just a short time. I had even brought my own spray disinfectant and cleaned all the door knobs, phones, remote controls, etc. when I got onboard. That is why I am sharing my story here. I had a false sense of security and that didn't work out very well for me. I am still battling symptoms to this day, but I am praying that I am over the worst of it and that I will make a full recovery. While I take full responsibility for taking the risk to cruise, I do believe in retrospect that NCL found out about the original case on the Bliss WHILE we were sailing, and not a day after we returned (which is when they sent the letter.) About two days into the cruise, the captain made an announcement that they were going to step up sanitation efforts and that it was just precautionary and that we shouldn't read anything into it. I know I can't be the only one out of 4-5 thousand people on that Bliss sailing that contracted Covid-19, but we will never know. (BTW, the NCL email did not say that we should contact them if we are diagnosed with Covid-19 - just that in accordance with CDC that they needed to notify passengers of the possible exposure. I'm sure they don't want to know how many people got it because then they might have to report that to someone and it's not very good PR!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted April 15, 2020 #15 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, pcakes122 said: Thank you for the well wishes. I am disabled and 95% housebound. I drove myself to the pier in New York City in my own car. I started having symptoms (tremendous fatigue) about 2 days into the cruise and had full respiratory symptoms by debarkation day. I did not even think that I had Covid-19 since at that time the top publicized symptoms were a high fever and sore throat and I had neither of those. The first clue that it might be Covid-19 was the email I received from NCL the next day saying that the virus had been diagnosed in someone on the prior Bliss sailing. That letter, plus my respiratory symptoms, qualified me for a test in New Jersey. My test results were positive. I got on the cruise ship on March 8th believing that I was safe, even though I knew there was a risk of exposure. I just didn't think it would happen to me and so I am just trying to alert others to be cautious. I actually spent the majority of my time in my cabin. I was in the Deluxe Owner's Suite which is as far forward as you can get. I didn't visit any of the common areas such as the buffet, the Atrium or any of the entertainment venues or public bars or restaurants. I ate all my meals either in the Haven Restaurant or in my suite (mostly in my suite.) I did, however, go to the casino three times. I went the first two days of the cruise, but then I wasn't feeling well so I didn't go again until the very last night for just a short time. I had even brought my own spray disinfectant and cleaned all the door knobs, phones, remote controls, etc. when I got onboard. That is why I am sharing my story here. I had a false sense of security and that didn't work out very well for me. I am still battling symptoms to this day, but I am praying that I am over the worst of it and that I will make a full recovery. While I take full responsibility for taking the risk to cruise, I do believe in retrospect that NCL found out about the original case on the Bliss WHILE we were sailing, and not a day after we returned (which is when they sent the letter.) About two days into the cruise, the captain made an announcement that they were going to step up sanitation efforts and that it was just precautionary and that we shouldn't read anything into it. I know I can't be the only one out of 4-5 thousand people on that Bliss sailing that contracted Covid-19, but we will never know. (BTW, the NCL email did not say that we should contact them if we are diagnosed with Covid-19 - just that in accordance with CDC that they needed to notify passengers of the possible exposure. I'm sure they don't want to know how many people got it because then they might have to report that to someone and it's not very good PR!) is it possible you had it before you got on the ship? Edited April 15, 2020 by seaman11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateQ22003 Posted April 15, 2020 #16 Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, seaman11 said: is it possible you had it before you got on the ship? since you said you didnt feel well before getting on board. Where does it say they weren't feeling well before they got on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted April 15, 2020 #17 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, KateQ22003 said: Where does it say they weren't feeling well before they got on board? my mistake i thought she said she didn t feel well before, however the virus can be dormant for a while before it shows up , it is possible she was the one that brought it onboard if she saw symptoms 2 days later,. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted April 15, 2020 #18 Share Posted April 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, seaman11 said: is it possible you had it before you got on the ship? I shared the facts of my story. I believe people are going to tell themselves anything they want to convince themselves that cruising is safe. I think the key message from my story is that I was one of the people who truly believed it was going to be fine to cruise. My cruise left on March 8th and I can't tell you how many of my friends and family told me that I was completely out of my mind to even consider cruising with everything that had been shared on the news. I thought that they were all being overdramatic and that with diligent handwashing and hygiene and being careful where I went on the ship that I would be just fine. Didn't work out that way. Some people will have to learn that lesson the hard way just like I did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishguy1970 Posted April 15, 2020 #19 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) On 4/14/2020 at 12:56 AM, pcakes122 said: This list only includes cases that were confirmed on the ships, not people who contracted the virus while cruising, but weren't tested until they got home. I contracted Covid-19 on my March 8th Bliss cruise, but NCL doesn't have that info so I know that my case is definitely not counted on the list. I am certain that I am not the only one. I'm just sharing this information so that people don't get a false sense of security when seeing these numbers. Thank you for sharing finally someone with common sense. We had two cruises planned for this year and one was on the Bliss April 19, is a complete bummer not to be able to do them however we hope to go back when it's completely safe for me, my companion and everyone around us. Edited April 15, 2020 by spanishguy1970 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted April 15, 2020 #20 Share Posted April 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, seaman11 said: however the virus can be dormant for a while before it shows up , it is possible she was the one that brought it onboard if she saw symptoms 2 days later,. That idea should frighten you if you are considering sailing again soon. What you are saying is that folks who seem perfectly fine and show no symptoms could be boarding the ship and not know that they have Covid-19. Including you. I completely agree! NCL took everyone's temperature upon embarkation and again upon debarkation on my sailing - another step that made me feel "safe." I had no fever (never did throughout this entire ordeal.) Obviously, that was completely useless in identifying that I had Covid-19 by the time I got off the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippydo1 Posted April 15, 2020 #21 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I was on the Breakaway March 7 th cruise which reported 1 case. I didn’t want to go but we weren’t given the option to cancel or postpone and my family wanted to still go. We drove to the port and home. Things began to change rapidly here in the us during that week. I was extra cautious with hand washing, sanitizer, avoiding coughing people, wiping down my room etc. The person who tested positive supposedly went to medical on Day 2 very sick and was taken off the ship on day 4 in Jamaica. On day 2 is when changes like no condiments, menus, self serve, mini golf etc. I was in a FB group of 350 and when we got home several people were having symptoms. We were notified by NCL on Wednesday about the positive passenger About 10 in the group tested positive before the group closed. I began having symptoms 8 days after the cruise and tested positive. I am fully recovered. My husband and daughter had very mild symptoms. My son none at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted April 15, 2020 #22 Share Posted April 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, zippydo1 said: I began having symptoms 8 days after the cruise and tested positive. I am fully recovered. My husband and daughter had very mild symptoms. My son none at all. I am so happy to hear that you have fully recovered! 👍🙏 I have been able to manage the disease at home (thank Heaven!), but my symptoms have continued to linger, probably due to multiple underlying health conditions that I have. That said, I realize that I am one of the lucky ones. Thank you for sharing your story. I think it's important for us to speak out because what has been published in the news seems to be giving folks a false sense of security. I LOVE cruising and I DON'T blame NCL for the fact that I got sick. I just fully realize now how practically impossible it would be for NCL (or any other cruise line) to contain such a highly contagious disease in a cruise ship environment. Right now, there is NO WAY for them to know who might have Covid-19 before embarkation. It is wishful thinking or naivete to believe otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted April 15, 2020 #23 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 hours ago, pcakes122 said: I shared the facts of my story. I believe people are going to tell themselves anything they want to convince themselves that cruising is safe. I think the key message from my story is that I was one of the people who truly believed it was going to be fine to cruise. My cruise left on March 8th and I can't tell you how many of my friends and family told me that I was completely out of my mind to even consider cruising with everything that had been shared on the news. I thought that they were all being overdramatic and that with diligent handwashing and hygiene and being careful where I went on the ship that I would be just fine. Didn't work out that way. Some people will have to learn that lesson the hard way just like I did. I hear you ., but it is possible you contracted it before, if you saw symptoms that quickly. I dont think anyone is saying it is safe as of today, april. but taking precauious and in a few months ,things can be different as the virus dies down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted April 15, 2020 #24 Share Posted April 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, seaman11 said: I hear you ., but it is possible you contracted it before, if you saw symptoms that quickly. I dont think anyone is saying it is safe as of today, april. but taking precauious and in a few months ,things can be different as the virus dies Nobody knows anything about the virus for sure, but I think you're confused about my symptom timeline. My first symptom was fatigue - ONLY fatigue. I felt very tired, but I chalked it up to all of the activity (as I mentioned, in my daily life I am disabled and housebound so I don't do any real physical activity - so just packing and driving myself to the pier is a HUGE deal for me.) I did not experience ANY respiratory symptoms until the day before disembarking, which was a full six days after the cruise started. I never developed a fever and still don't have one. That initial fatigue still could have just been from overactivity. Bottom line, I think it's even scarier to think that I could have gotten Covid-19 being housebound with extremely limited physical contact, and then boarded a ship WITH the disease completely undetected. You paint a very frightening picture that should make people even more hesitant to cruise. You are right. No one has any way of knowing who has it, and you can catch it from somebody who is completely asymptomatic. It's great to be optimistic, but I really hope that works out for you better than it did for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted April 15, 2020 #25 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, pcakes122 said: Nobody knows anything about the virus for sure, but I think you're confused about my symptom timeline. My first symptom was fatigue - ONLY fatigue. I felt very tired, but I chalked it up to all of the activity (as I mentioned, in my daily life I am disabled and housebound so I don't do any real physical activity - so just packing and driving myself to the pier is a HUGE deal for me.) I did not experience ANY respiratory symptoms until the day before disembarking, which was a full six days after the cruise started. I never developed a fever and still don't have one. That initial fatigue still could have just been from overactivity. Bottom line, I think it's even scarier to think that I could have gotten Covid-19 being housebound with extremely limited physical contact, and then boarded a ship WITH the disease completely undetected. You paint a very frightening picture that should make people even more hesitant to cruise. You are right. No one has any way of knowing who has it, and you can catch it from somebody who is completely asymptomatic. It's great to be optimistic, but I really hope that works out for you better than it did for me. well we dont know correct, it may have been onboard but then we would be hearing of so many other cases off that ship. i think while we should be cautious, we should not spread fear mongering, and vilify cruises. im also hearing many a recovering or show few symptoms at all. in the county i live in va , there are a few hundred cases and 0 deaths so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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