Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 #1 Share Posted August 10, 2020 https://www.rclinvestor.com/press-releases/release/?id=1488 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted August 10, 2020 #2 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Kindly give us the gist of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted August 10, 2020 #3 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, drsel said: Kindly give us the gist of it Net loss of 1.6 billion for the second quarter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, drsel said: Kindly give us the gist of it Bottom line: Adjusted Net Loss of $(1.3) billion or $(6.13) per share. RCL stock is down slightly. There is an earnings call at 10am today to go over all the info. Here's the link: https://www.rclinvestor.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #5 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Stock price going up now so loss looks like it was already factored in. Not sure what the projection was. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaveWeMetYet Posted August 10, 2020 #6 Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: Stock price going up now so loss looks like it was already factored in. Not sure what the projection was. Anyone know? Royal Caribbean posted a loss of $1.6 billion, or $7.83 a share, in the quarter, swinging from a profit of $472.8 million, or $2.25 a share, in the year-earlier quarter. Consensus called for an adjusted loss of $4.82 a share in the latest quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #7 Share Posted August 10, 2020 RCL stock price up 10% just now. Earnings loss doesn't seem to have affected it for now. Earnings call in session now -- explanations look positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc1027 Posted August 10, 2020 #8 Share Posted August 10, 2020 the company said it had $1.8 billion of customer deposits, and that 48% of those who had their trips cancelled requested their cash back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #9 Share Posted August 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, jwc1027 said: the company said it had $1.8 billion of customer deposits, and that 48% of those who had their trips cancelled requested their cash back. It also has 1.6B of debt to be repaid this year. As time goes on and more deposits are refunded plus this debt payback plus Monthly cash burn of over 250m, time is limited. Bankruptcy by June 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #10 Share Posted August 10, 2020 They have revenues of $175.6m. From what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted August 10, 2020 #11 Share Posted August 10, 2020 It also has 1.6B of debt to be repaid this year. As time goes on and more deposits are refunded plus this debt payback plus Monthly cash burn of over 250m, time is limited. Bankruptcy by June 2021.So, for those who would like to cruise on Royal Caribbean, do we have to do it before June 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #12 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Passenger ticket revenues $ 107,022,000 Onboard and other revenues 68,583,000 Total revenue 175,605,000 Not sure what the onboard or other revenue of 68.5K for Q2 could be? Selling of some assets perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted August 10, 2020 #13 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Guess people are happy to lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #14 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, livingonthebeach said: Passenger ticket revenues $ 107,022,000 Onboard and other revenues 68,583,000 Total revenue 175,605,000 Not sure what the onboard or other revenue of 68.5K for Q2 could be? Selling of some assets perhaps? Passenger ticket revenues of 107m is not the disposition of assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #15 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, drsel said: 13 minutes ago, MakingUpForLostTime said: It also has 1.6B of debt to be repaid this year. As time goes on and more deposits are refunded plus this debt payback plus Monthly cash burn of over 250m, time is limited. Bankruptcy by June 2021. So, for those who would like to cruise on Royal Caribbean, do we have to do it before June 2021? If Covid permits. Up to the CDC for sailings out of US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted August 10, 2020 #16 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, livingonthebeach said: Passenger ticket revenues $ 107,022,000 Onboard and other revenues 68,583,000 Total revenue 175,605,000 Not sure what the onboard or other revenue of 68.5K for Q2 could be? Selling of some assets perhaps? People buying drink packages, excursions and so on online in advance maybe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #17 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, drsel said: 15 minutes ago, MakingUpForLostTime said: It also has 1.6B of debt to be repaid this year. As time goes on and more deposits are refunded plus this debt payback plus Monthly cash burn of over 250m, time is limited. Bankruptcy by June 2021. So, for those who would like to cruise on Royal Caribbean, do we have to do it before June 2021? They can decide their level of risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted August 10, 2020 #18 Share Posted August 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, MakingUpForLostTime said: They have revenues of $175.6m. From what? If I remember correctly there were some deferred earnings from Silversea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville2Cabo Posted August 10, 2020 #19 Share Posted August 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, MakingUpForLostTime said: It also has 1.6B of debt to be repaid this year. As time goes on and more deposits are refunded plus this debt payback plus Monthly cash burn of over 250m, time is limited. Bankruptcy by June 2021. The $1.6B is thru the end of 2021, not 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #20 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, MakingUpForLostTime said: Passenger ticket revenues of 107m is not the disposition of assets. Of course not - never said it was. I was referring to the 68.5M in other revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted August 10, 2020 Author #21 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The_Big_M said: People buying drink packages, excursions and so on online in advance maybe. Yes, could be part of it. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #22 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The_Big_M said: People buying drink packages, excursions and so on online in advance maybe. That would be prepaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #23 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, MakingUpForLostTime said: That would be prepaid. GAAP would not allow recognition of prepaid as revenues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakingUpForLostTime Posted August 10, 2020 #24 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: Of course not - never said it was. I was referring to the 68.5M in other revenue. Yes thanks. It could be the scraping of the Ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc1027 Posted August 10, 2020 #25 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Richard Fain live on CNBC and when asked when cruising will return he said with COVID nothing is certain. Ok...guess we got that nailed down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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