Rare John&LaLa Posted September 29, 2020 #76 Share Posted September 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Merion_Mom said: Yup. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-a-small-wedding-in-maine-became-a-deadly-covid-19-superspreader Didn't this occur around the same time as Sturgis Rally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted September 29, 2020 #77 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, flyguyjake said: If you haven't had a chance, watch the 2011 movie Contagion eerily similar to Covid Fantastic film! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 29, 2020 #78 Share Posted September 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said: That’s the theory.😉 I sometimes wonder though if it was man made VS a natural occurrence. It seems so strong, and has not weakened since it’s known life expectancy from last fall to today. I’m not a conspiracy theorist but it does make me wonder. This makes me think of the gypsy moth. Someone bred a new one, a few got loose, and now they are a scourge. I presume you also have them in your neck of the woods. They are destroying one of my trees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted September 29, 2020 #79 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Didn't this occur around the same time as Sturgis Rally “ 266,000 cases w/ an economic price tag of $12.5 billion ” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted September 29, 2020 #80 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pratique said: This makes me think of the gypsy moth. Someone bred a new one, a few got loose, and now they are a scourge. I presume you also have them in your neck of the woods. They are destroying one of my trees. Mainly needle trees in my yard, but they are here and in full force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 29, 2020 #81 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheMastodon said: “ 266,000 cases w/ an economic price tag of $12.5 billion ” Yeah I don't think so lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 29, 2020 #82 Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheMastodon said: “ 266,000 cases w/ an economic price tag of $12.5 billion ” That is the best example of #fakenews ever😉🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 29, 2020 #83 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: That is the best example of #fakenews ever😉🤣🤣 Theoretical worst case scenario. But it's not zero either. Quote The NH Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) is notifying residents about potential exposures related to the Sturgis, SD, Motorcycle Rally held August 7-16. There have been more than 100 confirmed cases associated with the Sturgis event, including six New Hampshire residents. https://www.nh.gov/covid19/resources-guidance/special-notices.htm Edited September 29, 2020 by Pratique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 29, 2020 #84 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pratique said: Theoretical worst case scenario. But it's not zero either. https://www.nh.gov/covid19/resources-guidance/special-notices.htm I saw 200+ direct No one knows how many got it from secondary exposures, but no way 250,000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguyjake Posted September 29, 2020 #85 Share Posted September 29, 2020 53 minutes ago, Pratique said: gypsy moth YES! And Murder Hornets and now in Texas Brain eating Amoebas in the water! Come on 2020!!! 😭😷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted September 29, 2020 #86 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Merion_Mom said: Yup. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-a-small-wedding-in-maine-became-a-deadly-covid-19-superspreader This is the truly scary scenario we will all want to avoid and which the scoffers and deniers are only encouraging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 29, 2020 #87 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Mapleleafforever said: And oh so fast it spread......and to think....that one person getting infected may have ended the existence of Princess Cruises. To be fair to Princess, they were not in the driver seat after the fact. Most of the spreading happened while the ship was quarantined under the control of the port/government. Perhaps the quarantine itself was deeply flawed, not the cruiseship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 29, 2020 #88 Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, mpk said: To be fair to Princess, they were not in the driver seat after the fact. Most of the spreading happened while the ship was quarantined under the control of the port/government. Perhaps the quarantine itself was deeply flawed, not the cruiseship. But the cruise ship staff controlled the quarantine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted September 29, 2020 #89 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Pratique said: Well as long as we're having fun it's all good. Honestly working from home like a hermit has been great, no commute, no gas, no tolls, no traffic, even my auto insurance gave me a partial refund. There has to be an upside. Same here, Saved a fortune last 6 months staying home. No movies, eating out, shopping or Cruises/Airfare. Even sold my second car. Haven't had this much $$$$$ on hand in years 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted September 29, 2020 #90 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Didn't this occur around the same time as Sturgis Rally About a week apart. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/09/27/coronavirus-hospitalizations-have-more-than-tripled-in-south-dakota-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally/#2e9e470d7f7e 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrednole Posted September 29, 2020 #91 Share Posted September 29, 2020 14 hours ago, ONECRUISER said: Understand joking but know some people always dream in Color and actually picture numbers in Color, always the same match. I know this very well. There is an autistic genius somewhere (England maybe) that saw all numbers in colors. They were able to recite Pi to some odd 100,000 decimal places. But yes, it was 100% sarcasm and joking to a question that has no data or facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 29, 2020 #92 Share Posted September 29, 2020 20 hours ago, locksley10 said: How many people left the U.S. on a 7 day or less cruise and contracted covid on the cruise ships pre shutdown? How many Died? Data source please. Not sure how this data would affect the decision to restart cruises, but here goes. The no sail order was issued March 14. As of Feb 23, public health agencies had detected 14 cases of covid (1 in 23.4 million). (Source, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6922e1.htm) So, the likelihood of any of those 14 people getting on a cruise before the shutdown is pretty remote. How many cases do we have in the US today? 7.1 million (one in 46 people). So, how does the fact that no one contracted covid on a cruise ship prior to the shutdown have any bearing on today? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 29, 2020 #93 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Not sure how this data would affect the decision to restart cruises, but here goes. The no sail order was issued March 14. As of Feb 23, public health agencies had detected 14 cases of covid (1 in 23.4 million). (Source, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6922e1.htm) So, the likelihood of any of those 14 people getting on a cruise before the shutdown is pretty remote. How many cases do we have in the US today? 7.1 million (one in 46 people). So, how does the fact that no one contracted covid on a cruise ship prior to the shutdown have any bearing on today? I agree with your conclusion but I think the comparison (if any) should be to currently active cases not total cases. In any event things will be handled differently now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatseller Posted September 29, 2020 #94 Share Posted September 29, 2020 While accurate figures will take years to compile, the number is definitely between 7 and 330,000,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locksley10 Posted September 29, 2020 Author #95 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Not sure how this data would affect the decision to restart cruises, but here goes. The no sail order was issued March 14. As of Feb 23, public health agencies had detected 14 cases of covid (1 in 23.4 million). (Source, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6922e1.htm) So, the likelihood of any of those 14 people getting on a cruise before the shutdown is pretty remote. How many cases do we have in the US today? 7.1 million (one in 46 people). So, how does the fact that no one contracted covid on a cruise ship prior to the shutdown have any bearing on today? Do you honestly believe there was only 14 cases of covid in the U.S at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 29, 2020 #96 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, locksley10 said: Do you honestly believe there was only 14 cases of covid in the U.S at this time. How many do you believe there were? Oh, and please cite your data source. Edited September 29, 2020 by chengkp75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhouse Posted September 29, 2020 #97 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I know a relative who went on a cruise and contracted pneumonia which was blamed on their asthma, allergies, and close contact with birds. Tests came back negative but I'm not buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locksley10 Posted September 29, 2020 Author #98 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, chengkp75 said: How many do you believe there were? Oh, and please cite your data source. No data source just common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 29, 2020 #99 Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, locksley10 said: No data source just common sense Ah, so you ask for facts and data sources from others, but rely on your own suppositions. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted September 29, 2020 #100 Share Posted September 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, locksley10 said: No data source just common sense Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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