kalos Posted February 10, 2021 #4351 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: Ten years ago after Paulines stroke when I first became a carer, it was made clear to me that I would not be eligible for any carers allowance because my savings and income were too high. That to me means it was means tested. Take it you are on DLA which is no more for us . I get PIP And the Mrs Carers Allowance . Carer's Allowance does not depend on national insurance contributions and is not means-tested – in other words not based on your personal income or savings – but earnings may affect your entitlement. Carer's Allowance usually counts in full as income when calculating your entitlement for means-tested benefits. What is Carer's Allowance? - Turn2us www.turn2us.org.uk › Benefit-guides › Carer-s-Allowance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted February 10, 2021 #4352 Share Posted February 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: I think my 74 yr old SIL still receives her carers allowance for my BIL. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieC Posted February 10, 2021 #4353 Share Posted February 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: I think my 74 yr old SIL still receives her carers allowance for my BIL. I was a little simplistic in my explanation - it's available as a top-up if the recipient's state pension is under a certain amount. For most, that means it ceases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettingwarmer Posted February 10, 2021 #4354 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I thought you received the higher of the two payments. i.e. you could not receive both. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted February 10, 2021 #4355 Share Posted February 10, 2021 WHO has just approved the Oxford for all ages and variants.The EU will be on our case again,lol. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckett Posted February 10, 2021 #4356 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 hours ago, zap99 said: I would like to learn that answer. DW is 64 and in group 7. Next week is her birthday. Will she move up to group 5 or stay in 7. When you ask the GP, don't know nothing to do with us.🤔 I'd like to help with your question Zap but, at risk of sounding like your GP, I don't really know for certain. All GP practice patients' medical records are computerised, and each patient’s medical history automatically allocates them a grouping so your DW, by that logic, should automatically move into Group 5 when her age changes. I'm not in the surgery tomorrow but when I go back on Friday I will call our computer supplier and ask them for you. As each system updates overnight I think she will change groups overnight on her birthday but I don't want to give you the wrong information so let me get back to you ASAP. Jane.x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted February 10, 2021 #4357 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Beckett said: I'd like to help with your question Zap but, at risk of sounding like your GP, I don't really know for certain. All GP practice patients' medical records are computerised, and each patient’s medical history automatically allocates them a grouping so your DW, by that logic, should automatically move into Group 5 when her age changes. I'm not in the surgery tomorrow but when I go back on Friday I will call our computer supplier and ask them for you. As each system updates overnight I think she will change groups overnight on her birthday but I don't want to give you the wrong information so let me get back to you ASAP. Jane.x Jane. Thanks ever so much for taking the time to try and answer my query. Very helpful and kind of you. Good luck and thanks again😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted February 10, 2021 #4358 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, kalos said: Take it you are on DLA which is no more for us . I get PIP And the Mrs Carers Allowance . Carer's Allowance does not depend on national insurance contributions and is not means-tested – in other words not based on your personal income or savings – but earnings may affect your entitlement. Carer's Allowance usually counts in full as income when calculating your entitlement for means-tested benefits. What is Carer's Allowance? - Turn2us www.turn2us.org.uk › Benefit-guides › Carer-s-Allowance It would be nice if Pauline was on DLA, then we could have a free car every 3 years. Unfortunately she was over 65 at the time of the stroke, so her benefit is called Attendance Allowance which is different to carers allowance, and there is no mobility element involved. As regards whether taking your income into account when assessing whether you have any entitlement to a benefit, is means testing or not, I know what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted February 10, 2021 #4359 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, terrierjohn said: Since carers allowance is means tested there will not be many DB pensioners receiving that allowance and, although I definitely am my wife's sole carer, I don't ever remember being registered. Hi John. Just as a point of interest, but occupational pension income, regardless of whether DB or DC, does not count in terms of eligibility for Carers Allowance. They only count ‘earned income’ from employment or self employment. Income received from Occupational or Private pensions is excluded. You cannot claim Carers Allowance when in receipt of state pension of equal or greater value than the Carers Allowance, due to the ‘overlapping benefits’ rule. In my case, I couldn’t claim Carers Allowance when working, but as soon as I retired (at age 54) I could, even though I have a large private pension (DC from 55-60 and DB plus DC from 60 onwards). It will stop when I draw my state pension from age 67, but that will still give me 13 years of the allowance. It is taxable, unlike some other benefits. As for being a registered carer, it’s worth doing. I didn’t know such a thing existed until I was approached in the waiting area at my GP’s and asked if I was a carer. I now have a card in my wallet that, should I be knocked down by a bus, shows that my wife is dependent on my care, but also gives discounts at various places. I also have access to the local Carers Support Centre, which I don’t use but has been useful in that every few years they send me a simple form to fill in (Carers Assessment) and upon completion my local authority sends me a few hundred quid to give me a break from caring. Finally, by being registered I get free flu jabs each year (now available to all over 50’s so not a benefit now) and will be able to get my Covid jab in group 6 rather than waiting until my age group 8. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Windsurfboy Posted February 10, 2021 #4360 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I was 70 on Saturday, so when my wife got a text last week I got nothing as I was 69 last week, on Tuesday I got a phone call from GP offering me a vaccination, my GP hasn't started on under 70s yet. So it looks like computer systems tell GPs who is 70 on the day that the program is run asking who is of a certain age that day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted February 10, 2021 #4361 Share Posted February 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: It would be nice if Pauline was on DLA, then we could have a free car every 3 years. Unfortunately she was over 65 at the time of the stroke, so her benefit is called Attendance Allowance which is different to carers allowance, and there is no mobility element involved. As regards whether taking your income into account when assessing whether you have any entitlement to a benefit, is means testing or not, I know what I think. Did not realise Pauline was over 65 John at the time ,as you say different rules re Attendance Allowance. Thought for a moment you may have been missing out but I can now see where your coming from Sadly no prize or free car for you this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted February 10, 2021 #4362 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, kalos said: John, Carers allowance is not means tested Disability is now called Pip payments and if you qualify a carer can claim an allowance regardless of them working or not or their savings but it can be taxable dependant of what you earn . PS if you are paid for looking after your wife you are registered. Hi Kalos. Further to my reply to John (above), you cannot claim Carers Allowance if you are working and earn more than £128 a week so, in reality, it is means tested. My wife has been in receipt of DLA / PIP for some years, but I could only claim Carers Allowance once I stopped working and it will cease when I commence my state pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted February 10, 2021 #4363 Share Posted February 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: It would be nice if Pauline was on DLA, then we could have a free car every 3 years. Me again John! You are obviously referring to the Motability scheme. Again, just to clarify, there is no free car. You have to surrender around £10k in tax free benefits over every 3 years of the lease plus, if you want a decent car, pay an ‘advance payment’ of up to £4k on top of that. So it’s far from free. It’s a shame that Pauline missed out on eligibility due to age, but it’s interesting that two out of every three people who are eligible to join the Motability scheme choose not to. If it was ‘free’ I’m sure that the take up would be 100%! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted February 10, 2021 #4364 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Selbourne said: Hi Kalos. Further to my reply to John (above), you cannot claim Carers Allowance if you are working and earn more than £128 a week so, in reality, it is means tested. My wife has been in receipt of DLA / PIP for some years, but I could only claim Carers Allowance once I stopped working and it will cease when I commence my state pension. Correct Selbourne my wife company cut her hours so she did not exceed this but since has gave up to look after me full time . Just read your post above and your advice to John to see if he could make himself registered as a carer seems good to me .I am still pretty new to this PIP & carers and still learning . Edited February 10, 2021 by kalos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettingwarmer Posted February 10, 2021 #4365 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Thanks to everybody’s contribution to Carers Allowance. A lot of people are unaware of the details and do not think they are entitled. It is always worth investigating and applying. The same for Attendance Allowance. Edited February 10, 2021 by Gettingwarmer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted February 10, 2021 #4366 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Adawn47 said: It seems to vary in different areas. Barnsley are ready now to do the 65-70's but there is a hold up with the vaccine deliveries. Avril Just had the vaccine hub ring me and told me where I was going for my jab on Friday a mile away has got a delivery issue and cannot do it there but can do it at another medical centre a ten minute drive in the opposite direction -same day -same time No Probs . Edited February 10, 2021 by kalos 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted February 10, 2021 #4367 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, kalos said: Just had the vaccine hub ring me and told me where I was going for my jab on Friday a mile away has got a delivery issue and cannot do it there but can do it at another medical centre a ten minute drive in the opposite direction -same day -same time No Probs . You are lucky and I’m so glad you are. There are a lot of complaints up here as people are having to do 90 minute round trips by car (or several forms of public transport) to get to vaccination centres. There was a question about it as FMQs today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann141 Posted February 10, 2021 #4368 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Beckett said: I'd like to help with your question Zap but, at risk of sounding like your GP, I don't really know for certain. All GP practice patients' medical records are computerised, and each patient’s medical history automatically allocates them a grouping so your DW, by that logic, should automatically move into Group 5 when her age changes. I'm not in the surgery tomorrow but when I go back on Friday I will call our computer supplier and ask them for you. As each system updates overnight I think she will change groups overnight on her birthday but I don't want to give you the wrong information so let me get back to you ASAP. Jane.x That would be great for my twin sister to know too.We both turn 65 at the beginning of march and although I have had my jab because I am in the shielded group, my twin is worried she might get missed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 10, 2021 #4369 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, terrierjohn said: Ten years ago after Paulines stroke when I first became a carer, it was made clear to me that I would not be eligible for any carers allowance because my savings and income were too high. That to me means it was means tested. Carers allowance is not based on savings but is means tested because if you have more than £128 earnings each week which would include your pension you would not qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettingwarmer Posted February 10, 2021 #4370 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Carers allowance is not based on savings but is means tested because if you have more than £128 earnings each week which would include your pension you would not qualify. Confused now. That’s not what Selbourne said Post 4360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted February 10, 2021 #4371 Share Posted February 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, kalos said: .I am still pretty new to this PIP & carers and still learning . It’s a minefield Kalos and very few people understand it, so you are far from alone. Other than Family Allowance, which we lost when it became means tested, neither my wife nor I had claimed a penny in benefits throughout our entire lives. However, when my wife’s disability started to really impact on her life and her ability to work, I did a lot of research and found that whilst most things were unavailable to her (due to my income) some things were. Initially it was DLA, subsequently replaced by PIP. As you will know, the transition to PIP has been a major challenge for many. Undoubtedly there was abuse with the old system and it needed overhauling, but the PIP application system is unbelievably complicated and will no doubt put many off claiming for it or, at best, cause them to end up with a poor result. I spent every evening for a week preparing my wife’s PIP application, having done a lot of research, and it paid off. She was initially given a 3 year award, to be reviewed after around 2 and a half years, which she was relieved with. However, we asked for a Mandatory Reconsideration on the grounds that her condition could only be worse after that time and that it seemed unreasonable to have to go through all of that hassle again so soon. They changed it to an indefinite award with the earliest review (if at all) in 10 years time. Perseverance pays. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckett Posted February 10, 2021 #4372 Share Posted February 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, kalos said: Just had the vaccine hub ring me and told me where I was going for my jab on Friday a mile away has got a delivery issue and cannot do it there but can do it at another medical centre a ten minute drive in the opposite direction -same day -same time No Probs . Good news Kalos. I'm so glad they've fitted you in same day and time. Hope it goes well - let us know. J.x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted February 10, 2021 #4373 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Carers allowance is not based on savings but is means tested because if you have more than £128 earnings each week which would include your pension you would not qualify. As I have said Graham, the £128 a week only applies to earnings from employment, not pensions. It stops anyway when you reach state pension age (if your pension is over £67.25 a week, which most people’s will be) but private and occupational pensions do not count as ‘earned income’. So you can have a very large private pension and still claim Carers allowance, until your state pension starts. Edited February 10, 2021 by Selbourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 10, 2021 #4374 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gettingwarmer said: Confused now. That’s not what Selbourne said Post 4360 Any earned income over £128 a week bars you from claiming carers allowance. This includes pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare P&O SUE Posted February 10, 2021 #4375 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Talking of famous people mucking in, the comedian Jason Manford has been driving people to vaccines. Last year he drove for Asda deliveries too! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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