Aussie Jeep Posted February 9, 2021 #1 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Have booked a cruise on Ovation out of Brisbane Australia in November Does anyone know if Royal are sailing with full occupancy or because of COVID are they sailing at 50% capacity? If anyone know I would love to hear Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted February 9, 2021 #2 Share Posted February 9, 2021 The UK head guy Ben said they would sail at reduced capacity last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 9, 2021 #3 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Aussie Jeep said: Have booked a cruise on Ovation out of Brisbane Australia in November Does anyone know if Royal are sailing with full occupancy or because of COVID are they sailing at 50% capacity? If anyone know I would love to hear Thanks That would be Quantum not Ovation? I believe they are sailing full capacity next season . If our government allows it ,They might start trials in May and ramp up for next season. RCG Australia had a media thingo that they plan to start in May. We should find out in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 9, 2021 #4 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Aussie Jeep said: Does anyone know if Royal are sailing with full occupancy or because of COVID are they sailing at 50% capacity? RCI probably doesn't even know and it may be a per sailing decision on how many passengers to allow. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise a holic Posted February 9, 2021 #5 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Currently, in Australia you must quarantine for two weeks in a hotel before you are allowed to roam around the city- So if they do allow sailing- I would assume you would have to arrive at least two weeks prior to the cruise and quarantine. Of course you will be tested multiple times to be sure you are covid free. This can change in November- so who knows. I assume the ships will not sail at 100% capacity for both guests and staff- perhaps all inside cabins will not be sold or cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KmomChicago Posted February 9, 2021 #6 Share Posted February 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, Biker19 said: RCI probably doesn't even know and it may be a per sailing decision on how many passengers to allow. No doubt accurate, so the next question is, are they booking sailings to capacity (assuming there is demand to do so anyway, and who knows about that)? If so, who gets bumped, when and how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 9, 2021 #7 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KmomChicago said: No doubt accurate, so the next question is, are they booking sailings to capacity (assuming there is demand to do so anyway, and who knows about that)? If so, who gets bumped, when and how? This has been discussed in various threads since about July when capacity controls were in place on ships that are sailing. RCI knows the capacity to which ships are filled, but we don't. We can get an idea by what's available, but that is not the whole picture. Bumping, if it happens, will likely be done as in the past, by incentives. Edited February 9, 2021 by Biker19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted February 9, 2021 #8 Share Posted February 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, KmomChicago said: No doubt accurate, so the next question is, are they booking sailings to capacity (assuming there is demand to do so anyway, and who knows about that)? If so, who gets bumped, when and how? Again, UK Ben confirmed at no one would be bumped. It’s easy for them to control as I doubt very much if any ship is sold out, and they don’t release all cabin inventory for sale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted February 9, 2021 #9 Share Posted February 9, 2021 All questions being asked on all the cruise lines! But no answers. The CDC did not dictate a rule for occupancy, only that cruise lines must implement social distancing for all activities from checkin to disembarkation. And that strongly suggests reduced capacities. As for "bumping", it seems obvious there would be a combination of when reservations were made and loyalty status and spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 9, 2021 #10 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, PelicanBill said: As for "bumping", it seems obvious there would be a combination of when reservations were made and loyalty status and spend. In the very few previous examples of bumping, I don't believe status, date of booking or spending amount had anything to do with bumping. Edited February 9, 2021 by Biker19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted February 9, 2021 #11 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Biker19 said: In the very few previous examples of bumping, I don't believe status, date of booking or spending amount had anything to do with bumping. Possibly true in the very few cases before. If they have to bump hundreds, though, do you really thing they will simply use last booked/paid as the criteria? I would expect them to first bump based on the cabin blocks set aside for quarantine purposes (insides likely.) I would not expect any suites to be bumped. After that, perhaps by date but it's my bet high loyalty status passengers won't be bumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 9, 2021 #12 Share Posted February 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, PelicanBill said: If they have to bump hundreds, though, do you really thing they will simply use last booked/paid as the criteria? No, I think they will still use incentives.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted February 9, 2021 #13 Share Posted February 9, 2021 It depends how long the CDC keeps them from sailing. Will the CDC even allow them to sail while community numbers are elevated? If the answer is no, then there will be less need to reduce capacity if they will only be allowed to sail once the risk is very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted February 9, 2021 #14 Share Posted February 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, twangster said: It depends how long the CDC keeps them from sailing. Will the CDC even allow them to sail while community numbers are elevated? If the answer is no, then there will be less need to reduce capacity if they will only be allowed to sail once the risk is very low. I agree. It feels more like they want to wait it out for vaccines to be effective. A waiting game for sure. Cash burn vs. Herd Immunity. Will they be successful requiring vaccinations? Even while children can't even be vaccinated? Will there be lots of lawsuits? The issues will persist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted February 9, 2021 #15 Share Posted February 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, PelicanBill said: I agree. It feels more like they want to wait it out for vaccines to be effective. A waiting game for sure. Cash burn vs. Herd Immunity. Will they be successful requiring vaccinations? Even while children can't even be vaccinated? Will there be lots of lawsuits? The issues will persist. Lawsuits about what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 9, 2021 #16 Share Posted February 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: Lawsuits about what? Requiring an unapproved vaccine that isn't widely available yet for the majority of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted February 9, 2021 #17 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: Lawsuits about what? Yes - what @smokeybandit said and people who don't want to get the vaccine challenging all businesses that try to require a vaccine. I expect we'll see a bunch of this and I expect the cruise lines to be targeted if they require the vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted February 9, 2021 #18 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: Requiring an unapproved vaccine that isn't widely available yet for the majority of the country. 46 minutes ago, PelicanBill said: Yes - what @smokeybandit said and people who don't want to get the vaccine challenging all businesses that try to require a vaccine. I expect we'll see a bunch of this and I expect the cruise lines to be targeted if they require the vaccine. Requiring a vaccine for a completely voluntary leisure activity would easily be held up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 9, 2021 #19 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, not-enough-cruising said: Requiring a vaccine for a completely voluntary leisure activity would easily be held up. If vaccine were fully approved and widely available, maybe. Otherwise a good lawyer could attack that policy from a million different directions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted February 9, 2021 #20 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: If vaccine were fully approved and widely available, maybe. Otherwise a good lawyer could attack that policy from a million different directions BUT it is still a PRIVATE entity, making a determination for their PRIVATE property. Attack all you want, but such a requirement, if enacted, would be upheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 9, 2021 #21 Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: BUT it is still a PRIVATE entity, making a determination for their PRIVATE property. Attack all you want, but such a requirement, if enacted, would be upheld. Private companies can and do lose lawsuits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted February 9, 2021 #22 Share Posted February 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Private companies can and do lose lawsuits. Agreed, I guess we will see (or not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted February 9, 2021 #23 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'm not sure how denying boarding to someone without a vaccine is fundamentally different than being able to deny boarding to guests under 6 month or 12 months of age if there are 3 or more sea days in a row. Both would be done with the safety of the guest first and foremost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted February 9, 2021 #24 Share Posted February 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: I'm not sure how denying boarding to someone without a vaccine is fundamentally different than being able to deny boarding to guests under 6 month or 12 months of age if there are 3 or more sea days in a row. Both would be done with the safety of the guest first and foremost. Agreed; and adding to that, what court would say a private entity couldn’t mandate a safety measure that your own federal government has declared a paramount aspect in mitigating a global pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vera/Lee Posted February 9, 2021 #25 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: If vaccine were fully approved and widely available, maybe. Otherwise a good lawyer could attack that policy from a million different directions Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC yesterday that he expects the Covid vaccine to be widely available in the U.S. by April. He estimated that roughly 100 million Americans really want to receive the vaccine. He said "I think we're going to run out of demand sooner than we think". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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