rorndorff Posted February 12, 2022 #126 Share Posted February 12, 2022 thank you! I had heard propulsion issue resolution, but wasn't sure if any of the guest experience was on tap. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktembwr Posted February 12, 2022 #127 Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 8/29/2021 at 7:19 AM, chengkp75 said: Yes, Polaris went aground, and no a drydock survey would not have prevented this. However, many ships run aground each year, but they don't break in two. Yes, the other ships were inspected by class societies, and still failed. But, just like anything in life, nothing is perfect, you don't score 100% all the time, so incidents like this happen. But, by frequent inspection, the number of these incidents is minimized. Also, you can't inspect every item (like every single inch of weld on a ship's hull) every time, so you use science and statistics to determine the most critical spots and check those every time, and get a representative sample of other areas. I knew who you meant. The ISM is designed to prevent people from making those bad decisions, and without using a "secret shopper" (hard to do with a crew of 20), a systemic history of making those bad decisions will be shown in ISM documentation. We live with ISM every minute of every working day. As for Viking Sky. You will note that the Captain received no punishment for the incident, nor condemnation from the Norwegian Maritime Agency. Why? Because he followed the ISM, as it was written at the time. Schettino, on the other hand, did not follow ISM, and was therefore held responsible. Was the Viking ISM modified due to the Sky incident, of course it was, both with regards to proper engine maintenance and heavy weather procedures. That is what the ISM is all about, it does not place blame for incidents, it uses them to study how to prevent them from happening again. Blame never improves the system, it just removes the cause of the immediate problem. If your company's "ISM" places sanctions, it is not a real ISM type of system. If I follow all of the procedures set out by the company, as approved by the third party auditor (class), as meeting the requirements of the IMO convention, and things still go wrong, they will not look to fire me, they will ask my help in determining new policies and procedures to prevent it from happening again. If I am facing sanctions for my actions, I may not be as forthcoming in giving the exact details of how and why the incident happened, I'd be more interested in covering it up. And, as I've noted above, the class societies look at way more, way more often than merely a twice in 5 year drydock rule. They look at the ship top to bottom, and look at the crew (I believe I stated this about various conventions that have nothing to do with ship construction), but the drydocking requirement is needed to ensure the "foundation of the building" (the hull under water) is safe to support everything else. Thank you for all your information! VERY interresting and educational reading. Just a question if you know of other class society requirements beyond hull, propulsion requirements. Structural integrety, operational systems ( way too many I a layman can even compute). Or are these monitored by other groups. Im sure and proud of a man like yourself that knows his trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckiestmanonearth Posted February 13, 2022 #128 Share Posted February 13, 2022 We just sailed on CP last month and I can assure you that there are no upgrades needed on the inside as she’s a beautiful ship and I wouldn’t do a thing to it on the inside 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted February 13, 2022 #129 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I really hope they get the soft serve and the scoop ice cream stocked with something that tastes like ice cream. Whatever Carnival uses will be a great choice. There self made is disgusting. Gooey sugar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U4icmusic Posted April 5, 2022 #130 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 9:17 PM, rorndorff said: thank you! I had heard propulsion issue resolution, but wasn't sure if any of the guest experience was on tap. Thanks again! The Princess rep I spoke to yesterday said they were also doing work inside the cabins and making more cabins "connecting" cabins for families. I guess we will find out in about a month what has been done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted April 5, 2022 #131 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Thanks for all of this discussion. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted April 5, 2022 #132 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Looks like the CP is heading towards Oregon. Caribbean Princess Itinerary, Current Position, Ship Review | CruiseMapper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdke Posted April 5, 2022 #133 Share Posted April 5, 2022 What is being done on the Caribbean Princess in dry dock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cltnccruisers Posted April 5, 2022 #134 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, swdke said: What is being done on the Caribbean Princess in dry dock. Propulsion systems is one common answer we got on board in early March. Also some cosmetics - carpeting here and there - and maybe some connecting doors between cabins. Nothing in need of cosmetic work jumped out at us. Edited April 5, 2022 by cltnccruisers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted April 5, 2022 #135 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 9:07 PM, rick160158 said: I had read somewhere that the dry dock was for routine engine and mechanical maintenance. Nothing to do with inside the ship. You are 100% correct. In December I became friends with my floor supervisor and my cabin attendant on Dolphin CC. I still keep in touch with them weekly. One has gone back to India the floor supervisor is still on the ship. I sent him a What's App our usual way to communicate and asked him. He confirmed to me yesterday that what you say is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJustWantToGo36 Posted April 5, 2022 #136 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, swdke said: What is being done on the Caribbean Princess in dry dock. FIX THE CLOCKS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MISTER 67 Posted April 5, 2022 #137 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, IJustWantToGo36 said: FIX THE CLOCKS They also should replace some carpeting, some cabins still have the original carpeting from 2004 when the Caribbean Princess first entered service. Edited April 5, 2022 by MISTER 67 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJustWantToGo36 Posted April 5, 2022 #138 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, MISTER 67 said: They also should replace some carpeting, some cabins still have the original carpeting from 2004 when the Caribbean Princess first entered service. was on CD in Feb asked FC person Fix clocks was real- also interior upgrades, no structural work (removing fusion lounge is our biggie we are safe till next time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsamole Posted April 16, 2022 #139 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Photo of Caribbean Princess in dry dock at Vigor Shipyard in Portland, Oregon from KATU TV an ABC affiliate. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted April 17, 2022 #140 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Get her cleaned up and ship shape folks! On her in May. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cltnccruisers Posted April 17, 2022 #141 Share Posted April 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, GonzoWCS said: Get her cleaned up and ship shape folks! On her in May. Cheers Don't mess it up. We're on in June. 🙃 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted April 22, 2022 #142 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/17/2022 at 4:07 PM, cltnccruisers said: Don't mess it up. We're on in June. 🙃 Will pick up after ourselves Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner2013 Posted April 22, 2022 #143 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Has anybody been able to find out what they have been doing to spruce her up? I believe they were working on the engines? (correct me if i'm wrong) but i'm curious what else they have addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted April 22, 2022 #144 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, runner2013 said: Has anybody been able to find out what they have been doing to spruce her up? I believe they were working on the engines? (correct me if i'm wrong) but i'm curious what else they have addressed. This was not a regularly scheduled drydock. It was announced rather close-in and is primarily to fix engine issues and address some plumbing issues as well. Any other work being done is merely a by-product of the downtime. Do not expect any new furnishings, revamping of venues etc. Some carpet/upholstery may get replaced based on normal maintenance cycles/budget and some furniture surfaces may get refinished as needed, but nothing earth shattering or to the point where we would be "Wow look how different she is!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vakamalua Posted April 22, 2022 #145 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/17/2022 at 5:07 PM, cltnccruisers said: Don't mess it up. We're on in June. 🙃 6 hours ago, GonzoWCS said: Will pick up after ourselves Cheers Thanks, on in August...hope the July folks keep it clean! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that Posted April 22, 2022 #146 Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 hours ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said: This was not a regularly scheduled drydock. It was announced rather close-in and is primarily to fix engine issues and address some plumbing issues as well. Any other work being done is merely a by-product of the downtime. Do not expect any new furnishings, revamping of venues etc. Some carpet/upholstery may get replaced based on normal maintenance cycles/budget and some furniture surfaces may get refinished as needed, but nothing earth shattering or to the point where we would be "Wow look how different she is!". hmmmm This drydock was on the schedule posted #41 Posted October 5, 2021 SHIP DRYDOCK/WETDOCK SCHEDULE LOCATION MOST RECENT Caribbean Princess April 7 - 25, 2022 Portland April 13 - May 11, 2019 Coral Princess December 1 - December 15, 2021 Cadiz January 21 - January 30, 2019 Crown Princess October 2 - 19, 2022 Portland January 6 - 20, 2021 Diamond Princess January 22 - 30, 2022 Singapore January 19 - February 1, 2019 Emerald Princess October 10 - 26, 2022 Brest March 29 - April 14, 2019 Enchanted Princess March 25 - April 15, 2023 Marseille N/A Grand Princess April 25 - May 11, 2022 Portland March 5 - March 18, 2019 Island Princess August 17 - 31, 2021 Marseille November 26 - December 6, 2017 Majestic Princess September 26 - October 3, 2023 Ogden Point February 24 - March 11, 2020 Regal Princess April 16 - 30, 2022 Marseille April 17 - April 30, 2017 Royal Princess October 3 - 15, 2021 Singapore December 1 - December 7, 2018 Ruby Princess October 3 - 15, 2021 Portland September 30 - October 14, 2018 Sapphire Princess April 10 - May 1, 2023 Portland December 31 - January 17, 2021 Sky Princess April 15 - May 6, 2023 Brest N/A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted April 22, 2022 #147 Share Posted April 22, 2022 46 minutes ago, that said: hmmmm This drydock was on the schedule posted #41 Posted October 5, 2021 SHIP DRYDOCK/WETDOCK SCHEDULE LOCATION MOST RECENT Caribbean Princess April 7 - 25, 2022 Portland April 13 - May 11, 2019 Coral Princess December 1 - December 15, 2021 Cadiz January 21 - January 30, 2019 Crown Princess October 2 - 19, 2022 Portland January 6 - 20, 2021 Diamond Princess January 22 - 30, 2022 Singapore January 19 - February 1, 2019 Emerald Princess October 10 - 26, 2022 Brest March 29 - April 14, 2019 Enchanted Princess March 25 - April 15, 2023 Marseille N/A Grand Princess April 25 - May 11, 2022 Portland March 5 - March 18, 2019 Island Princess August 17 - 31, 2021 Marseille November 26 - December 6, 2017 Majestic Princess September 26 - October 3, 2023 Ogden Point February 24 - March 11, 2020 Regal Princess April 16 - 30, 2022 Marseille April 17 - April 30, 2017 Royal Princess October 3 - 15, 2021 Singapore December 1 - December 7, 2018 Ruby Princess October 3 - 15, 2021 Portland September 30 - October 14, 2018 Sapphire Princess April 10 - May 1, 2023 Portland December 31 - January 17, 2021 Sky Princess April 15 - May 6, 2023 Brest N/A Right on time Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted April 22, 2022 #148 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) Aactually it was NOT the originally scheduled date - That list was UPDATED in october 2021. There were numerous cruises cancelled as a result of the drydock announcement which was sent out in early August 2021. The cancelled cruises were announced and available for booking on April 29th 2020. Planned/routine drydocks usually leave a "gap" in the schedule when new bookings are opened for sale. This replaced her originally intended 2023 drydock and caused booked consumers to be displaced, so is in effect unplanned cancellation/drydock notice sent on 8/3/2021: https://www.princess.com/downloads/pdf/plan/impacted-and-cancelled-cruises/cancelled-cruises-caribbean-spring-2022.pdf Edited April 22, 2022 by AtlantaCruiser72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLSHS_Mom Posted April 22, 2022 #149 Share Posted April 22, 2022 The below was posted on the Roll Call for the first cruise post-drydock. It is pretty interesting. I am not sure how many of you follow TickTock captain Tim has provided a whole bunch of videos of the dry dock in Portland. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdXkfcYV/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nreeder Posted April 23, 2022 #150 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Se videos were really cool. Thanks for sharing. Norm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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